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		<title>By: dieing philosopher!</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80250</link>
		<dc:creator>dieing philosopher!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in the era which is full of technological advancements. The policy of microtargeting is actually not a new one, it has been practised from very ancient times. In India, when a circus or a musical show would arrive in any village, the people---the managers and the owners---would approach individual homes to tell them to attend the circus or a musical show. If there were decisions to be made, then two opposing parties would resort to microtargeting. When any new products, new ideas or anything new was to be publisised, then microtargeting was a very good option.

I donâ€™t know, today the community is becoming even smaller than what it was in ancient and medieval times. Sadly, the values of democracy have failed to reach to a common person at least in India, they are not aware of their political scenario. Isnâ€™t it a task of enlightened ones to approach common herd of humanities (whoâ€™re oblivious of whatâ€™s happening around them, whoâ€™re pathetically ignorant, whoâ€™re sadly apathetic) and spread the values? Afterall, when will be democracy successful in any nation? When everybody will at least know where they stand. Unless everybody participates in any process, how can we judge it s success or failures?

Of course, there are drawbacks of any technique, but then it will be a responsibility of a person whoâ€™ll resort to it, isnâ€™t it? Just because some technique is objectionable, it would not be healthy to throw it completely, would it? Moreover, Microtargetting can only persuade, it canâ€™t really force an action upon individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in the era which is full of technological advancements. The policy of microtargeting is actually not a new one, it has been practised from very ancient times. In India, when a circus or a musical show would arrive in any village, the people&#8212;the managers and the owners&#8212;would approach individual homes to tell them to attend the circus or a musical show. If there were decisions to be made, then two opposing parties would resort to microtargeting. When any new products, new ideas or anything new was to be publisised, then microtargeting was a very good option.</p>
<p>I donâ€™t know, today the community is becoming even smaller than what it was in ancient and medieval times. Sadly, the values of democracy have failed to reach to a common person at least in India, they are not aware of their political scenario. Isnâ€™t it a task of enlightened ones to approach common herd of humanities (whoâ€™re oblivious of whatâ€™s happening around them, whoâ€™re pathetically ignorant, whoâ€™re sadly apathetic) and spread the values? Afterall, when will be democracy successful in any nation? When everybody will at least know where they stand. Unless everybody participates in any process, how can we judge it s success or failures?</p>
<p>Of course, there are drawbacks of any technique, but then it will be a responsibility of a person whoâ€™ll resort to it, isnâ€™t it? Just because some technique is objectionable, it would not be healthy to throw it completely, would it? Moreover, Microtargetting can only persuade, it canâ€™t really force an action upon individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: keithgoodman</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80249</link>
		<dc:creator>keithgoodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do Democratic microtargeting for several clients, and I have to say that a lot of the information that has been in the press of late has been somewhat distorted; in particular, the bourbon and gin example that is often cited is not a statistic that is actually useful when doing microtargeting in the real world.  I&#039;ve put a lot of detailed information on my blog about some of the myths, I hope to be adding a section on truths in the coming days.  I&#039;d also be interested in hearing what areas of microtargeting people want to hear more about.  The blog, if you are interested in more, is: http://microtargeting.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do Democratic microtargeting for several clients, and I have to say that a lot of the information that has been in the press of late has been somewhat distorted; in particular, the bourbon and gin example that is often cited is not a statistic that is actually useful when doing microtargeting in the real world.  I&#8217;ve put a lot of detailed information on my blog about some of the myths, I hope to be adding a section on truths in the coming days.  I&#8217;d also be interested in hearing what areas of microtargeting people want to hear more about.  The blog, if you are interested in more, is: <a  href="http://microtargeting.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://microtargeting.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: fiddlesticks</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80248</link>
		<dc:creator>fiddlesticks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jazzman</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80247</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microtargeting as a result of data mining is at best a marketing tool directed at people who donâ€™t mind their personal information being available to others if a benefit accrues from that data such as money saving coupons or discounted goods (store ID rewards cards) and other quid pro quo exchanges. At worst it is a profiling tool for those with less than ideal intent.



I donâ€™t think political microtargeting is particularly useful for persuading anyone but naÃ¯ve independent voters who are ambivalent and canâ€™t discern much of a difference between their options. This voter is likely to decide shortly before or in the voting booth and opt for the most recent plausible position that was suggested by whomever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microtargeting as a result of data mining is at best a marketing tool directed at people who donâ€™t mind their personal information being available to others if a benefit accrues from that data such as money saving coupons or discounted goods (store ID rewards cards) and other quid pro quo exchanges. At worst it is a profiling tool for those with less than ideal intent.</p>
<p>I donâ€™t think political microtargeting is particularly useful for persuading anyone but naÃ¯ve independent voters who are ambivalent and canâ€™t discern much of a difference between their options. This voter is likely to decide shortly before or in the voting booth and opt for the most recent plausible position that was suggested by whomever.</p>
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		<title>By: plnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80246</link>
		<dc:creator>plnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Since the party of Lincoln is now all about private interests uber alles, . . .  &quot;



If ONLY!



I WISH the party of Lincoln had such an ethos; it would be a huge improvement over what we have now where the GOP continues to expand the power of the government to impose one narrow group&#039;s idea of morality about everything from TV and radio content, to the definition of marriage to flag burning, on everyone.    The GOP used to have a libertarian component to it, which could be counted on to look out for private interests, but like deficit hawks, they are yet another species made extinct by our (political) climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Since the party of Lincoln is now all about private interests uber alles, . . .  &#8221;</p>
<p>If ONLY!</p>
<p>I WISH the party of Lincoln had such an ethos; it would be a huge improvement over what we have now where the GOP continues to expand the power of the government to impose one narrow group&#8217;s idea of morality about everything from TV and radio content, to the definition of marriage to flag burning, on everyone.    The GOP used to have a libertarian component to it, which could be counted on to look out for private interests, but like deficit hawks, they are yet another species made extinct by our (political) climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: avecfrites</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80245</link>
		<dc:creator>avecfrites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microtargeting is just a technical tool, and like most technology it starts out in vertical applications (e.g., used by politicians and corporations) and then goes horizontal (to be used by regular people).



Microtargeting could be used by women&#039;s health groups (to remind people most at risk to get certain kinds of health screenings), child welfare groups (to reach out and educate people about parenting skills), charities (finding people most likely to contribute), etc.



This issues that govern how microtargeting will be used primarily relate to privacy and data security -- the availability of data on individuals, the rules relating to unsolicited contact of people, and identity theft protections, e.g.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microtargeting is just a technical tool, and like most technology it starts out in vertical applications (e.g., used by politicians and corporations) and then goes horizontal (to be used by regular people).</p>
<p>Microtargeting could be used by women&#8217;s health groups (to remind people most at risk to get certain kinds of health screenings), child welfare groups (to reach out and educate people about parenting skills), charities (finding people most likely to contribute), etc.</p>
<p>This issues that govern how microtargeting will be used primarily relate to privacy and data security &#8212; the availability of data on individuals, the rules relating to unsolicited contact of people, and identity theft protections, e.g.</p>
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		<title>By: miriama</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80244</link>
		<dc:creator>miriama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Mr. Voice saved his best point (of three good ones) for last. This fracturing democracy is in desperate need of appeals to all of us to think in terms of the common good.  Since the party of Lincoln is now all about private interests uber alles, it makes sense that they&#039;d become the microtargeting whizbangs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mr. Voice saved his best point (of three good ones) for last. This fracturing democracy is in desperate need of appeals to all of us to think in terms of the common good.  Since the party of Lincoln is now all about private interests uber alles, it makes sense that they&#8217;d become the microtargeting whizbangs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80243</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the strategy was to create more representative and responsive political entities rather than to effectively coerce voters into choosing between hues of red or blue micro-targeting might not be sardonic manipulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the strategy was to create more representative and responsive political entities rather than to effectively coerce voters into choosing between hues of red or blue micro-targeting might not be sardonic manipulation.</p>
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		<title>By: emmettoconnell</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-micro-targeted-democracy/#comment-80242</link>
		<dc:creator>emmettoconnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reconsidering my comments above, and I think I may have come across as too Little Miss Sunshine about micro-targeting. Any new technique or technology has the potential to be misused, and micro targeting could be misused to the point that politicians are even more creepy than they are now.



It reminds me of what was said during the experiments in democracy show (I forget who said it) that elections should be about the voters (or the people) and what we want, rather than about what aspects of the politicians are exciting or interesting. I think micro targeting, used well, gets us closer to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reconsidering my comments above, and I think I may have come across as too Little Miss Sunshine about micro-targeting. Any new technique or technology has the potential to be misused, and micro targeting could be misused to the point that politicians are even more creepy than they are now.</p>
<p>It reminds me of what was said during the experiments in democracy show (I forget who said it) that elections should be about the voters (or the people) and what we want, rather than about what aspects of the politicians are exciting or interesting. I think micro targeting, used well, gets us closer to that.</p>
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		<title>By: fiddlesticks</title>
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		<dc:creator>fiddlesticks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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