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	<title>Comments on: A Piano Master Class with Saleem Abboud Ashkar</title>
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		<title>By: ghostofdali</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/a-piano-master-class-with-saleem-abboud-ashkar/#comment-92026</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope we see a lot more shows like this one.  I&#039;m so glad Chris highlights Edward Said&#039;s contributions to the musical discourse, his work in that area is highly underrated.  I particularly enjoyed his analysis of Aida in &quot;Culture and Imperialism&quot;, where he peeled back the layers of the work and its context to show exactly how entrenched empire can be.



As for Saleem, I didn&#039;t know who he was before this show, and now I&#039;m really glad I do!  This is what ROS does best for me, it takes familiar topics and introduces new and refreshing voices, keep up the good work Chris!  I can&#039;t wait to check out the movie.



Saleem joins in a long line of musicians who have sought to bridge the gap between cultures.  His connection to Zubin Mehta is notable, since he along with Ravi Shankar, Alain Daneilou, and Yehudi Menuhin (among many others) pioneered the &quot;East-West&quot; collaborations years ago.  The musical discourse, which takes place in a parallel universe to the linguistic one, has waned in recent years, and I&#039;m glad that people like Saleem are keeping it alive.



Is there enough Brahms in the world to tame the savagery in the Middle East?  I think there is, but is it Brahms that the Israelis and Palestinians will rally around?  I don&#039;t think it takes much Brahms.  To me it is a vessel with infinite capacity, though people must be willing to fill it.  Sometimes the catalyst for change comes from unlikely sources - take Pete Seeger for example.  He was no Brahms, but when he strummed a few chords on a guitar or picked a little banjo and got people singing, they REALLY got together!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope we see a lot more shows like this one.  I&#8217;m so glad Chris highlights Edward Said&#8217;s contributions to the musical discourse, his work in that area is highly underrated.  I particularly enjoyed his analysis of Aida in &#8220;Culture and Imperialism&#8221;, where he peeled back the layers of the work and its context to show exactly how entrenched empire can be.</p>
<p>As for Saleem, I didn&#8217;t know who he was before this show, and now I&#8217;m really glad I do!  This is what ROS does best for me, it takes familiar topics and introduces new and refreshing voices, keep up the good work Chris!  I can&#8217;t wait to check out the movie.</p>
<p>Saleem joins in a long line of musicians who have sought to bridge the gap between cultures.  His connection to Zubin Mehta is notable, since he along with Ravi Shankar, Alain Daneilou, and Yehudi Menuhin (among many others) pioneered the &#8220;East-West&#8221; collaborations years ago.  The musical discourse, which takes place in a parallel universe to the linguistic one, has waned in recent years, and I&#8217;m glad that people like Saleem are keeping it alive.</p>
<p>Is there enough Brahms in the world to tame the savagery in the Middle East?  I think there is, but is it Brahms that the Israelis and Palestinians will rally around?  I don&#8217;t think it takes much Brahms.  To me it is a vessel with infinite capacity, though people must be willing to fill it.  Sometimes the catalyst for change comes from unlikely sources &#8211; take Pete Seeger for example.  He was no Brahms, but when he strummed a few chords on a guitar or picked a little banjo and got people singing, they REALLY got together!</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(This was to be the first part of that post- sorry)



What beautiful interview and I agree on the track of something wonderful that is hard to find words for. Music is so basic... it may be that mechanisms in our brains have an evolved  ability for music in order to survive. My husband who has spent his career in music reads about and is fascinated by this aspect. It&#039;s one language of emotion (so is dance) the opposite of, or other than, logic. We get so caught up in logic.



Itâ€™s an absolutely brilliant endeavor the West-Eastern Divan orchestra bringing together two sides in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to play music. They live in their higher selves, embody a way and hope. For a 30 year old Saleems sounds lightyears further in emotional maturity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(This was to be the first part of that post- sorry)</p>
<p>What beautiful interview and I agree on the track of something wonderful that is hard to find words for. Music is so basic&#8230; it may be that mechanisms in our brains have an evolved  ability for music in order to survive. My husband who has spent his career in music reads about and is fascinated by this aspect. It&#8217;s one language of emotion (so is dance) the opposite of, or other than, logic. We get so caught up in logic.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s an absolutely brilliant endeavor the West-Eastern Divan orchestra bringing together two sides in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to play music. They live in their higher selves, embody a way and hope. For a 30 year old Saleems sounds lightyears further in emotional maturity.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saleem also sounded so much like an Israeli, like my nephew-in-law actually. Saleem seems to say the two cultures really are blended and drawn to each other and there needs to be a political reality that reflects that. Right! Thatâ€™s what makes the wall so painful. Meron Benvenisti (thought to be radical) has been saying this for years. But in his generation, maybe also Said&#039;s, I felt bitterness that I don&#039;t feel from Saleem. Saleem is too much a product of those Israeliâ€™s and Arab Palestinians, those too few of both cultures who have been reaching out to each other all along. Saleem is also so right when he says that it only takes one person to wreck fragile attempts at peaceful settlement. I agree that Oslo taught that there can be no gradual steps and that Oslo was not for naught. Unfortunately others have learned different and negative lessons from Oslo. But it was said and celebrated at the time that the achievements of Oslo meant no going back to what was. Something good remains; as Saleem says, the hope remains.



They are both the same generation, my nephew ( incidentally related to Artur Rubinstein)

 and Saleem,  the same age, and they have the same disappointments but still they hope.



Hurley-thank you for your post about birdsong.



Thank you Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saleem also sounded so much like an Israeli, like my nephew-in-law actually. Saleem seems to say the two cultures really are blended and drawn to each other and there needs to be a political reality that reflects that. Right! Thatâ€™s what makes the wall so painful. Meron Benvenisti (thought to be radical) has been saying this for years. But in his generation, maybe also Said&#8217;s, I felt bitterness that I don&#8217;t feel from Saleem. Saleem is too much a product of those Israeliâ€™s and Arab Palestinians, those too few of both cultures who have been reaching out to each other all along. Saleem is also so right when he says that it only takes one person to wreck fragile attempts at peaceful settlement. I agree that Oslo taught that there can be no gradual steps and that Oslo was not for naught. Unfortunately others have learned different and negative lessons from Oslo. But it was said and celebrated at the time that the achievements of Oslo meant no going back to what was. Something good remains; as Saleem says, the hope remains.</p>
<p>They are both the same generation, my nephew ( incidentally related to Artur Rubinstein)</p>
<p> and Saleem,  the same age, and they have the same disappointments but still they hope.</p>
<p>Hurley-thank you for your post about birdsong.</p>
<p>Thank you Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: OliverCranglesParrot</title>
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		<dc:creator>OliverCranglesParrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response Chris and I look forward to the Proust graf. And thanks for the Coetzee hurley. This kind of stuff truly expands the horizons.



And a belated thanks to Norman Mailer for inspiring Chris to get out the Proust. Perhaps, I&#039;ll give Proust another shot. I&#039;m guessing I need to wait a couple years, to feel a little more august, brittle, and mentally and physically bereft! Judging how I generally feel each and every morning, this day creeps closer and closer with predatory acumen.



I&#039;ll leave off with this link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Christopher_Alexander&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christopher Alexander&lt;/a&gt; because I like the zen of his Brahms. From the timeless way of building: &lt;i&gt;There is a central quality which is the root criterion of life and spirit in a man, a town a building, or a wilderness. This quality is objective and precise, but it cannot be named.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response Chris and I look forward to the Proust graf. And thanks for the Coetzee hurley. This kind of stuff truly expands the horizons.</p>
<p>And a belated thanks to Norman Mailer for inspiring Chris to get out the Proust. Perhaps, I&#8217;ll give Proust another shot. I&#8217;m guessing I need to wait a couple years, to feel a little more august, brittle, and mentally and physically bereft! Judging how I generally feel each and every morning, this day creeps closer and closer with predatory acumen.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave off with this link to <a  href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Christopher_Alexander" rel="nofollow">Christopher Alexander</a> because I like the zen of his Brahms. From the timeless way of building: <i>There is a central quality which is the root criterion of life and spirit in a man, a town a building, or a wilderness. This quality is objective and precise, but it cannot be named.</i></p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff. OCP (and Chris before him) right to highlight that electric, musico-metaphysical passage from Proust. Who/what communicates by song instead of words? Birds, of course. This from J.M. Coetzee&#039;s Diary of a Bad Year:



What Cartesian nonsense to think of birdsong as pre-programmed cries uttered by birds to advertise their presence to the opposite sex, and so forth! Each bird-cry is a full-hearted release of the self into the air, accompanied by such joy as we can barely comprehend. I! says each cry: I! What a miracle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff. OCP (and Chris before him) right to highlight that electric, musico-metaphysical passage from Proust. Who/what communicates by song instead of words? Birds, of course. This from J.M. Coetzee&#8217;s Diary of a Bad Year:</p>
<p>What Cartesian nonsense to think of birdsong as pre-programmed cries uttered by birds to advertise their presence to the opposite sex, and so forth! Each bird-cry is a full-hearted release of the self into the air, accompanied by such joy as we can barely comprehend. I! says each cry: I! What a miracle!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear OCP:  You get it, brother.  I will post that Proust graf in the next few days.  It comes up in every conversation lately... with Oliver Sachs, for example, and with Jonah Lehrer, of &quot;Proust was a Neuroscientist.&quot;  I am swinging with John Coltrane&#039;s &quot;Bessie&#039;s Blues&quot; at this moment.  Music is the whole story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear OCP:  You get it, brother.  I will post that Proust graf in the next few days.  It comes up in every conversation lately&#8230; with Oliver Sachs, for example, and with Jonah Lehrer, of &#8220;Proust was a Neuroscientist.&#8221;  I am swinging with John Coltrane&#8217;s &#8220;Bessie&#8217;s Blues&#8221; at this moment.  Music is the whole story.</p>
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		<title>By: OliverCranglesParrot</title>
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		<dc:creator>OliverCranglesParrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last question and answer were superb. I too have reflected much upon this matter. That Proust passage is amazing. Thanks Chris ... your Brahms swings, bops, and rolls ...  you keep drawing the Zorba out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last question and answer were superb. I too have reflected much upon this matter. That Proust passage is amazing. Thanks Chris &#8230; your Brahms swings, bops, and rolls &#8230;  you keep drawing the Zorba out.</p>
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