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		<title>By: rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand you started with the Latke...

I got on to this show a little later...

I just want to say the Latke is a real act of LOVE!

My grandmother&#039;s recipee from Poland is so simple and so wonderful.

Potato, hand grated

onion grated

A bit of flour

beaten egg

and salt  and a hot batch of oil.

And it must be hand grated to be truelly delicious!

Nothing like the act of love of hand grating those delicious potatos.

ANd it must be eaten in the Winter Solstice season. Otherwise it&#039;s not a latke.

And it&#039;s not Chanukah without the Latke...to be shared with everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand you started with the Latke&#8230;</p>
<p>I got on to this show a little later&#8230;</p>
<p>I just want to say the Latke is a real act of LOVE!</p>
<p>My grandmother&#8217;s recipee from Poland is so simple and so wonderful.</p>
<p>Potato, hand grated</p>
<p>onion grated</p>
<p>A bit of flour</p>
<p>beaten egg</p>
<p>and salt  and a hot batch of oil.</p>
<p>And it must be hand grated to be truelly delicious!</p>
<p>Nothing like the act of love of hand grating those delicious potatos.</p>
<p>ANd it must be eaten in the Winter Solstice season. Otherwise it&#8217;s not a latke.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not Chanukah without the Latke&#8230;to be shared with everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: David Weinstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Weinstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 06:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addenda:  The election rigging in 1960 took place in one county in one state.  In 2004 there was rampant election rigging in throughout the swing states of Ohio and Florida, as well as many other states such as New Mexico and Georgia.  Vote suppression was also prevalent in 2004.... And it wiill get worse if we don&#039;t do anything about it.



There is some good news though.  Jennifer Brunner, a judge who quit here position to run to take Kenneth Blackwell&#039;s position as secretary of state is doing well in the polls against her opponent who was a Bush/Cheney 2004 county chair.  He has promised to further turn the screws on democracy in that swing state.  But if Jennifer Brunner gets in, she will overturn all of Blackwell&#039;s insidious, anti-democratic practices and make Ohio a clean electoral state again.  But the republican politcal machine is desperate to hold onto a rigged electoral Ohio and is throwing everything they have against Brunner.  If you wish to support her, and by extension, in my opinion, the furture of democracy in Ohio and this nation, please visit www.jenniferbrunner.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addenda:  The election rigging in 1960 took place in one county in one state.  In 2004 there was rampant election rigging in throughout the swing states of Ohio and Florida, as well as many other states such as New Mexico and Georgia.  Vote suppression was also prevalent in 2004&#8230;. And it wiill get worse if we don&#8217;t do anything about it.</p>
<p>There is some good news though.  Jennifer Brunner, a judge who quit here position to run to take Kenneth Blackwell&#8217;s position as secretary of state is doing well in the polls against her opponent who was a Bush/Cheney 2004 county chair.  He has promised to further turn the screws on democracy in that swing state.  But if Jennifer Brunner gets in, she will overturn all of Blackwell&#8217;s insidious, anti-democratic practices and make Ohio a clean electoral state again.  But the republican politcal machine is desperate to hold onto a rigged electoral Ohio and is throwing everything they have against Brunner.  If you wish to support her, and by extension, in my opinion, the furture of democracy in Ohio and this nation, please visit <a  href="http://www.jenniferbrunner.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jenniferbrunner.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Weinstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Weinstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One important point overlooked in this show.  The constitutions actually allows for the organization and oversight of elections to be controled by each state.  I think that is because the framers were worried about the possibility of the party in power in Washington to control the elections and perpetuate their power.  They were most concerned with tyranny after having just overthrown a king.  Unfortunately and ironically they tyranny they were fearing has become true by the powers given to the secretaries of state such as in Ohio with the nefarious Kenneth Blackwell.



I also think this show did not adequatley put in perspective the magnitude of the tyranny and oppression we are being subjected to with a presdeintial election clearly stolen in 2004.  There are two other cases in American history.  One is the cheating of the Daley machine in 1960 that probably allowed Kennedy to gain the White House.  The other was in the 1870&#039;s, I believe, when the republicans (the good guys then) manipulated the presdiential election in order to continue a faltering reconstruction of the defeated South.  But the democrats, unlike today, stood up on their hind legs, and a comprimise ws hammered out.  This spelled the end of reconstruction and the beginnign of Jim Crow in the South.



The double irony is tht the republicans used many of the Jim Crow tactics to steal both the 200 and 2004 elections, updating the practice.  I call it &#039;Jim Crow for the rest of us.&#039;



Tyranny lives on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One important point overlooked in this show.  The constitutions actually allows for the organization and oversight of elections to be controled by each state.  I think that is because the framers were worried about the possibility of the party in power in Washington to control the elections and perpetuate their power.  They were most concerned with tyranny after having just overthrown a king.  Unfortunately and ironically they tyranny they were fearing has become true by the powers given to the secretaries of state such as in Ohio with the nefarious Kenneth Blackwell.</p>
<p>I also think this show did not adequatley put in perspective the magnitude of the tyranny and oppression we are being subjected to with a presdeintial election clearly stolen in 2004.  There are two other cases in American history.  One is the cheating of the Daley machine in 1960 that probably allowed Kennedy to gain the White House.  The other was in the 1870&#8242;s, I believe, when the republicans (the good guys then) manipulated the presdiential election in order to continue a faltering reconstruction of the defeated South.  But the democrats, unlike today, stood up on their hind legs, and a comprimise ws hammered out.  This spelled the end of reconstruction and the beginnign of Jim Crow in the South.</p>
<p>The double irony is tht the republicans used many of the Jim Crow tactics to steal both the 200 and 2004 elections, updating the practice.  I call it &#8216;Jim Crow for the rest of us.&#8217;</p>
<p>Tyranny lives on.</p>
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		<title>By: solanic</title>
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		<dc:creator>solanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in response to DrDan&#039;s post above...

&lt;i&gt;What do YOU do when faced with ostriches?&lt;/i&gt;



is it possible bush&#039;s underlying message of &lt;i&gt;we need to help spread democracy&lt;/i&gt;...is his subliminal message president jefferenson&#039;s quote mentioned above?



wouldn&#039;t it be a joy to live again in a democracy and not a capitalist society?



[does anyone remember who wrote quite the interesting editoral about the democracy vs. capitalist society?]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in response to DrDan&#8217;s post above&#8230;</p>
<p><i>What do YOU do when faced with ostriches?</i></p>
<p>is it possible bush&#8217;s underlying message of <i>we need to help spread democracy</i>&#8230;is his subliminal message president jefferenson&#8217;s quote mentioned above?</p>
<p>wouldn&#8217;t it be a joy to live again in a democracy and not a capitalist society?</p>
<p>[does anyone remember who wrote quite the interesting editoral about the democracy vs. capitalist society?]</p>
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		<title>By: DrDan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>===== quote =====

#  Thomas Prislac Jr. Says:

June 21st, 2006 at 10:12 pm



I am surprised that more citizens haven&#039;t taken to the streets in a manner emulating our international brethren. If Americans would allow themselves to be &quot;riled up&quot; beyond the old sedentary grumbling, maybe we could effect change. If our fellow citizens in government understood that their civilian brothers and sisters would be willing to shut down the daily business of brand-name America, maybe they would be less willing to undermine the principles so many have suffered and perished for.

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&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

--Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356 (from http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0300.htm )



&lt;b&gt;!! http://www.confusionroad.com/article_images/mob.jpg !! &lt;/b&gt;



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#  solanic Says:

June 22nd, 2006 at 10:55 am



just heard this today as our station plays it the next day.



anyway...thought this was very ironic...if thatâ€™s the word.

diebold. their tagline: &lt;i&gt;we won&#039;t rest. we won&#039;t rest until what happens?



i can&#039;t fathom how this topic does not scare people shitless.&lt;/i&gt;



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I myself have been so since 2000 and it&#039;s gotten orders of magnitude more worrisome by now.  Another thing I can&#039;t fathom is why most of those nearest and dearest to me, while Progressive in their thinking, are ... not so much.



I&#039;d wager that those in the audience who also share &lt;b&gt;solanic&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s concern also have family members whom they think are acting as &quot;ostrich-like&quot; as did the Jews in the Weimar Republic.  They counsel &quot;patience&quot; and &quot;not to be too concerned.&quot;  &lt;i&gt;Hell, my country is being sold down the river!!&lt;/i&gt;



What do YOU do when faced with ostriches?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>===== quote =====</p>
<p>#  Thomas Prislac Jr. Says:</p>
<p>June 21st, 2006 at 10:12 pm</p>
<p>I am surprised that more citizens haven&#8217;t taken to the streets in a manner emulating our international brethren. If Americans would allow themselves to be &#8220;riled up&#8221; beyond the old sedentary grumbling, maybe we could effect change. If our fellow citizens in government understood that their civilian brothers and sisters would be willing to shut down the daily business of brand-name America, maybe they would be less willing to undermine the principles so many have suffered and perished for.</p>
<p>===== quote =====</p>
<p><b><i>&#8220;The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.&#8221;</i></b></p>
<p>&#8211;Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356 (from <a  href="http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0300.htm" rel="nofollow">http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0300.htm</a> )</p>
<p><b>!! <a  href="http://www.confusionroad.com/article_images/mob.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.confusionroad.com/article_images/mob.jpg</a> !! </b></p>
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<p>#  solanic Says:</p>
<p>June 22nd, 2006 at 10:55 am</p>
<p>just heard this today as our station plays it the next day.</p>
<p>anyway&#8230;thought this was very ironic&#8230;if thatâ€™s the word.</p>
<p>diebold. their tagline: <i>we won&#8217;t rest. we won&#8217;t rest until what happens?</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t fathom how this topic does not scare people shitless.</i></p>
<p>===== unquote =====</p>
<p>I myself have been so since 2000 and it&#8217;s gotten orders of magnitude more worrisome by now.  Another thing I can&#8217;t fathom is why most of those nearest and dearest to me, while Progressive in their thinking, are &#8230; not so much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d wager that those in the audience who also share <b>solanic</b>&#8216;s concern also have family members whom they think are acting as &#8220;ostrich-like&#8221; as did the Jews in the Weimar Republic.  They counsel &#8220;patience&#8221; and &#8220;not to be too concerned.&#8221;  <i>Hell, my country is being sold down the river!!</i></p>
<p>What do YOU do when faced with ostriches?</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment on comment 1 above from Peggy:



Bush is spending billions, no trillions, on an unnecessary war in Iraq that is feeding the endless &quot;war on terrorism&quot;. Then there is the issue of tax cuts for the mostly wealthy that can&#039;t be repealed because the Republicans will scream tax increase.



The above might be the key to comment 2 as well. It&#039;s a matter of where our government Republicans and Democrats, and this administration after 2000 and 2004, puts it&#039;s energy and focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment on comment 1 above from Peggy:</p>
<p>Bush is spending billions, no trillions, on an unnecessary war in Iraq that is feeding the endless &#8220;war on terrorism&#8221;. Then there is the issue of tax cuts for the mostly wealthy that can&#8217;t be repealed because the Republicans will scream tax increase.</p>
<p>The above might be the key to comment 2 as well. It&#8217;s a matter of where our government Republicans and Democrats, and this administration after 2000 and 2004, puts it&#8217;s energy and focus.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have heard two shows this week.

Comment 1:  How can anyone complain about government inaction in the same breath as they complain that President Bush is spending too much?

Is there anything that you think government should do?

e.g. roads, police, fire, schools,health announcements, accredit hospitals, etc.



Comment 2:  Local elections are monitored by mostly unpaid volunteers.  e.g. Florida in 2000.  Those doing the recount were paid $50.00 the first day.  No overtime.  This is typical.

Virginia still has vestiges of federal oversight.  But has a one term governor.

Some local governments have partially discarded this since President Nixon was first elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have heard two shows this week.</p>
<p>Comment 1:  How can anyone complain about government inaction in the same breath as they complain that President Bush is spending too much?</p>
<p>Is there anything that you think government should do?</p>
<p>e.g. roads, police, fire, schools,health announcements, accredit hospitals, etc.</p>
<p>Comment 2:  Local elections are monitored by mostly unpaid volunteers.  e.g. Florida in 2000.  Those doing the recount were paid $50.00 the first day.  No overtime.  This is typical.</p>
<p>Virginia still has vestiges of federal oversight.  But has a one term governor.</p>
<p>Some local governments have partially discarded this since President Nixon was first elected.</p>
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		<title>By: solanic</title>
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		<dc:creator>solanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just heard this today as our station plays it the next day.



anyway....thought this was very ironic...if that&#039;s the word.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diebold.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;diebold&lt;/a&gt;. their tagline: &lt;i&gt;we won&#039;t rest. we won&#039;t rest until what happens?



i can&#039;t fathom how this topic does not scare people shitless.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just heard this today as our station plays it the next day.</p>
<p>anyway&#8230;.thought this was very ironic&#8230;if that&#8217;s the word.</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.diebold.com/" rel="nofollow">diebold</a>. their tagline: <i>we won&#8217;t rest. we won&#8217;t rest until what happens?</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t fathom how this topic does not scare people shitless.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sherry Chandler &#187; Conservatism at the Cross Roads?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry Chandler &#187; Conservatism at the Cross Roads?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nifestations? And what is its future direction? &#8221; 	Currently available for download: America&#8217;s Dirty Elections and Steal This Election. 	  	 This post was written by s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nifestations? And what is its future direction? &#8221; 	Currently available for download: America&#8217;s Dirty Elections and Steal This Election. 	  	 This post was written by s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not know that Barry Goldwater&#039;s remark: &quot;Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.&quot; is a paraphrase of Cicero ( see Wiki on Goldwater).  And so we segue into conservatism.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not know that Barry Goldwater&#8217;s remark: &#8220;Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.&#8221; is a paraphrase of Cicero ( see Wiki on Goldwater).  And so we segue into conservatism&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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