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	<title>Comments on: As We Were Saying&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics</description>
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		<title>By: TEP492</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-96179</link>
		<dc:creator>TEP492</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss the old ROS, where I felt there were more frequent programs exploring deep subject matter.  It seems the new format has a lot more straight up interviews.  Some programs remain exceptional - American Transcendentalism comes to mind.

Here&#039;s a link to an interesting topic:  Race and IQ.  I&#039;m a fan of Gladwell and find his research to be thorough, provacative, and balanced.
http://gladwell.typepad.com/gladwellcom/2007/12/race-and-iq-con.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss the old ROS, where I felt there were more frequent programs exploring deep subject matter.  It seems the new format has a lot more straight up interviews.  Some programs remain exceptional &#8211; American Transcendentalism comes to mind.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to an interesting topic:  Race and IQ.  I&#8217;m a fan of Gladwell and find his research to be thorough, provacative, and balanced.<br />
<a href="http://gladwell.typepad.com/gladwellcom/2007/12/race-and-iq-con.html" rel="nofollow">http://gladwell.typepad.com/gladwellcom/2007/12/race-and-iq-con.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: lostsa</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-94545</link>
		<dc:creator>lostsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been out of it for a while, just showed up and found that you guys are back and running. Great news, thanks for keeping it up, and good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been out of it for a while, just showed up and found that you guys are back and running. Great news, thanks for keeping it up, and good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-94027</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pre-interview threads could be revivified by posting the schedule further in advance. I&#039;m sure that even a brief preview write-up would be sufficient to engage the ROS crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pre-interview threads could be revivified by posting the schedule further in advance. I&#8217;m sure that even a brief preview write-up would be sufficient to engage the ROS crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: enhabit</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-93961</link>
		<dc:creator>enhabit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: Emmett O'Connell</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-93947</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmett O'Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad things are getting going again, but I&#039;m not engaged with the current life of this project as I&#039;d like to be.

Unless I&#039;m really missing something, I miss the threads that happen before a show is recorded. I realize that inserting that conversation into the show had a lot to do with having a blogger-in-chief around, but I still really miss it.

Also, its time for a new suggest a show thread. The old one was from June. New thread for new life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad things are getting going again, but I&#8217;m not engaged with the current life of this project as I&#8217;d like to be.</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m really missing something, I miss the threads that happen before a show is recorded. I realize that inserting that conversation into the show had a lot to do with having a blogger-in-chief around, but I still really miss it.</p>
<p>Also, its time for a new suggest a show thread. The old one was from June. New thread for new life!</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeM</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-92362</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris and Mary,
So wonderful that you are back on the air and online. So thrilled to hear your voice.

George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris and Mary,<br />
So wonderful that you are back on the air and online. So thrilled to hear your voice.</p>
<p>George</p>
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		<title>By: Forton Twelve</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-92181</link>
		<dc:creator>Forton Twelve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great news - OS has been a wealth of stimulating (if un-popular) ideas - both in the programming and the commentaries - I&#039;m glad you&#039;re back!  

Radio Broadcasts would be great: I&#039;ll listen on-line; but I think the radio broadcasts open the WEB interaction up to a much broader community.

Thank You!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news &#8211; OS has been a wealth of stimulating (if un-popular) ideas &#8211; both in the programming and the commentaries &#8211; I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re back!  </p>
<p>Radio Broadcasts would be great: I&#8217;ll listen on-line; but I think the radio broadcasts open the WEB interaction up to a much broader community.</p>
<p>Thank You!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Read</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-92134</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris &amp; Mary - are these new podcasts going to be available on PRX for licensing for broadcast?  I noticed the Norman Mailer show on there, but nothing newer.   Of course, the newer stuff isn&#039;t really the right length for radio broadcasts...but hell, so what?  It&#039;s good stuff.   I&#039;d like to air it on WEOS, anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris &amp; Mary &#8211; are these new podcasts going to be available on PRX for licensing for broadcast?  I noticed the Norman Mailer show on there, but nothing newer.   Of course, the newer stuff isn&#8217;t really the right length for radio broadcasts&#8230;but hell, so what?  It&#8217;s good stuff.   I&#8217;d like to air it on WEOS, anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-92035</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every now and then someone comes around to p-ss and then lay on &quot;a little insight and perspective&quot;. Oh well. 

Mynocturama- thanks for the Montaigne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every now and then someone comes around to p-ss and then lay on &#8220;a little insight and perspective&#8221;. Oh well. </p>
<p>Mynocturama- thanks for the Montaigne.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Filkorn</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-91995</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Filkorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a brilliant surprise to see the little blue dot next to Open Source on my ipod. I&#039;d been limping along with Melvin Bragg on the BBC and Harry Shearer, but there was nothing out there that would leave me challenged and inspired in quite the same way.

So this morning, I&#039;m walking my dog in the woods (during the 1-week lull in hunting season) listening to the Bach installment and thinking to myself and missing the days when I used to sing it myself. Nothing is harder to sing than Bach when you&#039;re learning it, and yet once you know it, nothing is more effortless. But what really struck me was hearing the voices in the rehearsal space--the intimacy of the small room. Most people hear that kind of music as finished product in a church or a big hall, and that&#039;s kind of what OS is for me. It&#039;s an intimate discussion of ideas that energize you to go out and do things that will play in a big room. 

Blah, blah, blah. I&#039;m so glad you&#039;re back and hope that folks like &quot;random knowledge&quot; remain in their Jerry Bruckheimer/Morning Edition world and leave us roadkill to our happy little enlightened existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a brilliant surprise to see the little blue dot next to Open Source on my ipod. I&#8217;d been limping along with Melvin Bragg on the BBC and Harry Shearer, but there was nothing out there that would leave me challenged and inspired in quite the same way.</p>
<p>So this morning, I&#8217;m walking my dog in the woods (during the 1-week lull in hunting season) listening to the Bach installment and thinking to myself and missing the days when I used to sing it myself. Nothing is harder to sing than Bach when you&#8217;re learning it, and yet once you know it, nothing is more effortless. But what really struck me was hearing the voices in the rehearsal space&#8211;the intimacy of the small room. Most people hear that kind of music as finished product in a church or a big hall, and that&#8217;s kind of what OS is for me. It&#8217;s an intimate discussion of ideas that energize you to go out and do things that will play in a big room. </p>
<p>Blah, blah, blah. I&#8217;m so glad you&#8217;re back and hope that folks like &#8220;random knowledge&#8221; remain in their Jerry Bruckheimer/Morning Edition world and leave us roadkill to our happy little enlightened existence.</p>
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		<title>By: enhabit</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-91972</link>
		<dc:creator>enhabit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since when is &quot;popular&quot; better, and what&#039;s with the gratuitous insults?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since when is &#8220;popular&#8221; better, and what&#8217;s with the gratuitous insults?</p>
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		<title>By: randomknowldge(new)</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-91348</link>
		<dc:creator>randomknowldge(new)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;love fest&quot; on display here among all of the little &quot;incestuous&quot; community is entertaining to say the least. Talk about making &quot;lemonade out when life gives you lemonsâ€ but Chrisâ€™ retreat into the protection of the Watson Institute as Brown is the result of the fact that he and the show canâ€™t compete for funds out here â€œin the real worldâ€. Open Source was a successful experiment if  you were looking for a model that succeeded in only attracting the crowd with the most uniformly inane opinions. So inane that no one but a â€œspecial groupâ€ like them wants to listen to them. I once had a friend who was a fan of â€œIndyâ€ movies who while railing against Hollywood block buster style flicks at a party said â€œI want to have my own movie theater that only shows the types of movies that I want to watchâ€. When I pointed out that most of the movies that she had discussed at the party that night not even her friends had seen I said â€œYou mean that you want to own a movie theater that plays movies that not many people want to see?â€. â€“ that is Open Source.

Isnâ€™t it ironic that Chris must rely on the Watson Institute to nurture his new model where â€œcasting where the new discourse of a global age is taking shape.â€ It is very revealing that Chris proudly states a few facts about Watson and this organization at Brown. He says that it was founded to address  â€œthe most urgent global risks of the time: nuclear hazards of the Cold Warâ€ by Watson who was â€œJimmy Carterâ€™s ambassador to Moscowâ€.  To put this into perspective and give and little insight into who thinks that Open Source is worth nurturing it might be valuable to review a few facts. Watson was a visionary, in his time. While IBM was a de facto US Govt supported monopoly (much more so than Microsoft has ever been or will be) he was unceremoniously dumped when he and IBMâ€™s old outdated business model almost led to itâ€™s destruction. Then the original mission re: the Cold War was made meaningless by Jimmy Carterâ€™s successors Ronald Regan and George HW Bush. The end of the USSR wasnâ€™t due to Carter (and by extension Watsonâ€™s) ideas and actions to those diametrically opposite and the current success of IBM was due to Watson but to the fact that todayâ€™s IBM is totally different.

So, Watson and Carter were both great examples of â€œroad killâ€ as history ran over their legacies yet itâ€™s touted as success that Chris will shelter under those legacies in order to â€œmove forwardâ€. The phrase â€œIt seems that the apple doesnâ€™t fall far from the treeâ€ is normally used when making a more direct statement about physical heritage but I think that it is appropriate here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;love fest&#8221; on display here among all of the little &#8220;incestuous&#8221; community is entertaining to say the least. Talk about making &#8220;lemonade out when life gives you lemonsâ€ but Chrisâ€™ retreat into the protection of the Watson Institute as Brown is the result of the fact that he and the show canâ€™t compete for funds out here â€œin the real worldâ€. Open Source was a successful experiment if  you were looking for a model that succeeded in only attracting the crowd with the most uniformly inane opinions. So inane that no one but a â€œspecial groupâ€ like them wants to listen to them. I once had a friend who was a fan of â€œIndyâ€ movies who while railing against Hollywood block buster style flicks at a party said â€œI want to have my own movie theater that only shows the types of movies that I want to watchâ€. When I pointed out that most of the movies that she had discussed at the party that night not even her friends had seen I said â€œYou mean that you want to own a movie theater that plays movies that not many people want to see?â€. â€“ that is Open Source.</p>
<p>Isnâ€™t it ironic that Chris must rely on the Watson Institute to nurture his new model where â€œcasting where the new discourse of a global age is taking shape.â€ It is very revealing that Chris proudly states a few facts about Watson and this organization at Brown. He says that it was founded to address  â€œthe most urgent global risks of the time: nuclear hazards of the Cold Warâ€ by Watson who was â€œJimmy Carterâ€™s ambassador to Moscowâ€.  To put this into perspective and give and little insight into who thinks that Open Source is worth nurturing it might be valuable to review a few facts. Watson was a visionary, in his time. While IBM was a de facto US Govt supported monopoly (much more so than Microsoft has ever been or will be) he was unceremoniously dumped when he and IBMâ€™s old outdated business model almost led to itâ€™s destruction. Then the original mission re: the Cold War was made meaningless by Jimmy Carterâ€™s successors Ronald Regan and George HW Bush. The end of the USSR wasnâ€™t due to Carter (and by extension Watsonâ€™s) ideas and actions to those diametrically opposite and the current success of IBM was due to Watson but to the fact that todayâ€™s IBM is totally different.</p>
<p>So, Watson and Carter were both great examples of â€œroad killâ€ as history ran over their legacies yet itâ€™s touted as success that Chris will shelter under those legacies in order to â€œmove forwardâ€. The phrase â€œIt seems that the apple doesnâ€™t fall far from the treeâ€ is normally used when making a more direct statement about physical heritage but I think that it is appropriate here.</p>
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		<title>By: W.M. Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-91156</link>
		<dc:creator>W.M. Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, also, am glad that Lydon is back, as I often enjoy the programs, but find I have questions.  The very fact that Lydon proclaims ROS as having found a home at a place he is formally &quot;visting&quot; is a tension that should be addressed openly, rather than glossed over.

Lydon&#039;s voice is clearly an intelligent one, and often interesting, but as a skeptic by inclination, I find this post to constitute more rhetorical self-cheer than a full explanation of what happened to ROS and its current state.  Is Lydon, now a fellow at Watson, and using Brown&#039;s facilities on the side, or does ROS as an entity itself have a formal home there - a concrete agreement with Brown that pays for the program?  If so, did Brown pay off ROS debts, which clearly had mounted and were pushing it under?   If not, what happened to those obligations? - a fair question to ask in light of the public&#039;s money going to ROS indirectly (through the tax-exempt status of the Macarthur grant) and directly through donations.

What, also, is Lydon&#039;s post-action analysis: why did ROS fail, as it clearly did, as a stand-alone effort, and how is this stint any different from several years back when he was a fellow at HLS?

In sum, the Radio portion of ROS seems now to be lacking, as does the Open Source aspect, as that, in significant part, suggests full disclosure.  The apparent failure of the program, as opposed to Lydon individually, to find a sponsor, is telling.  Boston and New England clearly have bright minds who are trying to build independent podcast programs, but perhaps with the logarithmically expanding media options on the WWW, the daily growing flood of options (i.e., competition) is too much for them to gain real traction.  One cannot but admire Lydon&#039;s effort in light of its apparent Sysiphean cast, but wonder, in that Lydon is a &quot;visting fellow&quot; - a term that suggests a time limit - what will happen a year from now . . ..

Put more abstractly, in closing: I find it somewhat puzzling that an individual who clearly has a mind that is very capable of - and likes to - challenge others&#039; rhetorically self-serving constructs, thereby often asking tough and thought-provoking questions, puts up postings about his own enterprise that do not evidence such a self-questioning dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, also, am glad that Lydon is back, as I often enjoy the programs, but find I have questions.  The very fact that Lydon proclaims ROS as having found a home at a place he is formally &#8220;visting&#8221; is a tension that should be addressed openly, rather than glossed over.</p>
<p>Lydon&#8217;s voice is clearly an intelligent one, and often interesting, but as a skeptic by inclination, I find this post to constitute more rhetorical self-cheer than a full explanation of what happened to ROS and its current state.  Is Lydon, now a fellow at Watson, and using Brown&#8217;s facilities on the side, or does ROS as an entity itself have a formal home there &#8211; a concrete agreement with Brown that pays for the program?  If so, did Brown pay off ROS debts, which clearly had mounted and were pushing it under?   If not, what happened to those obligations? &#8211; a fair question to ask in light of the public&#8217;s money going to ROS indirectly (through the tax-exempt status of the Macarthur grant) and directly through donations.</p>
<p>What, also, is Lydon&#8217;s post-action analysis: why did ROS fail, as it clearly did, as a stand-alone effort, and how is this stint any different from several years back when he was a fellow at HLS?</p>
<p>In sum, the Radio portion of ROS seems now to be lacking, as does the Open Source aspect, as that, in significant part, suggests full disclosure.  The apparent failure of the program, as opposed to Lydon individually, to find a sponsor, is telling.  Boston and New England clearly have bright minds who are trying to build independent podcast programs, but perhaps with the logarithmically expanding media options on the WWW, the daily growing flood of options (i.e., competition) is too much for them to gain real traction.  One cannot but admire Lydon&#8217;s effort in light of its apparent Sysiphean cast, but wonder, in that Lydon is a &#8220;visting fellow&#8221; &#8211; a term that suggests a time limit &#8211; what will happen a year from now . . ..</p>
<p>Put more abstractly, in closing: I find it somewhat puzzling that an individual who clearly has a mind that is very capable of &#8211; and likes to &#8211; challenge others&#8217; rhetorically self-serving constructs, thereby often asking tough and thought-provoking questions, puts up postings about his own enterprise that do not evidence such a self-questioning dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Nandes</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-90827</link>
		<dc:creator>Nandes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a Seattlitte and avid listener to Open Source podcasts on her ferry commute, I am SO glad you&#039;re back.  I listened to the Oliver Sacks conversation this morning and was reminded how wonderful your program is.  During your hiatus, I could not find a podcast that compares.  Looking forward to many more great conversations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a Seattlitte and avid listener to Open Source podcasts on her ferry commute, I am SO glad you&#8217;re back.  I listened to the Oliver Sacks conversation this morning and was reminded how wonderful your program is.  During your hiatus, I could not find a podcast that compares.  Looking forward to many more great conversations!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher,
Congrats on landing at Brown, my own alma mater.  Now I have one more reason to love the place.  I&#039;m looking forward to your Groundhog Day broadcast with Harold - always a good choice.  Enjoy...

Danny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher,<br />
Congrats on landing at Brown, my own alma mater.  Now I have one more reason to love the place.  I&#8217;m looking forward to your Groundhog Day broadcast with Harold &#8211; always a good choice.  Enjoy&#8230;</p>
<p>Danny</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear PeggySue and Nick:  It&#039;s not that we haven&#039;t thought of moving to Seattle...  Jeff Hansen at KUOW was one of the original believers in Open Source and a sound guide.  (Before we started, he said: don&#039;t be shy about aiming high and making it smarter than anything on radio.  He said the audience is aware that NPR isn&#039;t as smart as it pretends to be or ought to be...)  The listening auidience turned out to be a wondrously expressive writing and commenting community; it was said real friendships, maybe even romances, blossomed among Seattle folk who knew each other only as listeners to Open Source.  We came to love everything about the town, including the Pacific outlook, the Mariners, the Koolhaas library, Jonathan Raban and the ferries across the Sound.  Don&#039;t change a thing, and invite us again for a visit... but we&#039;re hoping to work our way back to radio -- yes, including KUOW -- through this experiment in podcasting from the Watson Institute at Brown University.  Providence is not so different, and not so far, from Seattle.  It&#039;s a smaller, New England version of your waterfront town, full of its own history and burning ambition to be heard in the world.  It is a community made for podcasting... for working on the distinctiveness of our voice and our thinking; for observing the transformations of &quot;media&quot; and making ready to plunge back into the surging stream.  Thanks for the good wishes.  These podcasts are for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear PeggySue and Nick:  It&#8217;s not that we haven&#8217;t thought of moving to Seattle&#8230;  Jeff Hansen at KUOW was one of the original believers in Open Source and a sound guide.  (Before we started, he said: don&#8217;t be shy about aiming high and making it smarter than anything on radio.  He said the audience is aware that NPR isn&#8217;t as smart as it pretends to be or ought to be&#8230;)  The listening auidience turned out to be a wondrously expressive writing and commenting community; it was said real friendships, maybe even romances, blossomed among Seattle folk who knew each other only as listeners to Open Source.  We came to love everything about the town, including the Pacific outlook, the Mariners, the Koolhaas library, Jonathan Raban and the ferries across the Sound.  Don&#8217;t change a thing, and invite us again for a visit&#8230; but we&#8217;re hoping to work our way back to radio &#8212; yes, including KUOW &#8212; through this experiment in podcasting from the Watson Institute at Brown University.  Providence is not so different, and not so far, from Seattle.  It&#8217;s a smaller, New England version of your waterfront town, full of its own history and burning ambition to be heard in the world.  It is a community made for podcasting&#8230; for working on the distinctiveness of our voice and our thinking; for observing the transformations of &#8220;media&#8221; and making ready to plunge back into the surging stream.  Thanks for the good wishes.  These podcasts are for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90811</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: What about a one- or two-hour WEEKLY radio broadcast?  KUOW just might have space for that, perhaps, at 8PM (Pacific) on Mondaysâ€¦ ( http://www.kuow.org/schedules/schedule_week.asp )
Again, I canâ€™t speak for them.  But Iâ€™d be surprised (and dismayed) if you couldnâ€™t work out &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; kind of on-air arrangement.  
Double good luck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: What about a one- or two-hour WEEKLY radio broadcast?  KUOW just might have space for that, perhaps, at 8PM (Pacific) on Mondaysâ€¦ ( <a href="http://www.kuow.org/schedules/schedule_week.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.kuow.org/schedules/schedule_week.asp</a> )<br />
Again, I canâ€™t speak for them.  But Iâ€™d be surprised (and dismayed) if you couldnâ€™t work out <i>some</i> kind of on-air arrangement.<br />
Double good luck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90803</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy Sueâ€™s got a point about Seattle and its hinterlands.  Iâ€™ve no data to back this up, but, for what itâ€™s worth: the demographics out here in the Puget Sound region seem to have made the original on-air version of ROS quite the hit â€“ especially for its 9PM (Pacific) timeslot.  Now, I donâ€™t expect you to pull up stakes and migrate out here, but ponder this: that 9PM timeslot currently hosts reruns of KUOWâ€™s daytime shows â€“ which are already available as reruns via podcasts and streams on their website.

Sooooâ€¦if you can recreate another hour-long show (even if it means combining two or more 15-25 minute interview segments â€“ akin to your current podcasts), Iâ€™d like to think that KUOW might want to consider airing them at 9PM again.  No, I canâ€™t speak for them â€“ I can speak only as one of their listeners.  A listener who would prefer worldly, thoughtful, &lt;i&gt;original&lt;/i&gt; programming rather than those locally produced reruns.

Thereâ€™s really no substitute for the reach of an on-air presence.  That ancient 20th century technology called â€˜radioâ€™ still out-performs webcasts, etc. in attracting an audience.  And ROS was â€“ and remains â€“ simply PERFECT for Western Washington.
Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy Sueâ€™s got a point about Seattle and its hinterlands.  Iâ€™ve no data to back this up, but, for what itâ€™s worth: the demographics out here in the Puget Sound region seem to have made the original on-air version of ROS quite the hit â€“ especially for its 9PM (Pacific) timeslot.  Now, I donâ€™t expect you to pull up stakes and migrate out here, but ponder this: that 9PM timeslot currently hosts reruns of KUOWâ€™s daytime shows â€“ which are already available as reruns via podcasts and streams on their website.</p>
<p>Sooooâ€¦if you can recreate another hour-long show (even if it means combining two or more 15-25 minute interview segments â€“ akin to your current podcasts), Iâ€™d like to think that KUOW might want to consider airing them at 9PM again.  No, I canâ€™t speak for them â€“ I can speak only as one of their listeners.  A listener who would prefer worldly, thoughtful, <i>original</i> programming rather than those locally produced reruns.</p>
<p>Thereâ€™s really no substitute for the reach of an on-air presence.  That ancient 20th century technology called â€˜radioâ€™ still out-performs webcasts, etc. in attracting an audience.  And ROS was â€“ and remains â€“ simply PERFECT for Western Washington.<br />
Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: peggysue</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90800</link>
		<dc:creator>peggysue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mean... back on the radio?
But just not on KUOW out here in the Northwest?
I know I have not been paying attention but... is OS a podcast now or something?
I did fizzel out on Emerson before writing an intro to the essay on Prudence but I actually did send in my commentary on the Art essay complete with illustrations... oh well.
I guess I need to check the pod collector in my itunes.
I still think ya&#039;all should move to Seattle and be on KUOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean&#8230; back on the radio?<br />
But just not on KUOW out here in the Northwest?<br />
I know I have not been paying attention but&#8230; is OS a podcast now or something?<br />
I did fizzel out on Emerson before writing an intro to the essay on Prudence but I actually did send in my commentary on the Art essay complete with illustrations&#8230; oh well.<br />
I guess I need to check the pod collector in my itunes.<br />
I still think ya&#8217;all should move to Seattle and be on KUOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobo</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90719</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woot! just.... woot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woot! just&#8230;. woot!</p>
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		<title>By: zaxl</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90610</link>
		<dc:creator>zaxl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most awaited news! Let&#039;s see what this fresh air brings to the podcast.
Saludos,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most awaited news! Let&#8217;s see what this fresh air brings to the podcast.<br />
Saludos,</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Beaton</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90540</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Beaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So good to have you back online!

Looking forward to more rousing rambunctious conversation.

Lets go...there are important things going on.  Lets find &#039;em, talk about &#039;em, and then see if we can shake up the system!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So good to have you back online!</p>
<p>Looking forward to more rousing rambunctious conversation.</p>
<p>Lets go&#8230;there are important things going on.  Lets find &#8216;em, talk about &#8216;em, and then see if we can shake up the system!</p>
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		<title>By: igooding</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90484</link>
		<dc:creator>igooding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great News! I&#039;m eager to join the conversation. I always lurked before, but this announcement makes me want to dive right in and start contributing. My show suggestions: (1) OpenCourseWare and the open education movement; (2) scriptural authority across cultures; (3) the consequences of reduced regulation and oversight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great News! I&#8217;m eager to join the conversation. I always lurked before, but this announcement makes me want to dive right in and start contributing. My show suggestions: (1) OpenCourseWare and the open education movement; (2) scriptural authority across cultures; (3) the consequences of reduced regulation and oversight.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Dutton</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90414</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Dutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked Hilde&#039;s suggestion about 3x a week and an on-and-off-news-cycle mix. Consider that.

If Emerson were alive, would he say &quot;we don&#039; need no stinkin radio station&quot;? Would Ralph podcast sermons?

I&#039;m sorry, but I feel diminished by your abandonmdent, for whatever good reasons,  of radio. Without you in my kitchen in the evening, it will take more effort than I&#039;m likely to be able to get together to absorb your episodes.

Please comment regularly on what your work and its impacts are like witohut an FM channel. Lack of a live broadcast will definitely impair my connection and put me at a greater distance from your wor. For how many others of us might this be true? You should worry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked Hilde&#8217;s suggestion about 3x a week and an on-and-off-news-cycle mix. Consider that.</p>
<p>If Emerson were alive, would he say &#8220;we don&#8217; need no stinkin radio station&#8221;? Would Ralph podcast sermons?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I feel diminished by your abandonmdent, for whatever good reasons,  of radio. Without you in my kitchen in the evening, it will take more effort than I&#8217;m likely to be able to get together to absorb your episodes.</p>
<p>Please comment regularly on what your work and its impacts are like witohut an FM channel. Lack of a live broadcast will definitely impair my connection and put me at a greater distance from your wor. For how many others of us might this be true? You should worry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: bryongw</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90409</link>
		<dc:creator>bryongw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness that  didn&#039;t take as long as the last time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness that  didn&#8217;t take as long as the last time!</p>
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		<title>By: 0,0</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90380</link>
		<dc:creator>0,0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fabulous news.  I listen to numerous podcasts; Open Source is, hands down, my favorite.  Great topics, great guests, great host.  Keep &#039;em coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fabulous news.  I listen to numerous podcasts; Open Source is, hands down, my favorite.  Great topics, great guests, great host.  Keep &#8216;em coming!</p>
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		<title>By: pabelmont</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90220</link>
		<dc:creator>pabelmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
It&#039;s nice to see you are in business.
My topic for you (and others in your game) is:

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    Who&#039;s minding the store?  &gt;&gt;&gt;    How are we to mind the store? &gt;&gt; When you are driving your car at 100mph at a brick wall 1 mile away
                  and you have BRAKES but no steering wheel
                  YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO STOP
                   AND YOU HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT HOW TO DO IT
         &gt;&gt;&gt; similarly, we are going to stop using oil (in the way we now use it)
                 and we have a choice about HOW and WHEN we stop.
                 By human decision we could begin to stop now, but if we leave it
                 to &quot;human indecision&quot; and &quot;market forces&quot;
                 then we may leave it too late, 
                 because who knows how long it will take to implement
                   replacement infrastructure, cars, airplanes, military, ships
                   home heating (and maybe cooling), industrial uses,
                   plastics, fertilizer (if we really  must continue with it)
                   pesticides (if we really  must continue with them)
                 and OUR GREAT PLANNERS like GWB and his advisers show no
                 talent for being ahead of things.

      World Population (or did I mention that?)
      Goofy Political systems such as the USA&#039;s where
         its ALL market-driven
         (i.e,, who can BUY the politicians DOES SO)
      Nuclear Waste Storage or danger-reduction
      Total human population
MAKING PEOPLE SEE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN PARTS OF THE WORLD SYSTEM

Cheers,

Peter Belmont</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
It&#8217;s nice to see you are in business.<br />
My topic for you (and others in your game) is:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    Who&#8217;s minding the store?  &gt;&gt;&gt;    How are we to mind the store? &gt;&gt; When you are driving your car at 100mph at a brick wall 1 mile away<br />
                  and you have BRAKES but no steering wheel<br />
                  YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO STOP<br />
                   AND YOU HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT HOW TO DO IT<br />
         &gt;&gt;&gt; similarly, we are going to stop using oil (in the way we now use it)<br />
                 and we have a choice about HOW and WHEN we stop.<br />
                 By human decision we could begin to stop now, but if we leave it<br />
                 to &#8220;human indecision&#8221; and &#8220;market forces&#8221;<br />
                 then we may leave it too late,<br />
                 because who knows how long it will take to implement<br />
                   replacement infrastructure, cars, airplanes, military, ships<br />
                   home heating (and maybe cooling), industrial uses,<br />
                   plastics, fertilizer (if we really  must continue with it)<br />
                   pesticides (if we really  must continue with them)<br />
                 and OUR GREAT PLANNERS like GWB and his advisers show no<br />
                 talent for being ahead of things.</p>
<p>      World Population (or did I mention that?)<br />
      Goofy Political systems such as the USA&#8217;s where<br />
         its ALL market-driven<br />
         (i.e,, who can BUY the politicians DOES SO)<br />
      Nuclear Waste Storage or danger-reduction<br />
      Total human population<br />
MAKING PEOPLE SEE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN PARTS OF THE WORLD SYSTEM</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Peter Belmont</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90103</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 05:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mynocturama!  Potter!

back shop?  back shop!!!  What about the unveiling of:

&lt;b&gt;The Radio Open Source Institute for the Advancement of Emersonian Ideals&lt;/b&gt;

(sigh) Oh well!  I do hope, however, we can revive the Emerson conversations; I was disappointed when they fizzled out.  But like Potter said: &lt;i&gt;â€œthose dwindling few of us could not hold it up.â€&lt;/i&gt;  Zeke, Iâ€™d be up for connecting directly with others, however, if necessary.  Meanwhile, I have 250 Emerson Dolls that I was going to hand out at the unveiling.  You can pull a string and listen to pre-recorded messages: â€œDude, A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds!â€ or â€œDoes your heart vibrate to iron-strings?â€  Perhaps I can sell them on EBay :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mynocturama!  Potter!</p>
<p>back shop?  back shop!!!  What about the unveiling of:</p>
<p><b>The Radio Open Source Institute for the Advancement of Emersonian Ideals</b></p>
<p>(sigh) Oh well!  I do hope, however, we can revive the Emerson conversations; I was disappointed when they fizzled out.  But like Potter said: <i>â€œthose dwindling few of us could not hold it up.â€</i>  Zeke, Iâ€™d be up for connecting directly with others, however, if necessary.  Meanwhile, I have 250 Emerson Dolls that I was going to hand out at the unveiling.  You can pull a string and listen to pre-recorded messages: â€œDude, A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds!â€ or â€œDoes your heart vibrate to iron-strings?â€  Perhaps I can sell them on EBay <img src='http://www.radioopensource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90101</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray!!!</description>
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		<title>By: AM Son</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/as-we-were-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-90039</link>
		<dc:creator>AM Son</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome Back!!  My day became exponentially brighter with this news, and my podcast library and playlists feel whole again.  
I like Open Source regularity- covering wide ranging topics from the war in Iraq, N Korea, Chowhound, Emerson, non-fiction reading, spirituality and culture, etc, etc...  basically what you&#039;ve done in the past works for me!
Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Back!!  My day became exponentially brighter with this news, and my podcast library and playlists feel whole again.<br />
I like Open Source regularity- covering wide ranging topics from the war in Iraq, N Korea, Chowhound, Emerson, non-fiction reading, spirituality and culture, etc, etc&#8230;  basically what you&#8217;ve done in the past works for me!<br />
Thank you!</p>
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