At Home with Harold Bloom: (2) on the Humanities
By his own account, Harold Bloom has lost a step or two at age 77, after major heart surgery. His reading rate is not what it used to be, he says. In his early thirties, the basic Bloomian reading speed with a serious text was 1000 pages an hour; it might be less than half that today. Meaning that nowadays it could take an afternoon, not just the lunch hour, to consume War and Peace.
Click to listen to Chris’s conversation with Harold Bloom here (25 minutes, 11 MB MP3)
Harold Bloom, a Minton’s man
The great Hillel says: do three things. Be deliberate in judgment. Raise up many disciples. And build a hedge around the Torah.
My version of that is to say: Be deliberate in judgment. Teach many students, but make sure that they are never going to resemble one another or resemble you yourself in the slightest. That is to say, remember what Ralph Waldo Emerson tells us in Self-Reliance: “that which I can gain from another is never tuition but only provocation.” So even with my doctoral students, every class I’ve ever taught is pure provocation. It is an attempt to make them arrive at self-tuition. This was not true of my contemporaries. This was not true of the school of Deconstruction, or of the Marxists, or the Semioticians, or of the New Historicists, the Foucault-eyites which is what they are (they all follow Foucault). This is not true of the Lacanians. They all teach a method, and people do not become themselves, but they become Paul de Man, my old friend, but not someone of whom I could approve because as I told him: “you clone endlessly.” I have never cloned, I would never try to clone… Ah, the hedge around the Torah. The Torah is for me the Western Canon, and to some extent the Eastern one as well. And the hedge doesn’t mean a fence, or a high barrier such as the Israelis now in their desperation at living in a very bad neighborhood may yet have to put up around the whole state. It means an open sort of a thing. With a hedge it can always grow. It is a natural kind of a thing. Hillel is a very good guide…
Harold Bloom with Chris Lydon, at home in New Haven, Connecticut. Autumn 2007.
Thanks to Chelsea Merz for recording this interview, and to Paul McCarthy for editing it.
There’s more to come in Part 3.
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December 28th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
1000 pages an hour, uphill, both ways, in the snow…
December 29th, 2007 at 3:10 am
I am apparently a member of the school of resentment.
I recognize that the academy requires people to occupy the role of gatekeeper. However, I am less than comfortable with the idea of a rigid cannon. And I am downright uncomfortable with the idea of a rigid cannon with a solitary gatekeeper–especially when this one person has so little cultural connection to the populace at large. The literature of a society is reflective of the shared experiences of the people therein, as we become a more culturally diverse society the cannon must reflect that.
I have had a copy of the Western Cannon as compiled by Bloom (the 1994 edition) on my shelf since I was in high school and as a teacher I have frequently referenced it. However, as I have grown older and read more and more of my intellectual heroes: Orwell, Emerson, Dubois, Roth, Hitchens, and Baldwin it has become apparent that the cannon as visioned by Mr. Bloom does not represent me, nor does it include many people who resemble the kids I teach.
There is value in what Mr. Bloom dismisses scornfully as “multiculturalism”; there is value in exposing students from all walks of life to Cisneros and Hurston. Students from working class environments need to read the poetry of Dickinson and the transcendentalism of Emerson and the elite benefit from experiencing “Black Boy” and “Their Eyes Were Watching God”.
When Bloom writes in the Western Cannon of the “Chaotic Age” it sets off a certain tingle in my skin. The disruption of the status quo to those whom have had the position of rulemaker often appears to be chaotic. Yet to those struggling below it feels more like democracy.
Oh, and before anyone asks. No, I don’t read People Magazine.
December 29th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
I’m not sure I could even turn 1000 pages in 1 hour much less read them. But to pore over a loved work of literature with the realization that the precious hours of one’s life are being paid for this relationship is akin to hugging one’s daughter for as much of eternity as she and the gods will grant.
December 30th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
This interview stops oddly mid sentence. I wonder if that is intended.
I understand nbowling’s above and well said. Bloom has a view few have though. All in all I am glad that there is someone standing there firmly saying that this does not measure up. I don’t have to agree.
At the end when he figures out what to say for the article about Giovanni- he comes up with something perfect. He said “I am not yet competent to judge…” ( he was thinking “that garbage”)- but one can interpret that differently.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Who’s afraid of Harold Bloom? I am. He may not have saught clones but I aspired to such. Not de facto, since I was never a student of his although removed by one generation from two. I read most of his works (took me a few years) and even wrote an essay about him and a satire on his theories–all unpublished– although I sent him the latter which he said he enjoyed. That bucked me up no end. Oh, yes–Why afraid? Because one always kills one’s influencer, an act of parricide I would never wish to commit.