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	<title>Comments on: At Home with Harold Bloom: (3) The Jazz Bridge</title>
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		<title>By: Ty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must respectfully correct Professor Bloom with regards to his anecdote about Erroll Garner. He must have meant Art Tatum, not Garner, particularly considering Garner (b. 1921) was an exact contemporary of Powell (b. 1924) and Monk (b. 1917), while Tatum (b. 1909) preceded all of them; Tatum is also the pianist Horowitz went to see, according to every telling of that anecdote I&#039;ve heard. The point is still the same, regarding the &quot;anxiety of influence,&quot; but the exact name of the antagonistic antecedent Professor Bloom provided was incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must respectfully correct Professor Bloom with regards to his anecdote about Erroll Garner. He must have meant Art Tatum, not Garner, particularly considering Garner (b. 1921) was an exact contemporary of Powell (b. 1924) and Monk (b. 1917), while Tatum (b. 1909) preceded all of them; Tatum is also the pianist Horowitz went to see, according to every telling of that anecdote I&#8217;ve heard. The point is still the same, regarding the &#8220;anxiety of influence,&#8221; but the exact name of the antagonistic antecedent Professor Bloom provided was incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc McElroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc McElroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree he sounds a bit arrogant, but I guess when it&#039;s caused by being so undeniably brilliant, I have to excuse it.   

As for Jazz, the Bud Powell discussion lit me up.   From the first time I heard him, I have been confident that his music is just this side of devine.    His style of playing: hands turned in, incessent humming, and the neglect of left hand technique, coupled with the utter beauty of his playing coming through, just leads me to believe that the music is simply passing on it&#039;s way throw him from the sublime.    

Of course, maybe Bud Powell was just a screwy Junkie, and Bloom is a talky old jewish man, but I think brilliance is a better explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree he sounds a bit arrogant, but I guess when it&#8217;s caused by being so undeniably brilliant, I have to excuse it.   </p>
<p>As for Jazz, the Bud Powell discussion lit me up.   From the first time I heard him, I have been confident that his music is just this side of devine.    His style of playing: hands turned in, incessent humming, and the neglect of left hand technique, coupled with the utter beauty of his playing coming through, just leads me to believe that the music is simply passing on it&#8217;s way throw him from the sublime.    </p>
<p>Of course, maybe Bud Powell was just a screwy Junkie, and Bloom is a talky old jewish man, but I think brilliance is a better explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing, more or less apropos: anyone interested in jazz piano should give a listen to the Polish expatriate Adam Makowicz, whose technique rivals even that of Tatum. Two clips from YouTube here:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=adam+makowicz&amp;search=Search</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing, more or less apropos: anyone interested in jazz piano should give a listen to the Polish expatriate Adam Makowicz, whose technique rivals even that of Tatum. Two clips from YouTube here:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=adam+makowicz&amp;search=Search" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=adam+makowicz&amp;search=Search</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cwright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never commented on Open Source before but I have been enjoying your archive over the last few months and want to thank you particularly for everything you have done with Harold Bloom.  I am pretty sure I could listen to him forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never commented on Open Source before but I have been enjoying your archive over the last few months and want to thank you particularly for everything you have done with Harold Bloom.  I am pretty sure I could listen to him forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Hurley for that quote and I agree about Bloom. I&#039;m frightened by the sea and that may help me know why.  But your quote made me think of this one which may or may not have anything to do with the Brock except that it made me think of it-though I think it does.


Mystical dance, which yonder starrie Spheare 
Of Planets and of fixt in all her Wheeles
Resembles nearest, mazes intricate,
Eccentric, intervolv&#039;d, yet regular_
Then most, when most irregular they seem,_
And in thir motions harmonie Divine 
So smooths her charming tones, that Gods own ear_
Listens delighted.

John Milton, Paradise Lost
Book 5






&lt;i&gt;Eccentric&lt;/i&gt; meaning moving in an orbit that circles a point other than the main center earth; this eccentric center itself moves around earth, its planet describing a complicated spiral pattern. Eccentrics were modifications of Ptolemiac cosmology introduced to account for apparent anomalies in celestial motion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Hurley for that quote and I agree about Bloom. I&#8217;m frightened by the sea and that may help me know why.  But your quote made me think of this one which may or may not have anything to do with the Brock except that it made me think of it-though I think it does.</p>
<p>Mystical dance, which yonder starrie Spheare<br />
Of Planets and of fixt in all her Wheeles<br />
Resembles nearest, mazes intricate,<br />
Eccentric, intervolv&#8217;d, yet regular_<br />
Then most, when most irregular they seem,_<br />
And in thir motions harmonie Divine<br />
So smooths her charming tones, that Gods own ear_<br />
Listens delighted.</p>
<p>John Milton, Paradise Lost<br />
Book 5</p>
<p><i>Eccentric</i> meaning moving in an orbit that circles a point other than the main center earth; this eccentric center itself moves around earth, its planet describing a complicated spiral pattern. Eccentrics were modifications of Ptolemiac cosmology introduced to account for apparent anomalies in celestial motion.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloom&#039;s comments on Whitman sent me back to this passage by William Bronk:

Whitman speaks to the sea as a phantom in the night, as one who though knowing himself to be part of the universe and activated by desire, yet feels himself a still unspecified part, and feels a still unspecified desire. It was no personal and eccentric longing that made Whitman feel his kinship for the sea, but rather a feeling that both of them shared in some cosmic and elemental passion. On the beach at night alone, he had become aware of a vast similtude which interlocked all. All spheres, grown, ungrown, small, large, suns, moons, planets, all distances of place however wide, all distances of time, all inanimate forms, all souls, all living bodies though they be ever so different, or in different worlds, all gaseous, watery, vegetable, mineral processes, the fishes, the brutes, all nations, colors, barbarisms, civilizations, languages, all identities that have existed or may exist on this globe, or any globe, all lives and deaths, all of them past, present, future, this vast similtude spanned them, and always had spanned them and compactly hold and enclose them.

The Brother in Elysium, pp. 123-4 (reprinted in Vectors and Smoothable Curves)

I don&#039;t really mind Bloom&#039;s airs, his curmudgeonly take on contemporary academia, the sometimes pointless and improbable self-aggrandizing claims (1000 pages an hour, etc.-- remember the Woody Allen joke about speed-reading War and Peace), his occassionaly precious pronunciamentos. And I do I often disagree with him -- not that I&#039;m competent to, but I do anyways. But I find most of my perhaps over-weening misgivings redeemed by his great enthusiasm and advocacy for so much that is incontestably good. Listen to him read Wallace Stevens&#039; The Auroras of Autumn and you&#039;ll never forget it. So, many thanks as ever for another wonderful set of shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloom&#8217;s comments on Whitman sent me back to this passage by William Bronk:</p>
<p>Whitman speaks to the sea as a phantom in the night, as one who though knowing himself to be part of the universe and activated by desire, yet feels himself a still unspecified part, and feels a still unspecified desire. It was no personal and eccentric longing that made Whitman feel his kinship for the sea, but rather a feeling that both of them shared in some cosmic and elemental passion. On the beach at night alone, he had become aware of a vast similtude which interlocked all. All spheres, grown, ungrown, small, large, suns, moons, planets, all distances of place however wide, all distances of time, all inanimate forms, all souls, all living bodies though they be ever so different, or in different worlds, all gaseous, watery, vegetable, mineral processes, the fishes, the brutes, all nations, colors, barbarisms, civilizations, languages, all identities that have existed or may exist on this globe, or any globe, all lives and deaths, all of them past, present, future, this vast similtude spanned them, and always had spanned them and compactly hold and enclose them.</p>
<p>The Brother in Elysium, pp. 123-4 (reprinted in Vectors and Smoothable Curves)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really mind Bloom&#8217;s airs, his curmudgeonly take on contemporary academia, the sometimes pointless and improbable self-aggrandizing claims (1000 pages an hour, etc.&#8211; remember the Woody Allen joke about speed-reading War and Peace), his occassionaly precious pronunciamentos. And I do I often disagree with him &#8212; not that I&#8217;m competent to, but I do anyways. But I find most of my perhaps over-weening misgivings redeemed by his great enthusiasm and advocacy for so much that is incontestably good. Listen to him read Wallace Stevens&#8217; The Auroras of Autumn and you&#8217;ll never forget it. So, many thanks as ever for another wonderful set of shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This part reads better than it sounds- at least for me. I find Bloom very difficult to listen to-it&#039;s his tone of superiority. I have to get through that every time and in this section it was thick- a real turn off. I was offended not necessarily that he could not remember the name of his student who wrote ( a book or thesis) about this, but again the sense that I had that he did not need to. He was unapologetic.

Still, as I say all of this, Bloom gives a lot.  I should keep quiet and be a student.I am going to pull out my Hart Crane to those poems knowing a bit more about him.  Thank you.

on to Vendler.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This part reads better than it sounds- at least for me. I find Bloom very difficult to listen to-it&#8217;s his tone of superiority. I have to get through that every time and in this section it was thick- a real turn off. I was offended not necessarily that he could not remember the name of his student who wrote ( a book or thesis) about this, but again the sense that I had that he did not need to. He was unapologetic.</p>
<p>Still, as I say all of this, Bloom gives a lot.  I should keep quiet and be a student.I am going to pull out my Hart Crane to those poems knowing a bit more about him.  Thank you.</p>
<p>on to Vendler&#8230;..</p>
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