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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abrigal Forrester, thank you for the engagement.  Many guests of ROS say their piece and move on.  I hope you will recognize the foundation of &quot;wonder&quot; here (in this community of ideas) and revisit on other topics.



I also hope you will check out this post: http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-crisis/, his 12:51am post.  malcom z is a friend of ROS that first introduced the idea of personal responsibility to our present debate - you came along after and slammed down the hammer.



Let me emphasize something, I&#039;m a 33 year old white male, this message that you have graciously emphasized, transcends race and class - I will truly save this ROS podcast with your powerful message Abrigal, and I will play it for my future (I hope) children.  I can feel from your message, you are speaking to all of us - to all of humanity - you write &quot;right from wrong is not defined by culture or race it is defined by outcomes and consequences.&quot; Thank you.  I am truly inspired.



please post on the new &quot;race and prison&quot; thread.  Many of us have to reminded about the capacity we all have for change.  Also, if youâ€™re so inclined, please speak a word to the overt racism by white people, all around us.  Itâ€™s a virus in our hardware, and we need some ideas to dig it out.  Just because we recognize the critter that has buried itself in, doesnâ€™t make it that critter go away, we have to take a backhoe and dig that damm thing out â€“ and everyoneâ€™s pretty flowers might just have to go with it!



Abrigal, how are we going to get black people to vote their numbers?  What comes first, the black people voting or quality black people to vote for?



Also, if there is anything I can do for &quot;Strive&quot; please let me and everyone else know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abrigal Forrester, thank you for the engagement.  Many guests of ROS say their piece and move on.  I hope you will recognize the foundation of &#8220;wonder&#8221; here (in this community of ideas) and revisit on other topics.</p>
<p>I also hope you will check out this post: <a  href="http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-crisis/" rel="nofollow">http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-crisis/</a>, his 12:51am post.  malcom z is a friend of ROS that first introduced the idea of personal responsibility to our present debate &#8211; you came along after and slammed down the hammer.</p>
<p>Let me emphasize something, I&#8217;m a 33 year old white male, this message that you have graciously emphasized, transcends race and class &#8211; I will truly save this ROS podcast with your powerful message Abrigal, and I will play it for my future (I hope) children.  I can feel from your message, you are speaking to all of us &#8211; to all of humanity &#8211; you write &#8220;right from wrong is not defined by culture or race it is defined by outcomes and consequences.&#8221; Thank you.  I am truly inspired.</p>
<p>please post on the new &#8220;race and prison&#8221; thread.  Many of us have to reminded about the capacity we all have for change.  Also, if youâ€™re so inclined, please speak a word to the overt racism by white people, all around us.  Itâ€™s a virus in our hardware, and we need some ideas to dig it out.  Just because we recognize the critter that has buried itself in, doesnâ€™t make it that critter go away, we have to take a backhoe and dig that damm thing out â€“ and everyoneâ€™s pretty flowers might just have to go with it!</p>
<p>Abrigal, how are we going to get black people to vote their numbers?  What comes first, the black people voting or quality black people to vote for?</p>
<p>Also, if there is anything I can do for &#8220;Strive&#8221; please let me and everyone else know.</p>
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		<title>By: Abrigal Forrester</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-america-behind-the-numbers/#comment-72214</link>
		<dc:creator>Abrigal Forrester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to chime in on the comments made in regards to my opportunity to express myself about the pressing issues of Black men in America, and thank the listeners for their recognition and support as well as Chris Lydon for having me.  However, I would like to say:  the state of the black community has to be resolved not by concentrating on race but the real issue, â€œRESPONSIBILITYâ€?.  One of the greatest statements I have learned in my plight that has stuck with me is; &quot;God will never change the condition of a people or person, until they change the condition of their own souls&quot; Holy Quran.  What does this mean, it means that nothing will change for the Black community until the people of the community deal with and challenge the lost souls in the areas of themselves that have been tainted.  What happens outside of the community is secondary to what we as a community are now doing to ourselves.



Those of the community that have been rescued from the insanity have to get involved and educate themselves, so that we can begin to diagnose and rescue our people.  Individuals that are financially well off â€œin our communityâ€?, must begin to look at ways to finance the future of their race, and assist those in need of financial resources to create opportunity.  We have too many men and women that are wealthy to be waiting on grants.



The statement &quot;it takes a village to raise a child&quot; is needed now more than ever. It is not the fault of the youth that their futures are being destroyed because they are born into family situations that are not stable, or that they are looking for direction and find it in all the wrong places.  The true culture of Black people is one that valued the connection of all children with all the elders; so as to steer their future and make sure the child that did not have correct guidance still acquired what it is needed to become a functional adult.



Re-directing a community starts with (&quot;standing up for what is right even if it is against ourselves&quot;) right from wrong is not defined by culture or race it is defined by outcomes and consequences.  Everyday we all have to ask ourselves how much do I really care about humanity?



Once again Thanks to the listeners and the WGBH staff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to chime in on the comments made in regards to my opportunity to express myself about the pressing issues of Black men in America, and thank the listeners for their recognition and support as well as Chris Lydon for having me.  However, I would like to say:  the state of the black community has to be resolved not by concentrating on race but the real issue, â€œRESPONSIBILITYâ€?.  One of the greatest statements I have learned in my plight that has stuck with me is; &#8220;God will never change the condition of a people or person, until they change the condition of their own souls&#8221; Holy Quran.  What does this mean, it means that nothing will change for the Black community until the people of the community deal with and challenge the lost souls in the areas of themselves that have been tainted.  What happens outside of the community is secondary to what we as a community are now doing to ourselves.</p>
<p>Those of the community that have been rescued from the insanity have to get involved and educate themselves, so that we can begin to diagnose and rescue our people.  Individuals that are financially well off â€œin our communityâ€?, must begin to look at ways to finance the future of their race, and assist those in need of financial resources to create opportunity.  We have too many men and women that are wealthy to be waiting on grants.</p>
<p>The statement &#8220;it takes a village to raise a child&#8221; is needed now more than ever. It is not the fault of the youth that their futures are being destroyed because they are born into family situations that are not stable, or that they are looking for direction and find it in all the wrong places.  The true culture of Black people is one that valued the connection of all children with all the elders; so as to steer their future and make sure the child that did not have correct guidance still acquired what it is needed to become a functional adult.</p>
<p>Re-directing a community starts with (&#8220;standing up for what is right even if it is against ourselves&#8221;) right from wrong is not defined by culture or race it is defined by outcomes and consequences.  Everyday we all have to ask ourselves how much do I really care about humanity?</p>
<p>Once again Thanks to the listeners and the WGBH staff!</p>
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		<title>By: sidewalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidewalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 06:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be piling on, but nother and Jon Garfunkel are spot on. This show was great. The guests brought not just their idea but their hearts and their discussion pulsed with insight that few social science reports could match. Chris, please bring them back soon, how about for a show on parenting or on community organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be piling on, but nother and Jon Garfunkel are spot on. This show was great. The guests brought not just their idea but their hearts and their discussion pulsed with insight that few social science reports could match. Chris, please bring them back soon, how about for a show on parenting or on community organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the ROS staff, bravo!  I just listened to the podcast and I second Jon Garfunkel, this was truly your finest hour. (Although Iâ€™ve probably said that 4 of 5 times now and Iâ€™ll probably say it again next week).



Your could do a whole show just talking to Abrigal Forrester.  I would love to hear his take on other issues besides race, like maybe the Iraq war or if he is a chowhound and where his favorite grub is. The other gentleman were amazing as well, but Abrigal blew me away.  We have to keep tabs on this guy; I hope you will continue to give him a platform.



-His comparison to Columbine and how that school system dealt with the shooting was piercing.

-His elaboration on the lack of protection for young boys was insightful.

-His idea that he was so smart that he was stupid - he was using his intelligence in the wrong way.   His idea that he sees the leadership qualities out there on the street, they are simply misplaced.

-His statement about that separate value system ingrained in the street culture.

-His point about potential mentors having a fear of sharing their own weaknesses.



Ultimately, the lessons learned here transcended race and class, at least for me.



ROS, the program you provided here would not be found on Charlie Rose; Terry Gross will not be interviewing these three men anytime soon; the program you provided here was special and I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the ROS staff, bravo!  I just listened to the podcast and I second Jon Garfunkel, this was truly your finest hour. (Although Iâ€™ve probably said that 4 of 5 times now and Iâ€™ll probably say it again next week).</p>
<p>Your could do a whole show just talking to Abrigal Forrester.  I would love to hear his take on other issues besides race, like maybe the Iraq war or if he is a chowhound and where his favorite grub is. The other gentleman were amazing as well, but Abrigal blew me away.  We have to keep tabs on this guy; I hope you will continue to give him a platform.</p>
<p>-His comparison to Columbine and how that school system dealt with the shooting was piercing.</p>
<p>-His elaboration on the lack of protection for young boys was insightful.</p>
<p>-His idea that he was so smart that he was stupid &#8211; he was using his intelligence in the wrong way.   His idea that he sees the leadership qualities out there on the street, they are simply misplaced.</p>
<p>-His statement about that separate value system ingrained in the street culture.</p>
<p>-His point about potential mentors having a fear of sharing their own weaknesses.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the lessons learned here transcended race and class, at least for me.</p>
<p>ROS, the program you provided here would not be found on Charlie Rose; Terry Gross will not be interviewing these three men anytime soon; the program you provided here was special and I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-america-behind-the-numbers/#comment-72211</link>
		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allison, I will call you on that hug someday.  One of these days I would like to drop by your shop in JP and say hi.  I looked at your website http://www.circles-salon.com/ and I was very impressed.  You practice what you preach.  Too bad I don&#039;t knit - maybe if there was a TV I could watch the sox on :-)



Your words were very sweet and the pat on the back pushes me forward.  You are one of my ideal readers when I post, so thank you.  Whenever I scroll down a thread I stop at your name first.



I realized early on that there would be much smarter people posting on this site so I had to decide what I could contribute.  And I desperately wanted to contribute to this new venture, Chris and Mary contributed so much to me when they had the &quot;Connection&quot; I wanted to give back, even the smallest way.  So I said to myself, what can I offer that is original, and my answer was - me.  I can offer my unique view from my little perch and offer it in a sincere, humble, and thoughtful way.  I don&#039;t care if a reborn Einstein was blogging on this site, he wouldn&#039;t know what the view is from my little perch.  It&#039;s easy when posting to regurgitate something you heard on NPR earlier in the week, it&#039;s hard to look inside yourself and then expose what you find on a blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allison, I will call you on that hug someday.  One of these days I would like to drop by your shop in JP and say hi.  I looked at your website <a  href="http://www.circles-salon.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.circles-salon.com/</a> and I was very impressed.  You practice what you preach.  Too bad I don&#8217;t knit &#8211; maybe if there was a TV I could watch the sox on <img src='http://www.radioopensource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your words were very sweet and the pat on the back pushes me forward.  You are one of my ideal readers when I post, so thank you.  Whenever I scroll down a thread I stop at your name first.</p>
<p>I realized early on that there would be much smarter people posting on this site so I had to decide what I could contribute.  And I desperately wanted to contribute to this new venture, Chris and Mary contributed so much to me when they had the &#8220;Connection&#8221; I wanted to give back, even the smallest way.  So I said to myself, what can I offer that is original, and my answer was &#8211; me.  I can offer my unique view from my little perch and offer it in a sincere, humble, and thoughtful way.  I don&#8217;t care if a reborn Einstein was blogging on this site, he wouldn&#8217;t know what the view is from my little perch.  It&#8217;s easy when posting to regurgitate something you heard on NPR earlier in the week, it&#8217;s hard to look inside yourself and then expose what you find on a blog.</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nother, if we met, I&#039;d give you a big hug. You have a knack for making this very detached medium strike the heart with your expressions of your personal experience. Thank you.



I should, that as the most vocal critic of the use of the word community in relation to this ROS blog, I do find that I refer to the dialogues here often. My community of knitters is getting used to me interjecting sentences that begin with, &quot;I was participating in a thread on ROS the other day about this.....&quot;



The opportunity to attempt some form of articulation of my thoughts and feelings on meta-issues in life and receive feedback, counter-points, requests for clarification, etc. is definitely informing how I approach my daily life. It is a loop, where i have an outlet for things that roll around in my head but aren&#039;t pertinent to toss out during a mundane interaction while at the same time, enlivening a dialogue that I turn around and bring back to my mundane interactions.



Thank you ROS - staff, guests, and bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nother, if we met, I&#8217;d give you a big hug. You have a knack for making this very detached medium strike the heart with your expressions of your personal experience. Thank you.</p>
<p>I should, that as the most vocal critic of the use of the word community in relation to this ROS blog, I do find that I refer to the dialogues here often. My community of knitters is getting used to me interjecting sentences that begin with, &#8220;I was participating in a thread on ROS the other day about this&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>The opportunity to attempt some form of articulation of my thoughts and feelings on meta-issues in life and receive feedback, counter-points, requests for clarification, etc. is definitely informing how I approach my daily life. It is a loop, where i have an outlet for things that roll around in my head but aren&#8217;t pertinent to toss out during a mundane interaction while at the same time, enlivening a dialogue that I turn around and bring back to my mundane interactions.</p>
<p>Thank you ROS &#8211; staff, guests, and bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: dear deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-america-behind-the-numbers/#comment-72209</link>
		<dc:creator>dear deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that various Cultures contain varing versions of Post Traumatic Stress Disorders - that may be  passed on from Gereration to Generation.



Here are three stanzas from my poem &quot;. . . and what about OUR Children?&quot;

 A Prayer Poem for Peace - that seem to be appropiate to share



Why shouldn&#039;t a Child who witnessed

His Mother&#039;s or Brother&#039;s - Family or Friend&#039;s death when They got shot

from a &#039;neighborhood shooting&#039; in His Home

want to challenge Our Systems that did not work for Him. . . ,?

and roam. . ,

into another Culture in the &quot;Streets&quot; and create a Family/System of His own!

Becoming a Gang Member to feel safe and not alone.



The rules at School and Child&#039;s play

will no longer save or make sense of His day.

Don&#039;t expect Him to be able to concentrate on His books

because with out Traumatic Stress Treatment

He&#039;ll be focused on peripheral vision and a second look!!



We should not punish Him

or his Friends

for loosing Trust

yet work

with OUR Communities

and Government&#039;s systems

for New Solutions

towards Healing Traumatic Stress Syndroms

We ALL must!



. . . and what about OUR Children?





The long version of this poem - about Post Traumatic Stree Syndrom/Disorders being at Global proportions and other current issues will be on the internet soon and I will inform you All as to where. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that various Cultures contain varing versions of Post Traumatic Stress Disorders &#8211; that may be  passed on from Gereration to Generation.</p>
<p>Here are three stanzas from my poem &#8220;. . . and what about OUR Children?&#8221;</p>
<p> A Prayer Poem for Peace &#8211; that seem to be appropiate to share</p>
<p>Why shouldn&#8217;t a Child who witnessed</p>
<p>His Mother&#8217;s or Brother&#8217;s &#8211; Family or Friend&#8217;s death when They got shot</p>
<p>from a &#8216;neighborhood shooting&#8217; in His Home</p>
<p>want to challenge Our Systems that did not work for Him. . . ,?</p>
<p>and roam. . ,</p>
<p>into another Culture in the &#8220;Streets&#8221; and create a Family/System of His own!</p>
<p>Becoming a Gang Member to feel safe and not alone.</p>
<p>The rules at School and Child&#8217;s play</p>
<p>will no longer save or make sense of His day.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t expect Him to be able to concentrate on His books</p>
<p>because with out Traumatic Stress Treatment</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll be focused on peripheral vision and a second look!!</p>
<p>We should not punish Him</p>
<p>or his Friends</p>
<p>for loosing Trust</p>
<p>yet work</p>
<p>with OUR Communities</p>
<p>and Government&#8217;s systems</p>
<p>for New Solutions</p>
<p>towards Healing Traumatic Stress Syndroms</p>
<p>We ALL must!</p>
<p>. . . and what about OUR Children?</p>
<p>The long version of this poem &#8211; about Post Traumatic Stree Syndrom/Disorders being at Global proportions and other current issues will be on the internet soon and I will inform you All as to where. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: black8cat</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-america-behind-the-numbers/#comment-72208</link>
		<dc:creator>black8cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get angry when I hear black men complain of racism, yet thousand are extremely sexist!!  Christen men try to be the &quot;head of the home&quot;, which is degrading and sexist from a woman&#039;s perspective.  Snoop Dog and many more singers promote extreme sexism and female degradation.  Walk the talk!!!!  Respect women, and women will respect you!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get angry when I hear black men complain of racism, yet thousand are extremely sexist!!  Christen men try to be the &#8220;head of the home&#8221;, which is degrading and sexist from a woman&#8217;s perspective.  Snoop Dog and many more singers promote extreme sexism and female degradation.  Walk the talk!!!!  Respect women, and women will respect you!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Garfunkel</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-america-behind-the-numbers/#comment-72207</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Garfunkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 00:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Chris and the gang and the esteemed guests--

This was truly your finest hour.



(I&#039;ll see if I can summon the poet for words on the way home).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Chris and the gang and the esteemed guests&#8211;</p>
<p>This was truly your finest hour.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ll see if I can summon the poet for words on the way home).</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/black-men-in-america-behind-the-numbers/#comment-72206</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>( sorry for the typos but that&#039;s how I feel essentially,)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>( sorry for the typos but that&#8217;s how I feel essentially,)</p>
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