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	<title>Comments on: Citizen in Exile: Lincoln Chafee (Part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: ghostofdali</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostofdali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was most disturbing for me was that Chafee used to represent himself and his own convictions, rather than the interests of his party or even his backers.  In an age where all major political candidates are assumed to be stand-ins for the cronies who secured their political positions, Linc was a refreshing example of a man who can afford to think independently about issues.  As Potter said, he was appointed after the death of his father, and had the benefit of never having to run as anything other than encumbant.  In addition, Linc had strong support from his constituents, which meant that his allegiance to the usually overwhelming &quot;powers that be&quot; was minimal.  He was the kind of Senator who could be swayed by the opinions of the citizens of Rhode Island, even if they clashed with Washington.  And that&#039;s the major dissapointment, because that&#039;s exactly what he sacrificed by choosing to stay with a party that was so willing to hang him out to dry.



What we needed &quot;post-9/11&quot; was someone with the courage to protect the people of RI from the rabid hawks in Washington, and Linc chose to stand in line with them.  His votes and his &quot;label&quot; don&#039;t mean half as much as a Senate majority that would continue rubber stamping the president&#039;s reckless ventures and would also ensure congressional committees that would continue ceding power to the executive branch without question.



Whitehouse isn&#039;t much better, but at least his allegiance is to the other party.  Would GOP led hearings including questions about torture?  Would they be chasing Alberto Gonzales for his role in politically motivated firings?  Would the SCHIP bill have even made it to the president&#039;s desk?  And this business about calling the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization is troubling, but it was only a small part the bill.  Had he voted against it you&#039;d be hearing about how he voted down legislation on hate crimes, veteran&#039;s benefits, and water conservation.  He &#039;s not a perfect Senator, and may not even prove to be worth reelecting, but at least he didn&#039;t get in line behind the president&#039;s failing party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was most disturbing for me was that Chafee used to represent himself and his own convictions, rather than the interests of his party or even his backers.  In an age where all major political candidates are assumed to be stand-ins for the cronies who secured their political positions, Linc was a refreshing example of a man who can afford to think independently about issues.  As Potter said, he was appointed after the death of his father, and had the benefit of never having to run as anything other than encumbant.  In addition, Linc had strong support from his constituents, which meant that his allegiance to the usually overwhelming &#8220;powers that be&#8221; was minimal.  He was the kind of Senator who could be swayed by the opinions of the citizens of Rhode Island, even if they clashed with Washington.  And that&#8217;s the major dissapointment, because that&#8217;s exactly what he sacrificed by choosing to stay with a party that was so willing to hang him out to dry.</p>
<p>What we needed &#8220;post-9/11&#8243; was someone with the courage to protect the people of RI from the rabid hawks in Washington, and Linc chose to stand in line with them.  His votes and his &#8220;label&#8221; don&#8217;t mean half as much as a Senate majority that would continue rubber stamping the president&#8217;s reckless ventures and would also ensure congressional committees that would continue ceding power to the executive branch without question.</p>
<p>Whitehouse isn&#8217;t much better, but at least his allegiance is to the other party.  Would GOP led hearings including questions about torture?  Would they be chasing Alberto Gonzales for his role in politically motivated firings?  Would the SCHIP bill have even made it to the president&#8217;s desk?  And this business about calling the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization is troubling, but it was only a small part the bill.  Had he voted against it you&#8217;d be hearing about how he voted down legislation on hate crimes, veteran&#8217;s benefits, and water conservation.  He &#8216;s not a perfect Senator, and may not even prove to be worth reelecting, but at least he didn&#8217;t get in line behind the president&#8217;s failing party.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Allison!



You say: &lt;i&gt;&quot;What is wrong with people? He represented everything people said they were crying out for, but they couldnâ€™t get past the label.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;



Thank you Bush about the label ( and thank you  Nixon, Reagan and Bush father).  Label was all. From the start in office GWB was only a Republican and for Republicans.



Though Rhode Island is a reliably Democratic State, they have a Republican Governor (Donald Carcieri)  elected twice now. In the past they elected John Chafee, Republican, as Governor. As well they sent John Chafee to the Senate for 23 years before Lincoln Chafee took over upon his father&#039;s passing. So Rhode Islanders do not seem to be all that hung up on labels when it comes to a good man. But these times are different.



The only good way to send a message is through the ballot box. Chafee stood with and for Republicans who have done so much harm, taken this country so far in the wrong direction  these past few years. Enough people were mad as hell. As one of a handful, if that, of liberal Republicans in Congress, Chafee had what effect? What good was what he represented if he put himself in a box standing with and hence giving power to others who were against most of what he represented?



Unfortunately the label means everything. And &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/rep-kings-new-name-for-schip/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is what that label has come to mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Allison!</p>
<p>You say: <i>&#8220;What is wrong with people? He represented everything people said they were crying out for, but they couldnâ€™t get past the label.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Thank you Bush about the label ( and thank you  Nixon, Reagan and Bush father).  Label was all. From the start in office GWB was only a Republican and for Republicans.</p>
<p>Though Rhode Island is a reliably Democratic State, they have a Republican Governor (Donald Carcieri)  elected twice now. In the past they elected John Chafee, Republican, as Governor. As well they sent John Chafee to the Senate for 23 years before Lincoln Chafee took over upon his father&#8217;s passing. So Rhode Islanders do not seem to be all that hung up on labels when it comes to a good man. But these times are different.</p>
<p>The only good way to send a message is through the ballot box. Chafee stood with and for Republicans who have done so much harm, taken this country so far in the wrong direction  these past few years. Enough people were mad as hell. As one of a handful, if that, of liberal Republicans in Congress, Chafee had what effect? What good was what he represented if he put himself in a box standing with and hence giving power to others who were against most of what he represented?</p>
<p>Unfortunately the label means everything. And <a  href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/rep-kings-new-name-for-schip/" rel="nofollow">this</a> is what that label has come to mean.</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bully for Chafee. As someone who was looking for the Republicans to get a comeuppance in the last election, I was still shocked about his failed re-election bid. What is wrong with people? He represented everything people said they were crying out for, but they couldn&#039;t get past the label.



I&#039;m so glad to hear someone talk about disqualifying candidates based on their performance post-9/11. You can&#039; t have a better litmus test for leadership.





Keep up the awesome interviews, Chris.



Cheers, Allison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bully for Chafee. As someone who was looking for the Republicans to get a comeuppance in the last election, I was still shocked about his failed re-election bid. What is wrong with people? He represented everything people said they were crying out for, but they couldn&#8217;t get past the label.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad to hear someone talk about disqualifying candidates based on their performance post-9/11. You can&#8217; t have a better litmus test for leadership.</p>
<p>Keep up the awesome interviews, Chris.</p>
<p>Cheers, Allison</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was appalled to hear that Whitehouse voted for Liebrerman&#039;s resolution about the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was appalled to hear that Whitehouse voted for Liebrerman&#8217;s resolution about the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RR Anderson says: &lt;i&gt;I mean, what more do you need? &lt;/i&gt;



More folks commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RR Anderson says: <i>I mean, what more do you need? </i></p>
<p>More folks commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sutter, I agree. I read that Chafee also wound up voting for the Bolton nomination apparently against his better judgement.



It seems to me that he was wishing that the party was what it used to be when it had actually morphed almost totally into something that he found hard to support. And he was not going to change it almost single handedly. By leaving he might have made a dent. Yet he held on, stood with them, took their support, perhaps loved the attention too, but in the end it harmed him. It was as if he was burning his candle at both ends and calling it &quot;bi-partisanship&quot;. Compromise is essential, but on certain things one does not conpromise or you lose it all. He stood up against the war and that was good, He deserves the credit for that one but his timing was really off about leaving the party.



I really appreciate your post &quot;ghostofdali&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sutter, I agree. I read that Chafee also wound up voting for the Bolton nomination apparently against his better judgement.</p>
<p>It seems to me that he was wishing that the party was what it used to be when it had actually morphed almost totally into something that he found hard to support. And he was not going to change it almost single handedly. By leaving he might have made a dent. Yet he held on, stood with them, took their support, perhaps loved the attention too, but in the end it harmed him. It was as if he was burning his candle at both ends and calling it &#8220;bi-partisanship&#8221;. Compromise is essential, but on certain things one does not conpromise or you lose it all. He stood up against the war and that was good, He deserves the credit for that one but his timing was really off about leaving the party.</p>
<p>I really appreciate your post &#8220;ghostofdali&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostofdali</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostofdali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That election was a very difficult choice for us in RI.  Chafee had been a fine senator, and I&#039;m glad he continues to be an extraordinary man.  But his reasoning is still flawed, and perhaps it&#039;s because he&#039;s a man of good conscience that the reasoning caused his defeat.  He was clearly (and virtually self-describedly) bullied and intimidated into staying on a sinking ship.  Most of us in RI would say that had he run as an independent, he would have won the race.  Though Whitehouse has done well, particularly in the investigation of the Attorney General&#039;s office, I didn&#039;t feel particularly compelled to vote for him except for the fact that he was NOT a Republican.  Linc says that RI could have been punished by perhaps losing the highway funding or by BRAC, but those sound like hollow threats.  We have a very Republican governor who couldn&#039;t get his boat further up Bush&#039;s garbage canal if he tried, and the chance of truly damaging retribution seems slim to me.



Change is inherently difficult, as inertia is a deceptively powerful force, but when the reality that our current path and its field of possible outcomes are so clearly propelling our people and our nation to destruction, it is not the time to hold on to the status quo.  Chafee is a gentle man, he described his defeat as feeling like a &quot;punch in the gut,&quot; but that&#039;s what bullies do - you can take the punch and win or you can take the punch and lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That election was a very difficult choice for us in RI.  Chafee had been a fine senator, and I&#8217;m glad he continues to be an extraordinary man.  But his reasoning is still flawed, and perhaps it&#8217;s because he&#8217;s a man of good conscience that the reasoning caused his defeat.  He was clearly (and virtually self-describedly) bullied and intimidated into staying on a sinking ship.  Most of us in RI would say that had he run as an independent, he would have won the race.  Though Whitehouse has done well, particularly in the investigation of the Attorney General&#8217;s office, I didn&#8217;t feel particularly compelled to vote for him except for the fact that he was NOT a Republican.  Linc says that RI could have been punished by perhaps losing the highway funding or by BRAC, but those sound like hollow threats.  We have a very Republican governor who couldn&#8217;t get his boat further up Bush&#8217;s garbage canal if he tried, and the chance of truly damaging retribution seems slim to me.</p>
<p>Change is inherently difficult, as inertia is a deceptively powerful force, but when the reality that our current path and its field of possible outcomes are so clearly propelling our people and our nation to destruction, it is not the time to hold on to the status quo.  Chafee is a gentle man, he described his defeat as feeling like a &#8220;punch in the gut,&#8221; but that&#8217;s what bullies do &#8211; you can take the punch and win or you can take the punch and lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Sutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, Potter.  My mistake.  But as you recognize, the point still stands -- the idea that Chafee was going to be a Democrat with all the rights and privileges of a Republican in a Republican majority is silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, Potter.  My mistake.  But as you recognize, the point still stands &#8212; the idea that Chafee was going to be a Democrat with all the rights and privileges of a Republican in a Republican majority is silly.</p>
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		<title>By: RR Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, these stripped down shows are great.  I mean, what more do you need?  I&#039;m starting to miss the annoying leadin music less and less :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, these stripped down shows are great.  I mean, what more do you need?  I&#8217;m starting to miss the annoying leadin music less and less <img src='http://www.radioopensource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sutter-In 2004 Chafee  did not vote for Kerry ( did you mean to imply that?)- he wrote in the name of GHW Bush ( the father) ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Chafee) if this article is correct.







Why did Chafee vote to cut off debate on the appointment of Sam Alito to Supreme Court even  though he was afraid of how Alito would rule? see the above linked article again. It says only &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt;, did Chafee say what he believed:



&lt;i&gt;Chafee did not announce his opposition to the nomination until a majority of Senators had already publicly said they would support Alito.&lt;/i&gt;



from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183204,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fox news story&lt;/a&gt;:



&lt;i&gt;Sen. Lincoln Chafee on Monday was the first Senate Republican to announce his opposition to Alito&#039;s nomination to the high court. He said he was concerned about what he perceived as Alito&#039;s sympathetic stance on executive power in light of the administration&#039;s recently uncovered warrantless wiretapping program



Chafee, who is running for re-election this year and faces a more conservative Republican primary opponent, added that he feared Alito would be an enemy of reproductive freedom and the environment, and called himself a &quot;pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-Bill of Rights Republican.&quot;



Though Democrats who strongly oppose Alito&#039;s confirmation to the high court may have been cheered by Chafee&#039;s support, he said Democrats could not count on his help in blocking a vote.



&quot;How are we going to get anything done if we can&#039;t work together?&quot; Chafee asked after saying he would vote against a filibuster, a procedural move designed to prevent a vote on a nomination.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sutter-In 2004 Chafee  did not vote for Kerry ( did you mean to imply that?)- he wrote in the name of GHW Bush ( the father) ( <a  href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Chafee" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Chafee</a>) if this article is correct.</p>
<p>Why did Chafee vote to cut off debate on the appointment of Sam Alito to Supreme Court even  though he was afraid of how Alito would rule? see the above linked article again. It says only <i>after</i>, did Chafee say what he believed:</p>
<p><i>Chafee did not announce his opposition to the nomination until a majority of Senators had already publicly said they would support Alito.</i></p>
<p>from the <a  href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183204,00.html" rel="nofollow">Fox news story</a>:</p>
<p><i>Sen. Lincoln Chafee on Monday was the first Senate Republican to announce his opposition to Alito&#8217;s nomination to the high court. He said he was concerned about what he perceived as Alito&#8217;s sympathetic stance on executive power in light of the administration&#8217;s recently uncovered warrantless wiretapping program</p>
<p>Chafee, who is running for re-election this year and faces a more conservative Republican primary opponent, added that he feared Alito would be an enemy of reproductive freedom and the environment, and called himself a &#8220;pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-Bill of Rights Republican.&#8221;</p>
<p>Though Democrats who strongly oppose Alito&#8217;s confirmation to the high court may have been cheered by Chafee&#8217;s support, he said Democrats could not count on his help in blocking a vote.</p>
<p>&#8220;How are we going to get anything done if we can&#8217;t work together?&#8221; Chafee asked after saying he would vote against a filibuster, a procedural move designed to prevent a vote on a nomination.</i></p>
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