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		<title>By: Michael Cheneys Affiliate Millions - High Converting! &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Cheneys Affiliate Millions - High Converting! &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two relevant left-coast radio programs from this morning (3/17/06) that others in the country might wish to give a listen:

&lt;i&gt;To The Point&lt;/i&gt; â€œIraq Insurgency Still Strong Three Years after US Invasionâ€? @ http://www.kcrw.org/cgi-bin/db/kcrw.pl?tmplt_type=program&amp;show_code=tp



and KUOWâ€™s Weekday â€œEman Ahmad Khammas - What is it live in Iraq right now? Eman Ahmad Khammas knows. She is an Iraqi journalist and women&#039;s advocate visiting Seattle to share her first hand experience. What is her vision for the future of her country? What is it like to be a Iraqi citizen in the midst of war? Do Iraqi women have a different experience than the men? Is there way for peace to come to the region?â€?

@ http://www.kuow.org/weekday.asp

(After today, look for the â€˜Recent Showsâ€™ â€˜Choose a dateâ€™ drop-down box option)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two relevant left-coast radio programs from this morning (3/17/06) that others in the country might wish to give a listen:</p>
<p><i>To The Point</i> â€œIraq Insurgency Still Strong Three Years after US Invasionâ€? @ <a  href="http://www.kcrw.org/cgi-bin/db/kcrw.pl?tmplt_type=program&#038;show_code=tp" rel="nofollow">http://www.kcrw.org/cgi-bin/db/kcrw.pl?tmplt_type=program&#038;show_code=tp</a></p>
<p>and KUOWâ€™s Weekday â€œEman Ahmad Khammas &#8211; What is it live in Iraq right now? Eman Ahmad Khammas knows. She is an Iraqi journalist and women&#8217;s advocate visiting Seattle to share her first hand experience. What is her vision for the future of her country? What is it like to be a Iraqi citizen in the midst of war? Do Iraqi women have a different experience than the men? Is there way for peace to come to the region?â€?</p>
<p>@ <a  href="http://www.kuow.org/weekday.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.kuow.org/weekday.asp</a></p>
<p>(After today, look for the â€˜Recent Showsâ€™ â€˜Choose a dateâ€™ drop-down box option)</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Dodson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for not remarking for while, been busy like all you but will read and tyr and uphold my end or threads soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for not remarking for while, been busy like all you but will read and tyr and uphold my end or threads soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Weekday&#039;, KUOW&#039;s (Seattle NPR) best local show, devoted an hour this morning to the Iraq constitutional mess and the (mutter, mumble, whisper) &lt;i&gt;civil war&lt;/i&gt;.

http://www.kuow.org/weekday.asp

&#039;Weekday&#039; is usually excellent and its topics are often worthy of a national audience instead of just its Puget Sound regional listeners.

After today, the &#039;Civil War In Iraq?&#039; Weekday show will go into the show archives to the right on the page (called &#039;select a date&#039;); the date was March 9th, and it was the show&#039;s second hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Weekday&#8217;, KUOW&#8217;s (Seattle NPR) best local show, devoted an hour this morning to the Iraq constitutional mess and the (mutter, mumble, whisper) <i>civil war</i>.</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.kuow.org/weekday.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.kuow.org/weekday.asp</a></p>
<p>&#8216;Weekday&#8217; is usually excellent and its topics are often worthy of a national audience instead of just its Puget Sound regional listeners.</p>
<p>After today, the &#8216;Civil War In Iraq?&#8217; Weekday show will go into the show archives to the right on the page (called &#8216;select a date&#8217;); the date was March 9th, and it was the show&#8217;s second hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Winston: despite my shortage of time these days, Iâ€™d still like to read the part or parts of the 9/11 report relevant to Joe Wilson.  Iâ€™m not so fixed in my opinions that I canâ€™t admit that Iâ€™m wrong.



Iâ€™d rather my intellectual independence sometimes lead me astray into mistakenness than to relax and be an incurious dupe of the rightwing propaganda factory.



So, please let me know which part(s) deals with Wilson -- and thanks again.

See ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Winston: despite my shortage of time these days, Iâ€™d still like to read the part or parts of the 9/11 report relevant to Joe Wilson.  Iâ€™m not so fixed in my opinions that I canâ€™t admit that Iâ€™m wrong.</p>
<p>Iâ€™d rather my intellectual independence sometimes lead me astray into mistakenness than to relax and be an incurious dupe of the rightwing propaganda factory.</p>
<p>So, please let me know which part(s) deals with Wilson &#8212; and thanks again.</p>
<p>See ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, Winston, donâ€™t think we didnâ€™t notice the typical rightwing trick called â€˜if your argument is losing, redefine the debateâ€™.

Your premise that countries hosting US forces are wealthier became â€˜any land mass within range of US ICBMsâ€™ â€“ which include my penguin pals down in Antarctica!



Please understand that those of us standing well away from the rightwing circle of logic can easily see through its tricks â€“ even if the merry-go-roundâ€™s riders canâ€™t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, Winston, donâ€™t think we didnâ€™t notice the typical rightwing trick called â€˜if your argument is losing, redefine the debateâ€™.</p>
<p>Your premise that countries hosting US forces are wealthier became â€˜any land mass within range of US ICBMsâ€™ â€“ which include my penguin pals down in Antarctica!</p>
<p>Please understand that those of us standing well away from the rightwing circle of logic can easily see through its tricks â€“ even if the merry-go-roundâ€™s riders canâ€™t.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/civil-war-in-iraq/#comment-70314</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Too Much Democracy&lt;/b&gt;

This one just kinda tastes &lt;i&gt;foul&lt;/i&gt;, doesnâ€™t it?

Itâ€™s as old a ruling-class conceit as the country, though, and itâ€™s used all around the world by repressive regimes drawn from the governing elites as the primary excuse for their ignoring of the peopleâ€™s will.  Luckily, it is very easy to parse, and to afterwards debunk.

Starting with a definition of the fearful conceptâ€™s underlying bias:



Chauvinism:

1. Unwarranted bias, favoritism, or devotion to a particular group, cause, or idea.

2. &lt;b&gt;A bias in favour of the familiar&lt;/b&gt;. (My emphasis.)

History:  Chauvinism originally referred only to an excessive nationalism or patriotism, but its use has broadened. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Chauvinism



Its use has broadened indeed.  Nationalism and sexism are both chauvinism, but so are racism, speciesism, resourceism, and classism, to name but four.



Racism underpinned slavery, and, as a credible ideology, has been scientifically debunked.  Thus African-Americans are accorded full personhood, and not the 3/5â€™s written into our 18th century constitution.  The enfranchisement of African Americans significantly expanded democracy in the USA.  This expansion has enriched the nation by adding many brilliant minds to the national dialogue â€“ not to mention much of the worldâ€™s greatest arts and music.



Sexism: it was long believed that womanâ€™s capacity for rational thought was biologically impaired by emotiveness.  This has been scientifically debunked.  Yet even before science debunked the sexist doctrine, women in this country earned the vote, more than doubling democracy in the USA.

The addition of womenâ€™s voices to the national dialogue is every bit as significant as the addition of African-American voices.  This is in no small part because many more women seem to have greater capacity for &lt;i&gt;empathy&lt;/i&gt; than many or most men do, although this argument might be difficult to test empirically.  Nevertheless, dozens of patient and sympathetic contributions from bloggers like our very own Allison, Peggy Sue, and Potter suggest at least a tad of evidence for such an argument.  And frankly, empathy is a &lt;b&gt;virtue&lt;/b&gt;, not a flaw of any kind, at least not by any acceptable measure.  (Indeed, the GOP leadership would benefit immeasurably from a much bigger dose of it, imho.)



So what about classism?

How can we allow California-style ballot-measure democracy when the comparatively undereducated middle and lower classes can hardly be trusted to understand complex issues enough to vote sagaciously?  Isnâ€™t this a recipe for the catastrophic mobocracy the founders fretted over in the Federalist Papers and elsewhere?



Perhaps, but only in a &lt;i&gt;undereducated&lt;/i&gt; populace â€“ and even then one must ask the moral question: shouldnâ€™t any government founded on the democratic impulse allow for the possibility of a populationâ€™s self-destructive foolishness (ala ancient Athens)?

Whatâ€™s the point of preaching the virtues of popular self-determination if a populaceâ€™s elites are allowed to hold up their collective hands and say: â€œNo, no, children, you canâ€™t redistribute the political or economic power against your oligarchsâ€™ willâ€??

And as far as education goes, Swedes graduate from high school fluent in three languages â€“ Swedish, English, and an elective.  This opens the entire world to Swedes: they are one of the least ignorant populaces of the world because in a single year they can read vastly more viewpoints in more languages than most Americans ever will in a lifetime.



In other words, the only enduring foundation for this countryâ€™s entrenched classist resistance to greater democracy is our inadequate popular education â€“ which is obviously a product of governmental disinterest.

The simplest way to defeat this glaring conceit is to ponder the following: A liberally educated populace is &lt;i&gt;eminently qualified&lt;/i&gt; to determine its national policies and priorities with only minimal framing from political professionals.



Finally, for an American to cast aspersions on the democracies of other countries is not only ignorant but simply arrogant.  Swedes are vastly better able to gauge whether or not their parliamentary system is appropriate for their popular self-determination than any American republican.

They are, after all, &lt;i&gt;liberally educated&lt;/i&gt;.  They trust &lt;i&gt;one another&lt;/i&gt; â€“ and thatâ€™s what counts most.



In sum, the expansion of democracy is preferable because the more educated and curious minds a nation produces, the more innovative solutions that country will inevitably generate.

Democracy â€“ founded on liberal education â€“ not the trickery of self-justifying republican ideology, is the key to the furtherance of human progress and humanism.



Too much democracy?

No, not nearly enough of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Too Much Democracy</b></p>
<p>This one just kinda tastes <i>foul</i>, doesnâ€™t it?</p>
<p>Itâ€™s as old a ruling-class conceit as the country, though, and itâ€™s used all around the world by repressive regimes drawn from the governing elites as the primary excuse for their ignoring of the peopleâ€™s will.  Luckily, it is very easy to parse, and to afterwards debunk.</p>
<p>Starting with a definition of the fearful conceptâ€™s underlying bias:</p>
<p>Chauvinism:</p>
<p>1. Unwarranted bias, favoritism, or devotion to a particular group, cause, or idea.</p>
<p>2. <b>A bias in favour of the familiar</b>. (My emphasis.)</p>
<p>History:  Chauvinism originally referred only to an excessive nationalism or patriotism, but its use has broadened. <a  href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Chauvinism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Chauvinism</a></p>
<p>Its use has broadened indeed.  Nationalism and sexism are both chauvinism, but so are racism, speciesism, resourceism, and classism, to name but four.</p>
<p>Racism underpinned slavery, and, as a credible ideology, has been scientifically debunked.  Thus African-Americans are accorded full personhood, and not the 3/5â€™s written into our 18th century constitution.  The enfranchisement of African Americans significantly expanded democracy in the USA.  This expansion has enriched the nation by adding many brilliant minds to the national dialogue â€“ not to mention much of the worldâ€™s greatest arts and music.</p>
<p>Sexism: it was long believed that womanâ€™s capacity for rational thought was biologically impaired by emotiveness.  This has been scientifically debunked.  Yet even before science debunked the sexist doctrine, women in this country earned the vote, more than doubling democracy in the USA.</p>
<p>The addition of womenâ€™s voices to the national dialogue is every bit as significant as the addition of African-American voices.  This is in no small part because many more women seem to have greater capacity for <i>empathy</i> than many or most men do, although this argument might be difficult to test empirically.  Nevertheless, dozens of patient and sympathetic contributions from bloggers like our very own Allison, Peggy Sue, and Potter suggest at least a tad of evidence for such an argument.  And frankly, empathy is a <b>virtue</b>, not a flaw of any kind, at least not by any acceptable measure.  (Indeed, the GOP leadership would benefit immeasurably from a much bigger dose of it, imho.)</p>
<p>So what about classism?</p>
<p>How can we allow California-style ballot-measure democracy when the comparatively undereducated middle and lower classes can hardly be trusted to understand complex issues enough to vote sagaciously?  Isnâ€™t this a recipe for the catastrophic mobocracy the founders fretted over in the Federalist Papers and elsewhere?</p>
<p>Perhaps, but only in a <i>undereducated</i> populace â€“ and even then one must ask the moral question: shouldnâ€™t any government founded on the democratic impulse allow for the possibility of a populationâ€™s self-destructive foolishness (ala ancient Athens)?</p>
<p>Whatâ€™s the point of preaching the virtues of popular self-determination if a populaceâ€™s elites are allowed to hold up their collective hands and say: â€œNo, no, children, you canâ€™t redistribute the political or economic power against your oligarchsâ€™ willâ€??</p>
<p>And as far as education goes, Swedes graduate from high school fluent in three languages â€“ Swedish, English, and an elective.  This opens the entire world to Swedes: they are one of the least ignorant populaces of the world because in a single year they can read vastly more viewpoints in more languages than most Americans ever will in a lifetime.</p>
<p>In other words, the only enduring foundation for this countryâ€™s entrenched classist resistance to greater democracy is our inadequate popular education â€“ which is obviously a product of governmental disinterest.</p>
<p>The simplest way to defeat this glaring conceit is to ponder the following: A liberally educated populace is <i>eminently qualified</i> to determine its national policies and priorities with only minimal framing from political professionals.</p>
<p>Finally, for an American to cast aspersions on the democracies of other countries is not only ignorant but simply arrogant.  Swedes are vastly better able to gauge whether or not their parliamentary system is appropriate for their popular self-determination than any American republican.</p>
<p>They are, after all, <i>liberally educated</i>.  They trust <i>one another</i> â€“ and thatâ€™s what counts most.</p>
<p>In sum, the expansion of democracy is preferable because the more educated and curious minds a nation produces, the more innovative solutions that country will inevitably generate.</p>
<p>Democracy â€“ founded on liberal education â€“ not the trickery of self-justifying republican ideology, is the key to the furtherance of human progress and humanism.</p>
<p>Too much democracy?</p>
<p>No, not nearly enough of it.</p>
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