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I guess there is also “the Blue-winged warbler condition”, the difference is that blue-winged warbler doesn’t understand a lot about it, just like our learned friend Nick pretends not to

> Maybe “God” is the generalization for all the universe’s mysteries science has been demystifying for the past two and more centuries – and as the mysteries steadily recede

Maybe, for some. And science isn’t demystifying anything, it’s quite a mystery in itself. Like, what makes Zermelo-Fraenkel axioms correct? Nobody knows And without Zermelo-Fraenkel or similar set of axioms there would be no mathematics, therefore no physics, and no natural sciences as we know them. And for those brave positivists on this thread who demand definitions, the whole of mathematics is based on undefinable notions of sets and elements of sets.

Then there is the argument about the infinity of the Universe and finiteness of the human mind, both in informational/computational capacity and WRT temporal and spatial constraints. There is no chance humans will be able to understand but miniscule part of the Universe, infinitesimally small, if you wish… Thinkers like Nick might be as proud as they wish, but on Universe’s scale of things this is nothing, even less than nothing…

Interestingly, in these paragraphs I was playing devil’s advocate, these things should have been said by atheists, they are logical (and honest) conclusions from their premises. Instead they prefer to talk about steady pace of progress and other teleological things, which are by tradition religion’s domain. This is why I don’t believe they are atheists, they don’t believe in God in the sky, that’s true, but they believe in God in things (science, progress, rationality, civilisation, evolution, etc.) instead, not that it makes any difference…

For me, God and organized religions are to the universe as revealed by science as More Fun With Dick and Jane is to The Brothers Karamazov.

Most theists do not want God defined as a human invention (and here I paint with an admittedly broad brush) because for them God needs to represent something absolute, something which humans are not capable of attaining. They want something greater than themselves to give authority. If humans were good enough– human morality, human understanding, human power — then God wouldn’t be necessary. And an unnecessary god might as well be no god at all.

Evolution, for example, is perceived as a threat by some because it compromises God’s job description. They see God as having created humans with a special purpose, separate from that of the rest of material existence and not subject to its deterministic forces. If this depiction turns out false, then their idea of God, which suits a particular need, is in peril and the world seems meaningless. When it comes down to brass tacks, it’s not so much about whether God exists as what God is for. Again, our tendency toward teleology comes back to bite us in the arse.