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		<title>By: folks likw us radio program</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Seriously Simple Sums! Master Multiplication &#38; Division. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seriously Simple Sums! Master Multiplication &#38; Division. &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/donald-rumsfeld-survivor/#comment-73564</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 07:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another radio link rich with non-ideologically pre-filtered food for thought for Winston: http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/06/04/26.php#10249



&quot;10:00 -- &lt;b&gt;Disclosing Classified Information&lt;/b&gt;

A longtime CIA officer was fired for undisclosed contacts with journalists. We discuss classified information, First Amendment rights and federal espionage laws.

Guests:

-- Jeffrey Smith, rerporter, Washington Post

-- Jonathan Turley, professor, public interest law, George Washington University Law School

-- Anthony Lapham, attorney in private pratice, former general counsel to the Central Intelligence Agency&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another radio link rich with non-ideologically pre-filtered food for thought for Winston: <a  href="http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/06/04/26.php#10249" rel="nofollow">http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/06/04/26.php#10249</a></p>
<p>&#8220;10:00 &#8212; <b>Disclosing Classified Information</b></p>
<p>A longtime CIA officer was fired for undisclosed contacts with journalists. We discuss classified information, First Amendment rights and federal espionage laws.</p>
<p>Guests:</p>
<p>&#8211; Jeffrey Smith, rerporter, Washington Post</p>
<p>&#8211; Jonathan Turley, professor, public interest law, George Washington University Law School</p>
<p>&#8211; Anthony Lapham, attorney in private pratice, former general counsel to the Central Intelligence Agency&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one for Winston: http://www.theworld.org/latesteditions/04/20060426.shtml

&quot;&lt;b&gt;Political situation in Iraq&lt;/b&gt; (4:30)

Host Lisa Mullins speaks with Saad Jawad, professor of political science at the University of Baghdad, on the political situation in Iraq. Today Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld both paid surprise visits to Baghdad.&quot;



Click the speaker icon to hear the four and a half minute peice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one for Winston: <a  href="http://www.theworld.org/latesteditions/04/20060426.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.theworld.org/latesteditions/04/20060426.shtml</a></p>
<p>&#8220;<b>Political situation in Iraq</b> (4:30)</p>
<p>Host Lisa Mullins speaks with Saad Jawad, professor of political science at the University of Baghdad, on the political situation in Iraq. Today Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld both paid surprise visits to Baghdad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Click the speaker icon to hear the four and a half minute peice.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/donald-rumsfeld-survivor/#comment-73562</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;â€¦zzzzâ€¦zzzzâ€¦zzzzâ€¦&lt;/i&gt;



huhâ€¦?  whaâ€¦?



Oh.  Right.

Sorry, I drifted off while reading the posts above.  Something aboutâ€¦&lt;i&gt;predictability&lt;/i&gt;â€¦



Hereâ€™s my reply:

&quot;You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.&quot;  http://www.venganza.org/index.htm#announce



How convenient!

Whenever two events take place in a sequence, one can attribute the second event to the first.

For example, Jerry Falwell attributed 9/11 to God&#039;s hatred of Lesbianism.

And all those revolutions Winston cites above are just as due to the White House being inhabited by the current cast of ideo-savants as global warming is due to the diminution of piracy and 9-11 is due to Lesbianism.



This is called &quot;Correlation implies causation&quot; -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_implies_causation -- a subspecies of &lt;i&gt;logical fallacy&lt;/i&gt;: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy

&quot;Recognizing fallacies in everyday arguments may be difficult since arguments are often embedded in rhetorical patterns that obscure the logical connections between statements. Informal fallacies may also exploit the emotions or intellectual or psychological weaknesses of the audience. Having the capability to recognize fallacies in arguments will hopefully reduce the likelihood of such an occurrence.&quot;



From Wikipedia&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Correlation implies causation&lt;/i&gt;:

&quot;Another example:

Ice-cream sales are strongly (and robustly) correlated with crime rates.

Therefore, ice-cream causes crime.



&quot;This argument, and any of this pattern, is an example of a false categorical syllogism. One observation about it is that &lt;b&gt;the fallacy ignores the possibility that the correlation is coincidence.&lt;/b&gt; We can pick an example where the correlation is as statistically &quot;robust&quot; as we please, but we still cannot assume one factor causes the other.



(You might also like to know that stepping on a sidewalk crack will break your mother&#039;s back.  Now, if I could just find a roadway whose concrete joints are responsible for Republican-leadership backs...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>â€¦zzzzâ€¦zzzzâ€¦zzzzâ€¦</i></p>
<p>huhâ€¦?  whaâ€¦?</p>
<p>Oh.  Right.</p>
<p>Sorry, I drifted off while reading the posts above.  Something aboutâ€¦<i>predictability</i>â€¦</p>
<p>Hereâ€™s my reply:</p>
<p>&#8220;You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.&#8221;  <a  href="http://www.venganza.org/index.htm#announce" rel="nofollow">http://www.venganza.org/index.htm#announce</a></p>
<p>How convenient!</p>
<p>Whenever two events take place in a sequence, one can attribute the second event to the first.</p>
<p>For example, Jerry Falwell attributed 9/11 to God&#8217;s hatred of Lesbianism.</p>
<p>And all those revolutions Winston cites above are just as due to the White House being inhabited by the current cast of ideo-savants as global warming is due to the diminution of piracy and 9-11 is due to Lesbianism.</p>
<p>This is called &#8220;Correlation implies causation&#8221; &#8212; <a  href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_implies_causation" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_implies_causation</a> &#8212; a subspecies of <i>logical fallacy</i>: <a  href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Recognizing fallacies in everyday arguments may be difficult since arguments are often embedded in rhetorical patterns that obscure the logical connections between statements. Informal fallacies may also exploit the emotions or intellectual or psychological weaknesses of the audience. Having the capability to recognize fallacies in arguments will hopefully reduce the likelihood of such an occurrence.&#8221;</p>
<p>From Wikipedia&#8217;s <i>Correlation implies causation</i>:</p>
<p>&#8220;Another example:</p>
<p>Ice-cream sales are strongly (and robustly) correlated with crime rates.</p>
<p>Therefore, ice-cream causes crime.</p>
<p>&#8220;This argument, and any of this pattern, is an example of a false categorical syllogism. One observation about it is that <b>the fallacy ignores the possibility that the correlation is coincidence.</b> We can pick an example where the correlation is as statistically &#8220;robust&#8221; as we please, but we still cannot assume one factor causes the other.</p>
<p>(You might also like to know that stepping on a sidewalk crack will break your mother&#8217;s back.  Now, if I could just find a roadway whose concrete joints are responsible for Republican-leadership backs&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sarge</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/donald-rumsfeld-survivor/#comment-73561</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winston, You are right and no one here is ever going to admit it,  You have an intelligent point of view and they throw pies in response.  Keep up the good work.  We need you to balance out all the emoptional crap flying around here all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winston, You are right and no one here is ever going to admit it,  You have an intelligent point of view and they throw pies in response.  Keep up the good work.  We need you to balance out all the emoptional crap flying around here all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston_new</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/donald-rumsfeld-survivor/#comment-73560</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston_new</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Time and again, the US officials including President George Bush, have been stating the twin concerns they have regarding Nepal â€“ the rise of terrorism and fall of democracy. The succinct remarks President Bush made in New Delhi in early march underlines the basis of the American policy towards Nepal . â€œOn Nepal , we agreed that the Maoists should abandon violence and that the King should reach out to political parties to restore democratic institutions,â€? Bush said in a joint press conference accompanied by Indian Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh in Hyderabad House, New Delhi .



Following Bush statement, Camp arrived in Kathmandu to relay the message to Nepalese domestic political actors including the parties and the King.



â€œThe United States â€™ primary objectives in Nepal are the restoration of multi-party democracy and the prevention of a Maoist takeover. We believe that reconciliation between the King and the political parties, and a return to democracy is the only path toward an effective counter-insurgency strategy and the restoration of security, government services, exercise of political rights, and respect for human rights,â€? Camp stated before the House Committee in Washington . &quot;



http://peacejournalism.com/ReadArticle.asp?ArticleID=8200</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Time and again, the US officials including President George Bush, have been stating the twin concerns they have regarding Nepal â€“ the rise of terrorism and fall of democracy. The succinct remarks President Bush made in New Delhi in early march underlines the basis of the American policy towards Nepal . â€œOn Nepal , we agreed that the Maoists should abandon violence and that the King should reach out to political parties to restore democratic institutions,â€? Bush said in a joint press conference accompanied by Indian Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh in Hyderabad House, New Delhi .</p>
<p>Following Bush statement, Camp arrived in Kathmandu to relay the message to Nepalese domestic political actors including the parties and the King.</p>
<p>â€œThe United States â€™ primary objectives in Nepal are the restoration of multi-party democracy and the prevention of a Maoist takeover. We believe that reconciliation between the King and the political parties, and a return to democracy is the only path toward an effective counter-insurgency strategy and the restoration of security, government services, exercise of political rights, and respect for human rights,â€? Camp stated before the House Committee in Washington . &#8221;</p>
<p><a  href="http://peacejournalism.com/ReadArticle.asp?ArticleID=8200" rel="nofollow">http://peacejournalism.com/ReadArticle.asp?ArticleID=8200</a></p>
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		<title>By: Winston_new</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston_new</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is some info on Ukraine&#039;s Orange Revolution



&quot;by Tatiana Silana



It was really emotional: Bush smiling warmly and amicably at Yushchenko (and only once in a while at pretty Ukrainian journalists); Yushchenkoâ€™s spouse conversing at ease with Laura Bush; Russian journalists applauding violently; Rumsfeld looking very glad; Cheney wearing an orange tie; . . . &quot;



&quot;Not only members of the Ukrainian delegation, but also the U.S. and European press called the visit Yushchenkoâ€™s and Ukraineâ€™s triumph.&quot;



&quot;The Orange Revolution does not only belong to Ukraine. To many nations, it is an inspiring example of how to defend civil rights and win without any violence. The Ukrainian revolution was really unique, &quot;



&quot;This fact is extremely important for the United States. Condoleezza Rice and Richard Cheney said once that â€œthe USA won the cold war on an ideological basisâ€?. The victorious Ukrainian revolution has set a new example that the United States means to use in Lebanon, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other countries with early signs of nascent democracy. The USA regards Ukraine as a potential regional leader, capable of facilitating security and promoting democratic values in the region. Therefore, if Ukraine succeeds, it will not be only Ukraineâ€™s success. &quot;

&quot;The joint declaration signed by Yushchenko and Bush contains the following paragraph: â€œWe undertake to cooperate in supporting reforms, democracy, tolerance, and respect for all communities, as well as in peacefully resolving the conflicts in Georgia and Moldova, and to support the advancement of freedom in such countries as Belarus and Cuba.â€?



http://www.orangerevolution.us/blog/_archives/2005/4/11/571496.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is some info on Ukraine&#8217;s Orange Revolution</p>
<p>&#8220;by Tatiana Silana</p>
<p>It was really emotional: Bush smiling warmly and amicably at Yushchenko (and only once in a while at pretty Ukrainian journalists); Yushchenkoâ€™s spouse conversing at ease with Laura Bush; Russian journalists applauding violently; Rumsfeld looking very glad; Cheney wearing an orange tie; . . . &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Not only members of the Ukrainian delegation, but also the U.S. and European press called the visit Yushchenkoâ€™s and Ukraineâ€™s triumph.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Orange Revolution does not only belong to Ukraine. To many nations, it is an inspiring example of how to defend civil rights and win without any violence. The Ukrainian revolution was really unique, &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This fact is extremely important for the United States. Condoleezza Rice and Richard Cheney said once that â€œthe USA won the cold war on an ideological basisâ€?. The victorious Ukrainian revolution has set a new example that the United States means to use in Lebanon, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other countries with early signs of nascent democracy. The USA regards Ukraine as a potential regional leader, capable of facilitating security and promoting democratic values in the region. Therefore, if Ukraine succeeds, it will not be only Ukraineâ€™s success. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The joint declaration signed by Yushchenko and Bush contains the following paragraph: â€œWe undertake to cooperate in supporting reforms, democracy, tolerance, and respect for all communities, as well as in peacefully resolving the conflicts in Georgia and Moldova, and to support the advancement of freedom in such countries as Belarus and Cuba.â€?</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.orangerevolution.us/blog/_archives/2005/4/11/571496.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.orangerevolution.us/blog/_archives/2005/4/11/571496.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Winston_new</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston_new</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do a little research re: the democracy movement in Nepal but here is some on the recent Cedar Revolution in Lebanon. I&#039;ll others decide who is claiming what&quot;



The leader of the Lebanese opposition, a sharp critic of Washington foreign policy, says he&#039;s changed his view of the U.S. war in Iraq, seeing it now as a catalyst for democratic change across the Arab world.



&quot;It&#039;s strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq. I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world&quot;



http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43010</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do a little research re: the democracy movement in Nepal but here is some on the recent Cedar Revolution in Lebanon. I&#8217;ll others decide who is claiming what&#8221;</p>
<p>The leader of the Lebanese opposition, a sharp critic of Washington foreign policy, says he&#8217;s changed his view of the U.S. war in Iraq, seeing it now as a catalyst for democratic change across the Arab world.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq. I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world&#8221;</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43010" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43010</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/donald-rumsfeld-survivor/#comment-73557</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winston, I hope your ideology&#039;s latest permutations don&#039;t fantastically claim a role for Dubya and his ilk in this:

http://www.radioopensource.org/striking-for-democracy-in-nepal/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winston, I hope your ideology&#8217;s latest permutations don&#8217;t fantastically claim a role for Dubya and his ilk in this:</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.radioopensource.org/striking-for-democracy-in-nepal/" rel="nofollow">http://www.radioopensource.org/striking-for-democracy-in-nepal/</a></p>
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