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	<title>Comments on: Edna O&#8217;Brien</title>
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	<description>Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics</description>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This lovely lady, was way a head of her time... And she was punished in the past for being real.</description>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-165978</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi , I am looking for an email address for Edna O&#039; Brien the author...I want to make contact with this lovely lady.
I would be very greatful if you could forward on her email address please. Thank You. Marie Fitzpatrick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi , I am looking for an email address for Edna O&#8217; Brien the author&#8230;I want to make contact with this lovely lady.<br />
I would be very greatful if you could forward on her email address please. Thank You. Marie Fitzpatrick.</p>
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		<title>By: jds</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-34520</link>
		<dc:creator>jds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serendipity at its best. I happened to recently pick up a copy of O&#039;Brien&#039;s Joyce bio at my favorite second-hand book store, and immensely enjoyed her cystalline clarity and incandescent sensibility. Her prose is so shiney, i can clearly see my reflection in it. And then i bopped on to this site tonight because I was googling to find out more about her, and was terriby unaware of her former literary output. And how on earth, could she have been born some 10 years before I was??!! I relish te prospect of reading her work. 
This was my favorite blog experience ever. Thanks for sharing the exchange from a week ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serendipity at its best. I happened to recently pick up a copy of O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s Joyce bio at my favorite second-hand book store, and immensely enjoyed her cystalline clarity and incandescent sensibility. Her prose is so shiney, i can clearly see my reflection in it. And then i bopped on to this site tonight because I was googling to find out more about her, and was terriby unaware of her former literary output. And how on earth, could she have been born some 10 years before I was??!! I relish te prospect of reading her work.<br />
This was my favorite blog experience ever. Thanks for sharing the exchange from a week ago.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33841</link>
		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved O&#039;Brien&#039;s invocation of Wordsworth. 

Yes, all introspective art is emotion recollected. Wordsworth said tranquility but I believe that he also meant distance in time and space, or at least in isolation. 

Joyce used to say that while he physically left Dublin it was always alive in his mind. He also wrote that if Dublin were to be destroyed it could be reconstruced from his work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s invocation of Wordsworth. </p>
<p>Yes, all introspective art is emotion recollected. Wordsworth said tranquility but I believe that he also meant distance in time and space, or at least in isolation. </p>
<p>Joyce used to say that while he physically left Dublin it was always alive in his mind. He also wrote that if Dublin were to be destroyed it could be reconstruced from his work.</p>
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		<title>By: peggy sue</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33806</link>
		<dc:creator>peggy sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Light of Evening&lt;/i&gt; arrived at the bookstore where I work today and I managed to steal into a few pages. I found them not so purple but multi-colored with a sheen with perhaps some lurking violet laced shadows.

I am listening to the show now with great appreciation. Thanks!

I too love the literature programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Light of Evening</i> arrived at the bookstore where I work today and I managed to steal into a few pages. I found them not so purple but multi-colored with a sheen with perhaps some lurking violet laced shadows.</p>
<p>I am listening to the show now with great appreciation. Thanks!</p>
<p>I too love the literature programs.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33796</link>
		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great show.

I loved O&#039;Brien&#039;s passion for her work and Chris&#039; passion about literature. 

I would love to hear more programs on literature, of all kinds: poetry, fiction, drama.</description>
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<p>I loved O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s passion for her work and Chris&#8217; passion about literature. </p>
<p>I would love to hear more programs on literature, of all kinds: poetry, fiction, drama.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33780</link>
		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an interesting quote from The Atlantic:

&quot;After reading Wild Decembers Philip Roth told O&#039;Brien that although he&#039;d always thought of her as being like that other &quot;passionate&quot; literary lady, Collette, he&#039;d changed his mind. &quot;You&#039;re not like Collette after all,&quot; he&#039;d decided. &quot;You&#039;re more like Faulkner.&quot; As it turns out, William Faulkner is second only to James Joyce in O&#039;Brien&#039;s personal pantheon; Wild Decembers has in it echoes of both writers.&quot;

http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/interviews/ba2000-04-20.htm

This is quite an endorsement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an interesting quote from The Atlantic:</p>
<p>&#8220;After reading Wild Decembers Philip Roth told O&#8217;Brien that although he&#8217;d always thought of her as being like that other &#8220;passionate&#8221; literary lady, Collette, he&#8217;d changed his mind. &#8220;You&#8217;re not like Collette after all,&#8221; he&#8217;d decided. &#8220;You&#8217;re more like Faulkner.&#8221; As it turns out, William Faulkner is second only to James Joyce in O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s personal pantheon; Wild Decembers has in it echoes of both writers.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/interviews/ba2000-04-20.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/interviews/ba2000-04-20.htm</a></p>
<p>This is quite an endorsement.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy Sue, I meant to answer your question but got derailed by work.

I haven&#039;t read any fiction by O&#039;Brien yet, but juding from work on Joyce and Beckett I have a problem visualizing her as a writer of purple prose. If she does deploy emotionally tinged descrpitive passages she is probably being ironic or describing event from a character&#039;s point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy Sue, I meant to answer your question but got derailed by work.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read any fiction by O&#8217;Brien yet, but juding from work on Joyce and Beckett I have a problem visualizing her as a writer of purple prose. If she does deploy emotionally tinged descrpitive passages she is probably being ironic or describing event from a character&#8217;s point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue @ work</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33775</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue @ work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to answer my own question I went to Dictionary.com...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/empurpled

empurpled

adj : excessively elaborate or showily expressed; &quot;a writer of empurpled literature&quot;; &quot;many purple passages&quot;; &quot;speech embellished with classical quotations&quot;; &quot;an over-embellished story of the fish that got away&quot; [syn: embellished, over-embellished, purple] n : a chromatic color between red and blue [syn: purple, purpleness]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to answer my own question I went to Dictionary.com&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/empurpled" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/empurpled</a></p>
<p>empurpled</p>
<p>adj : excessively elaborate or showily expressed; &#8220;a writer of empurpled literature&#8221;; &#8220;many purple passages&#8221;; &#8220;speech embellished with classical quotations&#8221;; &#8220;an over-embellished story of the fish that got away&#8221; [syn: embellished, over-embellished, purple] n : a chromatic color between red and blue [syn: purple, purpleness]</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:

I would like to know how Oâ€™Brienâ€™s reads Philip Roth. Does she see him as a comic writer or as a tragic one who only came into his own only in his latest novels? 

 

btw: I first became aware of Edna O&#039;Brien&#039;s writing through Philip Roth.</description>
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<p>I would like to know how Oâ€™Brienâ€™s reads Philip Roth. Does she see him as a comic writer or as a tragic one who only came into his own only in his latest novels? </p>
<p>btw: I first became aware of Edna O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s writing through Philip Roth.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33767</link>
		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know what how O&#039;Brien&#039;s reads Philip Roth. Dies she see him as a comic writer or as a tragic one who only came into his own in his latest novels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know what how O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s reads Philip Roth. Dies she see him as a comic writer or as a tragic one who only came into his own in his latest novels?</p>
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		<title>By: peggy sue</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33766</link>
		<dc:creator>peggy sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Credit: The review mentioned above in the NYT is by ERICA WAGNER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit: The review mentioned above in the NYT is by ERICA WAGNER.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33765</link>
		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This beautifully written sentence captures the essence of Beckett&#039;s art:


&quot;Much is made of Beckett&#039;s despairingness, his Cartesian soul nailed to its Cartesian cross, yet he is not a depressing writer, not depressing in the way Henri de Montherlant or Thomas Bernhard can be, because, as with Shakespeare, his darkest words are shot through with beauty and astonishment, his impassioned keenings the best witness that there is to the human plaint, his disgusts brimful with exhilaration. He was a maniac who managed with consummate skill to convert that mania into lasting poetry.&quot;


I would only add that as in Shakespeare&#039;s work even in its expression of the darkest despair there is in Beckett also a comedic sense which  like a sunray cuts through the gloom and makes us observe with the Stratford poet that as long as one can say that this is the worse, then it&#039;s not the worse. 

I can&#039;t remember Shakespeareâ€™s exact quote, but I have always felt that the sentiment was the source of his deep understanding of the human comedy. 


The same is true with Beckett who rephrases Shakespeare&#039;s lines in his magnificent, &quot;I can&#039;t go on, I will go on.&quot;

I also very much agree with Oâ€Brienâ€™s view that Henri de Montherlant or Thomas Bernhard are thoroughly depressing. They are also a couple of reactionary writers who are unreadable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This beautifully written sentence captures the essence of Beckett&#8217;s art:</p>
<p>&#8220;Much is made of Beckett&#8217;s despairingness, his Cartesian soul nailed to its Cartesian cross, yet he is not a depressing writer, not depressing in the way Henri de Montherlant or Thomas Bernhard can be, because, as with Shakespeare, his darkest words are shot through with beauty and astonishment, his impassioned keenings the best witness that there is to the human plaint, his disgusts brimful with exhilaration. He was a maniac who managed with consummate skill to convert that mania into lasting poetry.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would only add that as in Shakespeare&#8217;s work even in its expression of the darkest despair there is in Beckett also a comedic sense which  like a sunray cuts through the gloom and makes us observe with the Stratford poet that as long as one can say that this is the worse, then it&#8217;s not the worse. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember Shakespeareâ€™s exact quote, but I have always felt that the sentiment was the source of his deep understanding of the human comedy. </p>
<p>The same is true with Beckett who rephrases Shakespeare&#8217;s lines in his magnificent, &#8220;I can&#8217;t go on, I will go on.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also very much agree with Oâ€Brienâ€™s view that Henri de Montherlant or Thomas Bernhard are thoroughly depressing. They are also a couple of reactionary writers who are unreadable.</p>
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		<title>By: peggy sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>peggy sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a review of &lt;i&gt;The Light of Evening&lt;/i&gt; in this weeks Sunday NYT Book Review. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/books/reviewWagner.t.html_r=1&amp;ref=books&amp;oref=slogin

Not quite as generous in praise as the comments above: here&#039;s a quote...

&lt;i&gt;From her first novel, â€œThe Country Girlsâ€ (1960), onward, she has had the nerve to look unflinchingly into the eyes of passion; if itâ€™s possible to accuse the result of being faux-Joycean, empurpled, itâ€™s also possible to feel, more often than is comfortable, that with her breathless force she truly conveys the destabilizing agitation some call romance.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen the word &quot;empurpled&quot; before. I&#039;m not quite sure what it means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a review of <i>The Light of Evening</i> in this weeks Sunday NYT Book Review. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/books/reviewWagner.t.html_r=1&amp;ref=books&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/books/reviewWagner.t.html_r=1&amp;ref=books&amp;oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>Not quite as generous in praise as the comments above: here&#8217;s a quote&#8230;</p>
<p><i>From her first novel, â€œThe Country Girlsâ€ (1960), onward, she has had the nerve to look unflinchingly into the eyes of passion; if itâ€™s possible to accuse the result of being faux-Joycean, empurpled, itâ€™s also possible to feel, more often than is comfortable, that with her breathless force she truly conveys the destabilizing agitation some call romance.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen the word &#8220;empurpled&#8221; before. I&#8217;m not quite sure what it means.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I just downloaded it. Will take it to sea with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I just downloaded it. Will take it to sea with me.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/edna-obrien/comment-page-1/#comment-33602</link>
		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here it is:
http://samuel-beckett.net/laughter.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here it is:<br />
<a href="http://samuel-beckett.net/laughter.html" rel="nofollow">http://samuel-beckett.net/laughter.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was an article, not a book. Should be in the Guardian UK archives, though again, I might have made it up. But I don&#039;t think so. Ditto re Beckett-Joyce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was an article, not a book. Should be in the Guardian UK archives, though again, I might have made it up. But I don&#8217;t think so. Ditto re Beckett-Joyce.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...she also wrote a lovely reminiscence of Beckett some years back.&quot;

Did she? What&#039;s the title?  

I am actually a stronger fan of Beckett than of Joyce, though I have read and reread Ulysses a number of times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;she also wrote a lovely reminiscence of Beckett some years back.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did she? What&#8217;s the title?  </p>
<p>I am actually a stronger fan of Beckett than of Joyce, though I have read and reread Ulysses a number of times.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto to jdyer. She has the Irish gift for the perfect phrase in spades (not even a remote attempt at a pun, I promise: it would ill-become a Hurley, after all.) If memory serves -- if --  she also wrote a lovely reminiscence of Beckett some years back. You might ask her about him. Also for a few of her favorite titles the rest of us might not be aware of. In fact that&#039;s a question I&#039;d recommend Chris ask most of his guests. Who knows what treasures he might turn up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto to jdyer. She has the Irish gift for the perfect phrase in spades (not even a remote attempt at a pun, I promise: it would ill-become a Hurley, after all.) If memory serves &#8212; if &#8212;  she also wrote a lovely reminiscence of Beckett some years back. You might ask her about him. Also for a few of her favorite titles the rest of us might not be aware of. In fact that&#8217;s a question I&#8217;d recommend Chris ask most of his guests. Who knows what treasures he might turn up.</p>
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		<title>By: jdyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read her book on James Joyce and it was first rate. I haven&#039;t read any of her novels yet, but she is one of the modern writers I am anxious to get to at some point. 

I am looking forward to the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read her book on James Joyce and it was first rate. I haven&#8217;t read any of her novels yet, but she is one of the modern writers I am anxious to get to at some point. </p>
<p>I am looking forward to the show.</p>
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