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	<title>Comments on: Elections &#039;06: Montana Senate</title>
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		<title>By: when was last senator elections</title>
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		<dc:creator>when was last senator elections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] residential elections, but its own Senate is majority Democratic, and in 2004 it picked ...http://www.radioopensource.org/elections-06-montana-senate/Senator El [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Online Auctions &#187; Elections â€˜06: Montana Senate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Online Auctions &#187; Elections â€˜06: Montana Senate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ge, roughly 25% percent of the population is independent, which [&#8230;] Original post by katherine and software by Elliott Back   			 			 				This entry is filed und [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/elections-06-montana-senate/#comment-80104</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radioopensource.org/elections-06-montana-senate/#comment-34932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;peggysue&lt;/a&gt;: You&#039;re absolutely right. Just so you know, we were all-too-painfully aware, while producing the hour, that we didn&#039;t have any women. We tried very hard to find some. Unfortunately, those we talked to didn&#039;t quite fit the bill in one way or the other (and, interestingly, none mentioned Jeannette Rankin...). Chelsea did record a piece of tape with a female rancher for the end of the hour -- but thematically, by the time we got there, it wasn&#039;t right to include it. Chelsea has posted the audio in a separate feature, though, that you can listen to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radioopensource.org/from-the-cutting-room-montana-senate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a  href="http://www.radioopensource.org/elections-06-montana-senate/#comment-34932" rel="nofollow">peggysue</a>: You&#8217;re absolutely right. Just so you know, we were all-too-painfully aware, while producing the hour, that we didn&#8217;t have any women. We tried very hard to find some. Unfortunately, those we talked to didn&#8217;t quite fit the bill in one way or the other (and, interestingly, none mentioned Jeannette Rankin&#8230;). Chelsea did record a piece of tape with a female rancher for the end of the hour &#8212; but thematically, by the time we got there, it wasn&#8217;t right to include it. Chelsea has posted the audio in a separate feature, though, that you can listen to <a  href="http://www.radioopensource.org/from-the-cutting-room-montana-senate/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Karbon Kounty Moos &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Home, sweet home</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karbon Kounty Moos &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Home, sweet home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 04:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chelsea Merz, a radio producer for an NPR show out of Boston. The show was Open Source - Elections &#8216;06 - Montana Senate. Of course I was not being intervi [...]</description>
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		<title>By: peggysue</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/elections-06-montana-senate/#comment-80102</link>
		<dc:creator>peggysue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 01:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hushed... I&#039;ll tell you how I feel about it after I&#039;ve kicked your ass.



I&#039;m just kidding really - I teach nonviolence so it would not do for me to go around kicking butt in a literal way. Like you I do enjoy the mix of folks you find in Montana: School Marms who hunt Elk, Hippy tree huggers with law degrees, Fly fishing novelists and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hushed&#8230; I&#8217;ll tell you how I feel about it after I&#8217;ve kicked your ass.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just kidding really &#8211; I teach nonviolence so it would not do for me to go around kicking butt in a literal way. Like you I do enjoy the mix of folks you find in Montana: School Marms who hunt Elk, Hippy tree huggers with law degrees, Fly fishing novelists and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Hushd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hushd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggysue, right on, have to acknowledge Rankin....good call and her name should have been mentioned.

And on the enviro-hunter discussion, perhaps it is more of a western thing but I grew up in the midwest and considered myself an enviro while hunting.  I love Montana for the melting pot that it is with hippies and rednecks and enviros and industry and lowbaggers....ok minus a few of the rednecks because that stuff gets old. We need to break down the walls though.  The left (non-partisan) should embrace guns, regionalism, federalism (when appropriate) and rebellion!  I&#039;m a new age redneck....I&#039;ll kick your ass and listen to you tell me how it made you feel.

Now that is over the top Macho for you Peggysue.



Hush D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggysue, right on, have to acknowledge Rankin&#8230;.good call and her name should have been mentioned.</p>
<p>And on the enviro-hunter discussion, perhaps it is more of a western thing but I grew up in the midwest and considered myself an enviro while hunting.  I love Montana for the melting pot that it is with hippies and rednecks and enviros and industry and lowbaggers&#8230;.ok minus a few of the rednecks because that stuff gets old. We need to break down the walls though.  The left (non-partisan) should embrace guns, regionalism, federalism (when appropriate) and rebellion!  I&#8217;m a new age redneck&#8230;.I&#8217;ll kick your ass and listen to you tell me how it made you feel.</p>
<p>Now that is over the top Macho for you Peggysue.</p>
<p>Hush D</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Vranes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Vranes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a former resident of western Montana now living in Colorado.  During the 2004 election I saw firsthand a monumental &lt;i&gt;local&lt;/i&gt; shift from the R&#039;s to the D&#039;s as both state houses went from large R majorities to a D majority for the Senate and a 50-50 split in the House.   At the same time, four of the five elected executive branch offices went R to D.  Yet Bush still outpolled Kerry 65-35.  There are two lessons I took from that election: 1- the shift to the D&#039;s had much more to do with Judy Martz&#039;s governorship (at one point her approval ratings were in the single digits or low teens, if I recall correctly) than with broader political feelings; 2- the very large majority for Bush had much more to do with the nature of Kerry than with support for Bush or national R platform in general.



As a life-long westerner who has also lived in NYC and DC, it&#039;s been amusing to watch East Coast political handicappers try to figure out western politics.  One mistake I see made time again is assuming that the West might as well be called West State, as if the entire 9-state intermountain region is one large state with a homogenous population.  The good western politicians understand how far from reality this thought is, but I&#039;m not sure east-based observers do.  I see far more difference in politics between Idaho and Montana or Montana and Wyoming than, say, New York and New Jersey or Virginia and North Carolina.



The David Sirota comment gets close to the interplay of what may seem to be contradictory politics in a national context.  In Missoula there were three conversations only: hunting, skiing and fly fishing.  In the most liberal city in the state, finding a neighbor who hunted duck or elk was as easy as finding fleece-clad Subaru Outback driver (in other words, just open your eyes).  And, in some twist on Take Your Daughter to Work Day, I knew a couple men who brought their teenage daughters on their elk expeditions and I knew one couple who brought their 8-week-old newborn into the woods in season.  This was not some redneck backwater, this was Missoula.  Point is, there are quite a few people (myself included) who consider themselves both environmentalists and who hunt and see absolutely no contradiction in the association.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a former resident of western Montana now living in Colorado.  During the 2004 election I saw firsthand a monumental <i>local</i> shift from the R&#8217;s to the D&#8217;s as both state houses went from large R majorities to a D majority for the Senate and a 50-50 split in the House.   At the same time, four of the five elected executive branch offices went R to D.  Yet Bush still outpolled Kerry 65-35.  There are two lessons I took from that election: 1- the shift to the D&#8217;s had much more to do with Judy Martz&#8217;s governorship (at one point her approval ratings were in the single digits or low teens, if I recall correctly) than with broader political feelings; 2- the very large majority for Bush had much more to do with the nature of Kerry than with support for Bush or national R platform in general.</p>
<p>As a life-long westerner who has also lived in NYC and DC, it&#8217;s been amusing to watch East Coast political handicappers try to figure out western politics.  One mistake I see made time again is assuming that the West might as well be called West State, as if the entire 9-state intermountain region is one large state with a homogenous population.  The good western politicians understand how far from reality this thought is, but I&#8217;m not sure east-based observers do.  I see far more difference in politics between Idaho and Montana or Montana and Wyoming than, say, New York and New Jersey or Virginia and North Carolina.</p>
<p>The David Sirota comment gets close to the interplay of what may seem to be contradictory politics in a national context.  In Missoula there were three conversations only: hunting, skiing and fly fishing.  In the most liberal city in the state, finding a neighbor who hunted duck or elk was as easy as finding fleece-clad Subaru Outback driver (in other words, just open your eyes).  And, in some twist on Take Your Daughter to Work Day, I knew a couple men who brought their teenage daughters on their elk expeditions and I knew one couple who brought their 8-week-old newborn into the woods in season.  This was not some redneck backwater, this was Missoula.  Point is, there are quite a few people (myself included) who consider themselves both environmentalists and who hunt and see absolutely no contradiction in the association.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/elections-06-montana-senate/#comment-80099</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hushd and emmettoconnell: Funnily enough, one of the examples on tonight&#039;s show (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radioopensource.org/experiments-in-democracy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Experiments in Democracy&lt;/a&gt;) will be all about bringing the environmental and ranching communities together in Montana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hushd and emmettoconnell: Funnily enough, one of the examples on tonight&#8217;s show (<a  href="http://www.radioopensource.org/experiments-in-democracy/" rel="nofollow">Experiments in Democracy</a>) will be all about bringing the environmental and ranching communities together in Montana.</p>
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		<title>By: emmettoconnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmettoconnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t listened to the show yet (downloading now), but i wanted to respond to Hushd.



Yes, I think the point is that in the West they try to broaden who would support environmental protection and access beyond the &quot;weekend warriors&quot; to the more traditional baits and bullets folks. There are social differences that sometimes keep them apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t listened to the show yet (downloading now), but i wanted to respond to Hushd.</p>
<p>Yes, I think the point is that in the West they try to broaden who would support environmental protection and access beyond the &#8220;weekend warriors&#8221; to the more traditional baits and bullets folks. There are social differences that sometimes keep them apart.</p>
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		<title>By: peggysue</title>
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		<dc:creator>peggysue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh geeze, that Montana show was so MACHO. How can you talk for a whole hour about independant minded Montana politicians without even mentioning Jeanette Rankin? By the gender equality of that show you&#039;d think everyone in Montana is a manly Marlboro man... but hey, not ALL cowboys are gay... there are WOMEN in Montana too. My Grandmother gave birth to my Dad in Wolf Springs Montana where they ranched in the 1920s and that is the left wing side of my family. I worked on the Editorial Collective of the Earth First! Journal in Missoula in the 1990s. My first Earth First! action was in Max Bacus&#039;s office. And, I worked with just as many independant minded rough n&#039; ready women as men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh geeze, that Montana show was so MACHO. How can you talk for a whole hour about independant minded Montana politicians without even mentioning Jeanette Rankin? By the gender equality of that show you&#8217;d think everyone in Montana is a manly Marlboro man&#8230; but hey, not ALL cowboys are gay&#8230; there are WOMEN in Montana too. My Grandmother gave birth to my Dad in Wolf Springs Montana where they ranched in the 1920s and that is the left wing side of my family. I worked on the Editorial Collective of the Earth First! Journal in Missoula in the 1990s. My first Earth First! action was in Max Bacus&#8217;s office. And, I worked with just as many independant minded rough n&#8217; ready women as men.</p>
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