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	<title>Comments on: Erica Hirshler&#8217;s Biography of a Masterpiece</title>
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	<description>Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics</description>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/erica-hirshlers-biography-of-a-masterpiece/#comment-93476</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a huge pot! Probably made in sections and luted together-  by one strong potter on one strong wheel.



This is a wonderful interior scene to focus on, especially this time of year, the history, story of the girls and psychological insights.



The high resolution reproduction  here is better than the one in my book but still it&#039;s not like standing before the painting itself- 8 plus feet by 8 plus feet- which is a different experience altogether.  My art history professor ( lucky me it was William Rubin so many years ago) speaking of Mark Rothko&#039;s paintings, who awakened me to the phenomenon that 4 feet of yellow is a different experience, size matters. But you do need at least the reproduction to appreciate this conversation and to begin to feel the actual painting itself and to whet the appetite to see it  or see it again. We really need to stand before the painting and give the time.



My first response to the painting, and I get it  even in reproduction, is sensual- to the lusciousness of the paint and to the strokes... as always with Sargent.  Since we already have experienced what came after Sargent our  modern sensibility about painting is therefore  more liberated.



I think I did see that show at the MFA so many years ago. But anyway I am going to detour to see this painting again in a couple of weeks-  with new eyes.



I have to mention that Sargent&#039;s watercolors are masterful....I don&#039;t know if there are any on view at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a huge pot! Probably made in sections and luted together-  by one strong potter on one strong wheel.</p>
<p>This is a wonderful interior scene to focus on, especially this time of year, the history, story of the girls and psychological insights.</p>
<p>The high resolution reproduction  here is better than the one in my book but still it&#8217;s not like standing before the painting itself- 8 plus feet by 8 plus feet- which is a different experience altogether.  My art history professor ( lucky me it was William Rubin so many years ago) speaking of Mark Rothko&#8217;s paintings, who awakened me to the phenomenon that 4 feet of yellow is a different experience, size matters. But you do need at least the reproduction to appreciate this conversation and to begin to feel the actual painting itself and to whet the appetite to see it  or see it again. We really need to stand before the painting and give the time.</p>
<p>My first response to the painting, and I get it  even in reproduction, is sensual- to the lusciousness of the paint and to the strokes&#8230; as always with Sargent.  Since we already have experienced what came after Sargent our  modern sensibility about painting is therefore  more liberated.</p>
<p>I think I did see that show at the MFA so many years ago. But anyway I am going to detour to see this painting again in a couple of weeks-  with new eyes.</p>
<p>I have to mention that Sargent&#8217;s watercolors are masterful&#8230;.I don&#8217;t know if there are any on view at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate McShane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t listened to this interview, yet.



This has always been one of my favorite paintings.  I&#039;ve had specific and weighty ideas about their silence.  It comes from working with many, many girls, and from being one.  I doubt if Erica Hirschler considers my reason for their staring and silence, but I&#039;m looking forward to hearing her voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t listened to this interview, yet.</p>
<p>This has always been one of my favorite paintings.  I&#8217;ve had specific and weighty ideas about their silence.  It comes from working with many, many girls, and from being one.  I doubt if Erica Hirschler considers my reason for their staring and silence, but I&#8217;m looking forward to hearing her voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed listening to this conversation. Sargent is one of my favorites and so little is really known about him.



Though he had a great talent, much of Sargent&#039;s techniques and methods were learned from his studying of Frans Hals, Velazquez and taking lessons from his spectacular teacher Carolus Duran.  Sargent is a great reaffirmation of the traditional approach to painting while his individual virtuousity, freshness and elan are every modern artist&#039;s dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed listening to this conversation. Sargent is one of my favorites and so little is really known about him.</p>
<p>Though he had a great talent, much of Sargent&#8217;s techniques and methods were learned from his studying of Frans Hals, Velazquez and taking lessons from his spectacular teacher Carolus Duran.  Sargent is a great reaffirmation of the traditional approach to painting while his individual virtuousity, freshness and elan are every modern artist&#8217;s dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Ackerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, it is a pleasure to know that at least a few people understand and wish to honor things Brahmin. &quot;Daughters&quot; is emblematic of a time so rich and now almost faded out. &quot;Homeless in their own home&quot; is a concept hard to accept today, even in an era still overpopulated with nannies, but it certainly was real for far too many scions of Proper Bostonians. In that vein, you may want to read Anne Wyman&#039;s new memoir of her father, &quot;Kipling&#039;s Cat.&quot; As her cousin aptly put it, after her mother died, Jeffries Wyman thought he could raise his kids by mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, it is a pleasure to know that at least a few people understand and wish to honor things Brahmin. &#8220;Daughters&#8221; is emblematic of a time so rich and now almost faded out. &#8220;Homeless in their own home&#8221; is a concept hard to accept today, even in an era still overpopulated with nannies, but it certainly was real for far too many scions of Proper Bostonians. In that vein, you may want to read Anne Wyman&#8217;s new memoir of her father, &#8220;Kipling&#8217;s Cat.&#8221; As her cousin aptly put it, after her mother died, Jeffries Wyman thought he could raise his kids by mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Avec Frites</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avec Frites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wonderful show. It takes me back to a late 90&#039;s show Chris did on Sargent, the show where I first got interested in his work. As a result of that show, I purchased a print of Sargent&#039;s Lily Lily Rose painting, to hang in my then one-year old daughter&#039;s bedroom. Her first/middle name is Lily Rose.



Thinking back, it was also Chris who got me interested in Jazz, in the 90&#039;s. And in the Transcendentalists. And so many other topics.



Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful show. It takes me back to a late 90&#8242;s show Chris did on Sargent, the show where I first got interested in his work. As a result of that show, I purchased a print of Sargent&#8217;s Lily Lily Rose painting, to hang in my then one-year old daughter&#8217;s bedroom. Her first/middle name is Lily Rose.</p>
<p>Thinking back, it was also Chris who got me interested in Jazz, in the 90&#8242;s. And in the Transcendentalists. And so many other topics.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Brother Kento:



You remind me uncannily of John Updike&#039;s observation on this painting: &quot;The effect is of silence: silent vases... silent carpet... A great hushed world waits around these children to be tasted, explored, grown into... Sargent, catching his subjects where they have alighted like white butterflies, displays deep spaces about them, and permits them all the gravity their young femininity warrants... These young ladies are watching, not just the painter, but us, to see what we will do next, and whether what we do will be worthy of their responding.  Like butterflies, they will elude us if we startle them.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Brother Kento:</p>
<p>You remind me uncannily of John Updike&#8217;s observation on this painting: &#8220;The effect is of silence: silent vases&#8230; silent carpet&#8230; A great hushed world waits around these children to be tasted, explored, grown into&#8230; Sargent, catching his subjects where they have alighted like white butterflies, displays deep spaces about them, and permits them all the gravity their young femininity warrants&#8230; These young ladies are watching, not just the painter, but us, to see what we will do next, and whether what we do will be worthy of their responding.  Like butterflies, they will elude us if we startle them.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kento Ikeda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kento Ikeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my first experience with the painting (in some ways, it feels like listening to this show was my first experience with paintings). My immediate reaction upon seeing it was a desire to want to &lt;i&gt;listen&lt;/i&gt;. It looks so quiet, far too quiet for a room with four girls of that age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first experience with the painting (in some ways, it feels like listening to this show was my first experience with paintings). My immediate reaction upon seeing it was a desire to want to <i>listen</i>. It looks so quiet, far too quiet for a room with four girls of that age.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the burgeoning independence of femininity in the face of futility…just as I see here:



 http://www.allpaintings.org/d/54618-1/Edgar+Degas+-+The+Duchess+di+Montajesi+with+Her+Daughters.jpg



I also notice that the vases are much bigger than the girls…I sense those vases taking precedence in this household…these ornaments so priceless are give license to say more than the adolescents in the room, I suspect.



And the dresses of these prim and proper white girls all match a whiteness that bonds them in blandness.  Ironically the head of this household could surely go on for hours about the vibrant colors of their rug, but the style of their offsping will most assuredly stay beneath the rug…emotions in this painting are kept as close to the vest as the motionless hands of the girls.



Now that I&#039;ve looked at the painting, I will listen to the interview and post later on.  Thank you, Christopher Lydon, as always.  Lots of Love.  We especially need the arts as an antidote of beauty during this oppression of carnage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the burgeoning independence of femininity in the face of futility…just as I see here:</p>
<p> <a  href="http://www.allpaintings.org/d/54618-1/Edgar+Degas+-+The+Duchess+di+Montajesi+with+Her+Daughters.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.allpaintings.org/d/54618-1/Edgar+Degas+-+The+Duchess+di+Montajesi+with+Her+Daughters.jpg</a></p>
<p>I also notice that the vases are much bigger than the girls…I sense those vases taking precedence in this household…these ornaments so priceless are give license to say more than the adolescents in the room, I suspect.</p>
<p>And the dresses of these prim and proper white girls all match a whiteness that bonds them in blandness.  Ironically the head of this household could surely go on for hours about the vibrant colors of their rug, but the style of their offsping will most assuredly stay beneath the rug…emotions in this painting are kept as close to the vest as the motionless hands of the girls.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve looked at the painting, I will listen to the interview and post later on.  Thank you, Christopher Lydon, as always.  Lots of Love.  We especially need the arts as an antidote of beauty during this oppression of carnage.</p>
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