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	<title>Comments on: Google: Protecting Your Privacy?</title>
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		<title>By: A little yellow bird</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68498</link>
		<dc:creator>A little yellow bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;fconte&quot;: What else can they do? Please see &quot;The Google Conundrum&quot;: http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer129.html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;fconte&#8221;: What else can they do? Please see &#8220;The Google Conundrum&#8221;: <a  href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer129.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer129.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: fconte</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68497</link>
		<dc:creator>fconte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how the virtuous have fallen. Google to comply with China&#039;s restrictive speech codes. Hmm. I guess Google going up against Uncle Sam doesn&#039;t look so noble.



http://news.pajamasmedia.com/business/2006/01/24/7060821_Google_officiall.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how the virtuous have fallen. Google to comply with China&#8217;s restrictive speech codes. Hmm. I guess Google going up against Uncle Sam doesn&#8217;t look so noble.</p>
<p><a  href="http://news.pajamasmedia.com/business/2006/01/24/7060821_Google_officiall.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://news.pajamasmedia.com/business/2006/01/24/7060821_Google_officiall.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: sidewalker</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68496</link>
		<dc:creator>sidewalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recent Le Show&#039;s &quot;Dick Cheney: Confidential&quot; has a few jokes related to this theme. Worth a listen if you like sarcastic humor: http://www.harryshearer.com/leshow/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent Le Show&#8217;s &#8220;Dick Cheney: Confidential&#8221; has a few jokes related to this theme. Worth a listen if you like sarcastic humor: <a  href="http://www.harryshearer.com/leshow/" rel="nofollow">http://www.harryshearer.com/leshow/</a></p>
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		<title>By: sidewalker</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68495</link>
		<dc:creator>sidewalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have criticized several of the shows as too closed-sourced, so it is appropriate to mention that I though today&#039;s show was really well produced. The guests were knowledgeable and with a range of opinions and some of the other questions or comments from this BB were included.

I agree that though we have hack-back tools to limit the eye of big brother government and corporate uncle from probing our minds, should we have to &quot;arm&quot; ourselves to protect our privacy? Fences, hand guns and firewalls: so much for the commons.

A strange thought I had while listening to the show was just how lucky I am to worry about digital privacy in comparison to some Iraqi people who can do nothing to protect their own private homes from foreign army intrusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have criticized several of the shows as too closed-sourced, so it is appropriate to mention that I though today&#8217;s show was really well produced. The guests were knowledgeable and with a range of opinions and some of the other questions or comments from this BB were included.</p>
<p>I agree that though we have hack-back tools to limit the eye of big brother government and corporate uncle from probing our minds, should we have to &#8220;arm&#8221; ourselves to protect our privacy? Fences, hand guns and firewalls: so much for the commons.</p>
<p>A strange thought I had while listening to the show was just how lucky I am to worry about digital privacy in comparison to some Iraqi people who can do nothing to protect their own private homes from foreign army intrusion.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzman</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68494</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the digital-dystopia. Throughout history, the evolution of technology presents us with marvel and menace and the more powerful the technology the more the potential for less than ideal application. This is the so-called INFORMATION AGE (the latest in human paradigm shifts.) With GPS itâ€™s possible to track oneâ€™s whereabouts, with point of sale data â€“ oneâ€™s purchasing profile. With digital CATV and On-Demand Entertainment â€“ oneâ€™s personal leisure predilections. With automotive computers â€“ oneâ€™s driving habits. On-line transactions - Libraries â€“ Work â€“ Web Cams â€“ Credit Cards â€“ Cell Phones â€“ Medical records â€“ This call may be monitored/recorded for quality purposes, yada, yada. We leave digital spoors (spores) all over cyberspace on countless disk drives and tapes and backups. If you know that itâ€™s possible to gather and use this information for or against you then forewarned is forearmed (absent the off-grid troglodyte barter/cash only scenario â€“ if cash were outlawed and all monetary exchange were digital (no shortage of sci-fi on this theme) good luck shopping at the black supermarket, and if ALYBâ€™s gummint can wangle it, they would like nothing better for you or me â€“ of course they would exempt themselves as they routinely do.) Just assume that everything you do or say is recorded, open to view by basically anyone who really wants to bother and act accordingly â€“ CYA if you feel itâ€™s necessary. Follow the money. There are trillions (maybe more) of $ waiting to be dug out of the data mines (the digital mother lode â€“ the richest in human history) and just as much â€œin kindâ€? value to our noble guardians who know whatâ€™s best for us (them!) and save us from ourselves and anyone deemed to be any kind of threat. This genie is out of the bottle and not likely to willingly return unless thereâ€™s a quid pro quo (monetary or in kind.) As to the Canadian option, they donâ€™t even pretend to have a right to free speech (most other places either. See E-bay vs. France.) As to the legality of these actions, I quote from â€œThe Treasure of the Sierra Madreâ€? &quot;Badges??? We ain&#039;t got no badges!!! We don&#039;t need no badges!!! I don&#039;t have to show you any stinking badges!!!&quot; and I paraphrase our fearless (fearful) leader. â€œConstitution? We donâ€™t need no stinking Constitution. Itâ€™s just a goddamned piece of paper.â€?  ALYB is correct when he says:&gt;&gt; The government ultimately really does represent the collective, semi-conscious will of the people;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the digital-dystopia. Throughout history, the evolution of technology presents us with marvel and menace and the more powerful the technology the more the potential for less than ideal application. This is the so-called INFORMATION AGE (the latest in human paradigm shifts.) With GPS itâ€™s possible to track oneâ€™s whereabouts, with point of sale data â€“ oneâ€™s purchasing profile. With digital CATV and On-Demand Entertainment â€“ oneâ€™s personal leisure predilections. With automotive computers â€“ oneâ€™s driving habits. On-line transactions &#8211; Libraries â€“ Work â€“ Web Cams â€“ Credit Cards â€“ Cell Phones â€“ Medical records â€“ This call may be monitored/recorded for quality purposes, yada, yada. We leave digital spoors (spores) all over cyberspace on countless disk drives and tapes and backups. If you know that itâ€™s possible to gather and use this information for or against you then forewarned is forearmed (absent the off-grid troglodyte barter/cash only scenario â€“ if cash were outlawed and all monetary exchange were digital (no shortage of sci-fi on this theme) good luck shopping at the black supermarket, and if ALYBâ€™s gummint can wangle it, they would like nothing better for you or me â€“ of course they would exempt themselves as they routinely do.) Just assume that everything you do or say is recorded, open to view by basically anyone who really wants to bother and act accordingly â€“ CYA if you feel itâ€™s necessary. Follow the money. There are trillions (maybe more) of $ waiting to be dug out of the data mines (the digital mother lode â€“ the richest in human history) and just as much â€œin kindâ€? value to our noble guardians who know whatâ€™s best for us (them!) and save us from ourselves and anyone deemed to be any kind of threat. This genie is out of the bottle and not likely to willingly return unless thereâ€™s a quid pro quo (monetary or in kind.) As to the Canadian option, they donâ€™t even pretend to have a right to free speech (most other places either. See E-bay vs. France.) As to the legality of these actions, I quote from â€œThe Treasure of the Sierra Madreâ€? &#8220;Badges??? We ain&#8217;t got no badges!!! We don&#8217;t need no badges!!! I don&#8217;t have to show you any stinking badges!!!&#8221; and I paraphrase our fearless (fearful) leader. â€œConstitution? We donâ€™t need no stinking Constitution. Itâ€™s just a goddamned piece of paper.â€?  ALYB is correct when he says:&gt;&gt; The government ultimately really does represent the collective, semi-conscious will of the people;</p>
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		<title>By: A little yellow bird</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68493</link>
		<dc:creator>A little yellow bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;George Robertson&quot;: Nice fantasy, but this is all about a further consolidation of state policing powers, especially in the executive, and a further cowing of the populace. The feds will even &quot;catch&quot; some &quot;miscreants&quot; to show how effective they&#039;re being, and people will bow out of various businesses and reduce free-flow of info and online products and services to make themselves less visible and subject to trouble. The government ultimately really does represent the collective, semi-conscious will of the people; or as it is sung: &quot;I shouted out, &#039;Who killed the Kennedys?&#039;, when after all, it was you and me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;George Robertson&#8221;: Nice fantasy, but this is all about a further consolidation of state policing powers, especially in the executive, and a further cowing of the populace. The feds will even &#8220;catch&#8221; some &#8220;miscreants&#8221; to show how effective they&#8217;re being, and people will bow out of various businesses and reduce free-flow of info and online products and services to make themselves less visible and subject to trouble. The government ultimately really does represent the collective, semi-conscious will of the people; or as it is sung: &#8220;I shouted out, &#8216;Who killed the Kennedys?&#8217;, when after all, it was you and me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: anon12392</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68492</link>
		<dc:creator>anon12392</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like it&#039;s none of the gummint&#039;s business what I check out of the library or buy from Amazon, it&#039;s none of it&#039;s business what I search for.  My more technical friends say that the searches aren&#039;t associated with names -- and somehow that makes it worse.  How does this restrictive, backwards (if you disagree with the president you are a traitor)) administration then figure out if children are accessing pornography....because if you are over 21, it&#039;s not criminal - or is this the Christian right wing, the scariest most evil faction in amerioca, at work wanting to restrict access to pornography, period.   An d bottom line, google, yahoo, ect, shouldn&#039;t be tracking our searches at all - the fact that the information exists at all for the gummit to try to get to is most disturbing of all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like it&#8217;s none of the gummint&#8217;s business what I check out of the library or buy from Amazon, it&#8217;s none of it&#8217;s business what I search for.  My more technical friends say that the searches aren&#8217;t associated with names &#8212; and somehow that makes it worse.  How does this restrictive, backwards (if you disagree with the president you are a traitor)) administration then figure out if children are accessing pornography&#8230;.because if you are over 21, it&#8217;s not criminal &#8211; or is this the Christian right wing, the scariest most evil faction in amerioca, at work wanting to restrict access to pornography, period.   An d bottom line, google, yahoo, ect, shouldn&#8217;t be tracking our searches at all &#8211; the fact that the information exists at all for the gummit to try to get to is most disturbing of all.</p>
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		<title>By: George Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68491</link>
		<dc:creator>George Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to think that the fact that Google is at the eye of this is the result of a partnership of Microsoft and Karl Rove.  Rove desperately needs a juicy crotch oriented issue to save the R&#039;s from cedrtain defeat in the comming  mid term elections and what better than a porn crusade to distract America from the reality that the government has run completely amok, wrecked  your childrens economic future, and taken away  your fundamental rights to privacy, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  microsoft  which gave up the data immediately and before this became an issue, could not be happier to have anything distracting Google from the business of hiring all of the best talent in Redmond and eating away at the Microsfot monopoly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to think that the fact that Google is at the eye of this is the result of a partnership of Microsoft and Karl Rove.  Rove desperately needs a juicy crotch oriented issue to save the R&#8217;s from cedrtain defeat in the comming  mid term elections and what better than a porn crusade to distract America from the reality that the government has run completely amok, wrecked  your childrens economic future, and taken away  your fundamental rights to privacy, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  microsoft  which gave up the data immediately and before this became an issue, could not be happier to have anything distracting Google from the business of hiring all of the best talent in Redmond and eating away at the Microsfot monopoly.</p>
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		<title>By: A little yellow bird</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68490</link>
		<dc:creator>A little yellow bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re not descended from tech-magnon man, a.k.a. australowbrowpatheticus, as I am, or not otherwise techtarded or diiferently-intellected&#039; you may benefit from these various ways of anonymizing yourself: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,70051-0.html. (Found @ an excellent libertarian site today: http://strike-the-root.com/)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re not descended from tech-magnon man, a.k.a. australowbrowpatheticus, as I am, or not otherwise techtarded or diiferently-intellected&#8217; you may benefit from these various ways of anonymizing yourself: <a  href="http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,70051-0.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,70051-0.html</a>. (Found @ an excellent libertarian site today: <a  href="http://strike-the-root.com/" rel="nofollow">http://strike-the-root.com/</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: A little yellow bird</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/google-protecting-your-privacy/#comment-68489</link>
		<dc:creator>A little yellow bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;ll play: my silliest search was probably typing the whole of a limerick I wrote into the search line to see if it resembled any others (it didn&#039;t!). I&#039;m so proud. I&#039;d love to reproduce it here, but decorum forbids it (I think?). In fact, the explanation is simple: &quot;The limerick packs laughs anatomical/Into space that is quite economical./But the good ones I&#039;ve seen/Are so seldom clean;/And the clean ones are so seldom comical!&quot; -Bennett Cerf, maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll play: my silliest search was probably typing the whole of a limerick I wrote into the search line to see if it resembled any others (it didn&#8217;t!). I&#8217;m so proud. I&#8217;d love to reproduce it here, but decorum forbids it (I think?). In fact, the explanation is simple: &#8220;The limerick packs laughs anatomical/Into space that is quite economical./But the good ones I&#8217;ve seen/Are so seldom clean;/And the clean ones are so seldom comical!&#8221; -Bennett Cerf, maybe?</p>
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