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	<title>Comments on: Jonathan Zittrain and a Cyber September 11</title>
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	<description>Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics</description>
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		<title>By: DavidMohring</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/jonathan-zittrain-and-a-cyber-september-11/#comment-64337</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidMohring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 15:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Locking owners of PCs out parts of their operating system in itself represents  a security risk. Since no complex software has been found to be completely immune to exploitable vulnerabilities, any 9/11 security framework could itself be exploited.

See &quot;Remote Attestation&quot; and content access monopolies

http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_itheresies_archive.html



One solution to identity theft is the use of a separate back channel that is used to notify a registered person when a transaction is made. You only need a minority of people to join such a system to act in the same way as a canary in a mine, detecting potental cracking by third parties. Notifcations of important transactions could be sent to your cell phone as well as your PCs.

See Epic Ideas for Privacy Reform

http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_itheresies_archive.html



The only real solution is the adoption of a reliable framework and operating environment and DEMAND that, instead of the developers, trusted third parties audit and build the software used ( step 12 ).

See Twelve Step TrustABLE IT : VLSBs in VDNZs From TBAs

http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2004_10_01_itheresies_archive.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Locking owners of PCs out parts of their operating system in itself represents  a security risk. Since no complex software has been found to be completely immune to exploitable vulnerabilities, any 9/11 security framework could itself be exploited.</p>
<p>See &#8220;Remote Attestation&#8221; and content access monopolies</p>
<p><a  href="http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_itheresies_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_itheresies_archive.html</a></p>
<p>One solution to identity theft is the use of a separate back channel that is used to notify a registered person when a transaction is made. You only need a minority of people to join such a system to act in the same way as a canary in a mine, detecting potental cracking by third parties. Notifcations of important transactions could be sent to your cell phone as well as your PCs.</p>
<p>See Epic Ideas for Privacy Reform</p>
<p><a  href="http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_itheresies_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_itheresies_archive.html</a></p>
<p>The only real solution is the adoption of a reliable framework and operating environment and DEMAND that, instead of the developers, trusted third parties audit and build the software used ( step 12 ).</p>
<p>See Twelve Step TrustABLE IT : VLSBs in VDNZs From TBAs</p>
<p><a  href="http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2004_10_01_itheresies_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://itheresies.blogspot.com/2004_10_01_itheresies_archive.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ecksii</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/jonathan-zittrain-and-a-cyber-september-11/#comment-64336</link>
		<dc:creator>ecksii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 04:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it appears that I&#039;m out of sync with the show. I wish that I had seen this one when it was on deck... ...sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it appears that I&#8217;m out of sync with the show. I wish that I had seen this one when it was on deck&#8230; &#8230;sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: ecksii</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/jonathan-zittrain-and-a-cyber-september-11/#comment-64335</link>
		<dc:creator>ecksii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 04:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus Ranum would be good to talk on this subject. Another good person would be Simson Garfinkle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus Ranum would be good to talk on this subject. Another good person would be Simson Garfinkle.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith Perrolle</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/jonathan-zittrain-and-a-cyber-september-11/#comment-64334</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith Perrolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, re: copynight - sounds interesting and meets 2 blocks from my house, the one in Cambridge anyway.



Also I have an interest in digital archiving, but I do mine as VirtualPCs on a mac.  I don&#039;t have room for more than a few real computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, re: copynight &#8211; sounds interesting and meets 2 blocks from my house, the one in Cambridge anyway.</p>
<p>Also I have an interest in digital archiving, but I do mine as VirtualPCs on a mac.  I don&#8217;t have room for more than a few real computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>urbenz, that&#039;s one of the core functionalities of anti-virus software. :) It&#039;s one of the things they do, look for completely-whacky calls and functions that make no sense for the program. Obviously, they also use signature files and other stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>urbenz, that&#8217;s one of the core functionalities of anti-virus software. <img src='http://www.radioopensource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s one of the things they do, look for completely-whacky calls and functions that make no sense for the program. Obviously, they also use signature files and other stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judith, I was brought, I think, to give a little &quot;on the ground&quot; background to Jonathan&#039;s talking, but as we both heard, the boy can handle himself quite well, and in many different ways. Like I said, I got whiplash as everbody bounced around. I&#039;m glad I got to say something, anyway.



If you want to hear me tell a room full of people my thought on digital history, I gave a talk that&#039;s available here:



http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collectionid=2004-h2k2-digitalhistory-jasonscott&amp;collection=textfiles_audio



Hey, go to the creative commons dinner this upcoming tuesday!



http://www.copynight.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith, I was brought, I think, to give a little &#8220;on the ground&#8221; background to Jonathan&#8217;s talking, but as we both heard, the boy can handle himself quite well, and in many different ways. Like I said, I got whiplash as everbody bounced around. I&#8217;m glad I got to say something, anyway.</p>
<p>If you want to hear me tell a room full of people my thought on digital history, I gave a talk that&#8217;s available here:</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collectionid=2004-h2k2-digitalhistory-jasonscott&#038;collection=textfiles_audio" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collectionid=2004-h2k2-digitalhistory-jasonscott&#038;collection=textfiles_audio</a></p>
<p>Hey, go to the creative commons dinner this upcoming tuesday!</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.copynight.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.copynight.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: urbenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>urbenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice artsscene site, jason.  I&#039;ve always admired ascii art!



I wonder if there could be a program that does a test run of any &quot;exe&quot; or other virus file before it&#039;s actually opened?  It could check to see if it tries to duplicate itself or do any other of the bad things worms and virus&#039; do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice artsscene site, jason.  I&#8217;ve always admired ascii art!</p>
<p>I wonder if there could be a program that does a test run of any &#8220;exe&#8221; or other virus file before it&#8217;s actually opened?  It could check to see if it tries to duplicate itself or do any other of the bad things worms and virus&#8217; do.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith Perrolle</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/jonathan-zittrain-and-a-cyber-september-11/#comment-64330</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith Perrolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I *love* your basement! I wish you had gotten to say more on the show.  Even when we back up and archive the electronic media don&#039;t have anywhere near the shelf life of paper, papyrus, clay tablets, or stone.  We are vulnerable to losing our recorded history is we put it on computers for storage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I *love* your basement! I wish you had gotten to say more on the show.  Even when we back up and archive the electronic media don&#8217;t have anywhere near the shelf life of paper, papyrus, clay tablets, or stone.  We are vulnerable to losing our recorded history is we put it on computers for storage.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/jonathan-zittrain-and-a-cyber-september-11/#comment-64329</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my website, textfiles.com, I have many dozens of &quot;open source&quot; viruses. That&#039;s one level of it all, discussion of what they are, how they work. People do that all the time. Virus writers are a funny lot, although (and I am not kidding) some are actually deadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my website, textfiles.com, I have many dozens of &#8220;open source&#8221; viruses. That&#8217;s one level of it all, discussion of what they are, how they work. People do that all the time. Virus writers are a funny lot, although (and I am not kidding) some are actually deadly.</p>
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		<title>By: urbenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>urbenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m waiting to see a virus program that&#039;s open source.  Or could this program be edited to be a virus itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m waiting to see a virus program that&#8217;s open source.  Or could this program be edited to be a virus itself?</p>
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