Comments on: Juan Cole: Iraq in 2006 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:27:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Iraq Information Blog » Blog Archive » Article from Open Source - Juan Cole: Iraq in 2006 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67934 Iraq Information Blog » Blog Archive » Article from Open Source - Juan Cole: Iraq in 2006 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:15:37 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67934 [...] from Open Source - Juan Cole: Iraq in 2006 Blog Name: Open Source Article Title: Juan Cole: Iraq in 2006 The Informed CommenterIs the US project in Iraq “all over b [...] [...] from Open Source – Juan Cole: Iraq in 2006 Blog Name: Open Source Article Title: Juan Cole: Iraq in 2006 The Informed CommenterIs the US project in Iraq “all over b [...]

]]> By: Nikos http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67933 Nikos Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:34:14 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67933 Did anyone hear the All Things Considered segment on Monday, Jan.23rd by Lourdes Garcia Navarro (sp?) quoting Gen. Ricardo Sanchez (former honcho of the US forces in Iraq) predicting the onset of civil war? Followed by a slew of stuff that utterly vindicates Juan Cole's "overactive imagination" (to paraphrase his neocon critics)? Did anyone hear the All Things Considered segment on Monday, Jan.23rd by Lourdes Garcia Navarro (sp?) quoting Gen. Ricardo Sanchez (former honcho of the US forces in Iraq) predicting the onset of civil war? Followed by a slew of stuff that utterly vindicates Juan Cole’s “overactive imagination” (to paraphrase his neocon critics)?

]]> By: A little yellow bird http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67932 A little yellow bird Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:37:49 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67932 "Nikos": Didja see The Onion thing on the voice of God in W's ear actually being Cheney on the intercom? http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43189/print/ Also, there's a hysterical site of animation shorts that chews up and spits out the Bush misAdministration: http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/. You really need a fast WWW connection to not want to drop-kick the box as they download; but even with snail-service, it's worth it. Wait 'til you see "The Wrath of Condi: The Voyages of the Starship Enron's Prize" (on a multi-year mission to seek out new petroleum reserves, natch...). Bring Kleenex. And Valium. And sit on the floor. “Nikos”: Didja see The Onion thing on the voice of God in W’s ear actually being Cheney on the intercom? http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43189/print/ Also, there’s a hysterical site of animation shorts that chews up and spits out the Bush misAdministration: http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/. You really need a fast WWW connection to not want to drop-kick the box as they download; but even with snail-service, it’s worth it. Wait ’til you see “The Wrath of Condi: The Voyages of the Starship Enron’s Prize” (on a multi-year mission to seek out new petroleum reserves, natch…). Bring Kleenex. And Valium. And sit on the floor.

]]> By: Nikos http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67931 Nikos Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:00:18 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67931 Speakin' of suits, don't forget that star-trek-communicator puppet-string thingie stickin' up from the back of Dubya's suit in the debates! Karl must have been on the other end of that bit of weirdness. I don't much care for the president-as-head-of-state-like-a-king thing we've got in this child-of-a-royal-system republic, but since we're stuck with it, I think I'd prefer a king -- I mean prez (sorry!) -- who can think on his own two feets. Not to mention speak in articulate, multi-syllabic sentences. Don't they teach that stuff up at Yale? ;-) Speakin’ of suits, don’t forget that star-trek-communicator puppet-string thingie stickin’ up from the back of Dubya’s suit in the debates! Karl must have been on the other end of that bit of weirdness.

I don’t much care for the president-as-head-of-state-like-a-king thing we’ve got in this child-of-a-royal-system republic, but since we’re stuck with it, I think I’d prefer a king — I mean prez (sorry!) — who can think on his own two feets. Not to mention speak in articulate, multi-syllabic sentences. Don’t they teach that stuff up at Yale?
;-)

]]> By: Potter http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67930 Potter Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:12:50 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67930 Raymond, I forgot to say that Kerry seemed to me to be much more intelligent, more interested in the problems of government and the law. This was clear from the debates. Bush seems like an empty suit to me. Without a script, he's nowhere. Notso Kerry. Raymond, I forgot to say that Kerry seemed to me to be much more intelligent, more interested in the problems of government and the law. This was clear from the debates. Bush seems like an empty suit to me. Without a script, he’s nowhere. Notso Kerry.

]]> By: Potter http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67929 Potter Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:06:15 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67929 Raymond, When I voted for Kerry I was voting for someone who I felt would be first of all a president of all the people as opposed to what we have now, a partisan president. I was also voting for someone who I was certain would collect around him people of better quality than the ones we see around Bush. Think Michael Brown as head of FEMA, a disaster. I thought Kerrry would listen better to all points of view BEFORE he acted ( misconstrued, mischaracterized and consequently apparently believed as indecision and weakness). In an interview in the Atlantic Monthly Kerry espoused a philosophy of how we should be dealing with terrorist threats that I agreed with. He did not think making war in Iraq was the way to go but he felt that now that we were there we had to be responsible. I did not agree with him about what that meant. I don't think Kerry would have favored tax cuts for the rich and advocated trickle down economics. I think he would not have been so beholden to big business and the money crowd or to the religious right. I think we would have, or be on the way to having a better energy policy, if indeed we have one now. I think Kerry has more respect for the environment, much more. I think Kerry would have worked better multilaterally on global problems, political and environmental. he would not be so arrogant and hubristic. I don't think the rest of the world would think so poorly of us as they do at the moment. Kerry would not have been antagonistic towards the UN and certainly not have nominated a Bolton for instance. Regarding Supreme Court nominations I think they would not be so conservative. And finally we would have a better check and balance in our government. At the moment one party rules without much concern for the other half. So yes I was certain as one can be that Kerry would have been much better though believe me he was not in my mind ideal. Raymond, When I voted for Kerry I was voting for someone who I felt would be first of all a president of all the people as opposed to what we have now, a partisan president. I was also voting for someone who I was certain would collect around him people of better quality than the ones we see around Bush. Think Michael Brown as head of FEMA, a disaster. I thought Kerrry would listen better to all points of view BEFORE he acted ( misconstrued, mischaracterized and consequently apparently believed as indecision and weakness). In an interview in the Atlantic Monthly Kerry espoused a philosophy of how we should be dealing with terrorist threats that I agreed with. He did not think making war in Iraq was the way to go but he felt that now that we were there we had to be responsible. I did not agree with him about what that meant. I don’t think Kerry would have favored tax cuts for the rich and advocated trickle down economics. I think he would not have been so beholden to big business and the money crowd or to the religious right. I think we would have, or be on the way to having a better energy policy, if indeed we have one now. I think Kerry has more respect for the environment, much more. I think Kerry would have worked better multilaterally on global problems, political and environmental. he would not be so arrogant and hubristic. I don’t think the rest of the world would think so poorly of us as they do at the moment. Kerry would not have been antagonistic towards the UN and certainly not have nominated a Bolton for instance. Regarding Supreme Court nominations I think they would not be so conservative.

And finally we would have a better check and balance in our government. At the moment one party rules without much concern for the other half.

So yes I was certain as one can be that Kerry would have been much better though believe me he was not in my mind ideal.

]]> By: Raymond http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67928 Raymond Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:27:43 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67928 Potter, I simply do not see describing, and then defending, my vote for Bush in the last presidential election as leading to an interesting discussion. But I do not want to ignore your question. I can tell you that I was not voting _for_ the war in voting for Bush. Were you voting _against_ the war in voting for Kerry? You say that you cannot imagine Kerry would or could be worse than Bush. What you did not say is that you were certain that Kerry would be much better. And this is exactly what I concluded: neither candidate was compelling. Potter, I simply do not see describing, and then defending, my vote for Bush in the last presidential election as leading to an interesting discussion.

But I do not want to ignore your question. I can tell you that I was not voting _for_ the war in voting for Bush. Were you voting _against_ the war in voting for Kerry?

You say that you cannot imagine Kerry would or could be worse than Bush. What you did not say is that you were certain that Kerry would be much better. And this is exactly what I concluded: neither candidate was compelling.

]]> By: A little yellow bird http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67927 A little yellow bird Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:19:46 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67927 Hey! Speak of the devil--there's an extensive review of the life and mouth H.L. Mencken from 1962 or so here: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard19.html ! The man had a propensity for putting society's foibles into a full-nelson with words--or better, he served at ringside as commentator as society punched itself in the schnoz over and over through the ages. Hey! Speak of the devil–there’s an extensive review of the life and mouth H.L. Mencken from 1962 or so here: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard19.html ! The man had a propensity for putting society’s foibles into a full-nelson with words–or better, he served at ringside as commentator as society punched itself in the schnoz over and over through the ages.

]]> By: Potter http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67926 Potter Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:00:01 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67926 Raymond, after you finish with ALYB, if you would, please elaborate on why you chose Bush over Kerry. Raymond, after you finish with ALYB, if you would, please elaborate on why you chose Bush over Kerry.

]]> By: desertrose http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67925 desertrose Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:28:17 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/juan-cole-iraq-in-2006/#comment-67925 A little yellow bird: I agree with you on that one. Spreading sh*tocracy, freedom, and the usual blah blah, is made for domestic consumption: to pacify the pacified. And to that I say charity begins at home. I have never seen a supreme court intervening in any election in any democratic society. This couldn’t happen in Germany or any EU country. Didn’t the constitution ask for the separation of powers? Whatever dreams the hawks might have had about conquering the world through their manifesto of the Project for the New American Century have been DASHED by the situation on Mesopotamia, and by the reluctance of the international community to participate and issue a check for such madness. As for the Coalition of the Killing, it has already started to disintegrate. A little yellow bird: I agree with you on that one. Spreading sh*tocracy, freedom, and the usual blah blah, is made for domestic consumption: to pacify the pacified. And to that I say charity begins at home. I have never seen a supreme court intervening in any election in any democratic society. This couldn’t happen in Germany or any EU country. Didn’t the constitution ask for the separation of powers?

Whatever dreams the hawks might have had about conquering the world through their manifesto of the Project for the New American Century have been DASHED by the situation on Mesopotamia, and by the reluctance of the international community to participate and issue a check for such madness. As for the Coalition of the Killing, it has already started to disintegrate.

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