Comments on: Killing in War http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:52:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: GodzillaVsBambi http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88396 GodzillaVsBambi Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:38:52 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88396 Peggysue. I respectfully disagree with your allusion that because it is not to your personal taste to kill and torture people that America should remain in peril and under the gun of terrorism; that we should just roll over and play dead and ask the terrorists to kindly stop because we are unable to defend ourselves. I also respectfully disagree with your comment that they are “Not doing it for [you]”. They ‘are’ doing it for you. If you think that the word ‘hero’ is “Meaningless”, this simply illustrates a lack of understanding and grace on your behalf. You are in fact a sheep … but one that I wouldn’t trade for anything in the world. Now, how are those oatmeal raisin cookies coming along? Peggysue. I respectfully disagree with your allusion that because it is not to your personal taste to kill and torture people that America should remain in peril and under the gun of terrorism; that we should just roll over and play dead and ask the terrorists to kindly stop because we are unable to defend ourselves. I also respectfully disagree with your comment that they are “Not doing it for [you]”. They ‘are’ doing it for you. If you think that the word ‘hero’ is “Meaningless”, this simply illustrates a lack of understanding and grace on your behalf. You are in fact a sheep … but one that I wouldn’t trade for anything in the world. Now, how are those oatmeal raisin cookies coming along?

]]> By: Tisha http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88395 Tisha Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:30:42 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88395 I recently suggested a program based on the book War and the Soul: Healing Our Nation's Veterans from Post-traumatic Stress Disorder, by Edward Tick, Ph. D. He's a clinical psychotherapist and I met him earlier this month. He says that U.S. training to get soldiers to overcome their reluctance to kill is, on a viciousness index, more vicious than that of any other country. Someone else said that phase of the training has been moved up to come earlier in basic training. In his book Ed Tick describes a new recruit being forced to kill a small kitten in order to break down his reluctance to kil. He also describes a WWII veteran who still feels like a mass murderer tho' all he had to do was press a button in a plane over Europe to release bombs that he knew would destroy buildings and kill many civilians. A Vienam vet was just involved in surveillance but he felt responsible for the death and destruction which was enabled by what he did. So I don't think being remote from the actual people who die protects our fighters from PTSD. I hope we can have on the program someone who can describe the current U.S. training for combat in some detail. Then maybe in a later prgram we can look at how the training to kill contributes to PTSD along with the actual killing. I recently suggested a program based on the book War and the Soul: Healing Our Nation’s Veterans from Post-traumatic Stress Disorder, by Edward Tick, Ph. D. He’s a clinical psychotherapist and I met him earlier this month. He says that U.S. training to get soldiers to overcome their reluctance to kill is, on a viciousness index, more vicious than that of any other country. Someone else said that phase of the training has been moved up to come earlier in basic training. In his book Ed Tick describes a new recruit being forced to kill a small kitten in order to break down his reluctance to kil. He also describes a WWII veteran who still feels like a mass murderer tho’ all he had to do was press a button in a plane over Europe to release bombs that he knew would destroy buildings and kill many civilians. A Vienam vet was just involved in surveillance but he felt responsible for the death and destruction which was enabled by what he did. So I don’t think being remote from the actual people who die protects our fighters from PTSD. I hope we can have on the program someone who can describe the current U.S. training for combat in some detail. Then maybe in a later prgram we can look at how the training to kill contributes to PTSD along with the actual killing.

]]> By: Greg J. Smith http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88394 Greg J. Smith Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:04:49 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88394 Hi Nick, Ed writes extensively about America's Army in his text. Actually he's in my del.icio.us network and he linked this excellent documentary on militainment this morning. http://www.facebook.com/share_redirect.php?h=92163f9369d86be0295a6d7d222521f8&url=http%3A%2F%2F128.192.94.172%2FServer%2FMilitainmentWMV.wmv&sid=2443947161 Hi Nick, Ed writes extensively about America’s Army in his text.

Actually he’s in my del.icio.us network and he linked this excellent documentary on militainment this morning.

http://www.facebook.com/share_redirect.php?h=92163f9369d86be0295a6d7d222521f8&url=http%3A%2F%2F128.192.94.172%2FServer%2FMilitainmentWMV.wmv&sid=2443947161

]]> By: peacenick http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88393 peacenick Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:16:20 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88393 Please don't kill for me, and stop turning my children and grandchildren into killers. Please don’t kill for me, and stop turning my children and grandchildren into killers.

]]> By: Nick_Allen http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88392 Nick_Allen Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:04:57 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88392 Greg, reading your link between gaming and the military, I couldn't help but be reminded of <a href="http://www.americasarmy.com/" rel="nofollow">America's Army</a>, a video game developed by the U.S. Army as a recruiting tool. Greg, reading your link between gaming and the military, I couldn’t help but be reminded of America’s Army, a video game developed by the U.S. Army as a recruiting tool.

]]> By: Greg Smith http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88391 Greg Smith Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:58:27 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88391 If he hasn't already been mentioned. Ed Halter is worth looking into for this show.. his text "From Sun Tzu to Xbox" is a pretty concise discussion about the marriage of the gaming industry to the military-entertainment complex. Where other than in gamespace do young Amercans cut their teeth with a vehicular HUD or with first person shooting? http://www.fromsuntzutoxbox.com/ If he hasn’t already been mentioned. Ed Halter is worth looking into for this show.. his text “From Sun Tzu to Xbox” is a pretty concise discussion about the marriage of the gaming industry to the military-entertainment complex.

Where other than in gamespace do young Amercans cut their teeth with a vehicular HUD or with first person shooting?

http://www.fromsuntzutoxbox.com/

]]> By: wellbasically http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88390 wellbasically Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:47:33 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88390 I would like to hear something about the mechanics of developing the hijackers on Sept 11, and how they were trained to kill. I would like to hear something about the mechanics of developing the hijackers on Sept 11, and how they were trained to kill.

]]> By: rc21 http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88389 rc21 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:50:26 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88389 Valkyrie607 So did America get what it deserved ? It seems like a pretty simple question. Is America evil? You don't know. Do you have an opinion. It is pretty obvious that a nation as big and powerfull as ours has done some things that have not always worked out in a way that we would have hoped. If you think this could make us an evil country than I would have to repectfully disagree. Valkyrie607 So did America get what it deserved ? It seems like a pretty simple question.

Is America evil? You don’t know. Do you have an opinion.

It is pretty obvious that a nation as big and powerfull as ours has done some things that have not always worked out in a way that we would have hoped. If you think this could make us an evil country than I would have to repectfully disagree.

]]> By: valkyrie607 http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88388 valkyrie607 Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:07:24 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88388 Kate--Yow! Grace Paley! So cool! I met her once at an activist skillshare. Four years ago. She was part of a panel of elders sharing their experiences in resisting war and violence. Most of the questions centered around how not to lose hope or get burned out in the long-term. None of them had simple answers. It was what you might expect: take things day by day. Look to your family and friends. She was bright and funny. Kate–Yow! Grace Paley! So cool! I met her once at an activist skillshare. Four years ago. She was part of a panel of elders sharing their experiences in resisting war and violence. Most of the questions centered around how not to lose hope or get burned out in the long-term. None of them had simple answers. It was what you might expect: take things day by day. Look to your family and friends. She was bright and funny.

]]> By: valkyrie607 http://www.radioopensource.org/killing-in-war/#comment-88387 valkyrie607 Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:38:28 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=1049#comment-88387 RC21--I guess you didn't think too hard about it. "Evil America got what was coming to it." Well, America doesn't have to be evil to get what's coming to it. Plus, "America" is a pretty big concept. The government of the USA sometimes does some good things. It also does some pretty fucked-up things. So... is America evil? I don't know. Is being evil the same as doing evil things? RC21–I guess you didn’t think too hard about it. “Evil America got what was coming to it.” Well, America doesn’t have to be evil to get what’s coming to it. Plus, “America” is a pretty big concept. The government of the USA sometimes does some good things. It also does some pretty fucked-up things. So… is America evil? I don’t know. Is being evil the same as doing evil things?

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