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	<title>Comments on: London: The News about the News</title>
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		<title>By: rc21</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/london-the-news-about-the-news/#comment-92443</link>
		<dc:creator>rc21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BBC was just caught in another lie today.A false story showing the IDF bulldozing the house of the latest mass murdering terrorist. Apparently the house is still standing.



  Perhaps false reporting like this is why the media has lost so much credibility. Thank God for Blogs like Powerline, LGF, American Thinker.etc.



 Without them, Reuters,BBC along with other left leaning news outlets would carry on never having to worry about thir phoney stories being exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBC was just caught in another lie today.A false story showing the IDF bulldozing the house of the latest mass murdering terrorist. Apparently the house is still standing.</p>
<p>  Perhaps false reporting like this is why the media has lost so much credibility. Thank God for Blogs like Powerline, LGF, American Thinker.etc.</p>
<p> Without them, Reuters,BBC along with other left leaning news outlets would carry on never having to worry about thir phoney stories being exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/london-the-news-about-the-news/#comment-92442</link>
		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™m am about to give a whacked-out analogy, but for the sake of conversation I go forth with it.  The Catholic priest scandal was detestable but there is one good thing that has come from its exposure.  People will forever more discerning about whom they trust their children with.  A blind faith has been eradicated.



I feel that the bright side to the Murdoch/Moore media is the eradication of blind faith in the Cronkite-esq. voice of God media.  If we can all agree that all media is subjective, a more civil discourse is possible.



â€œI&#039;m not a slave to objectivity. I&#039;m never quite sure what it means. And it means different things to different people.â€

-Peter Jennings



Another blind faith that has been eradicated is in institutions of authority.  The bright side to the New York Times not questioning the worst foreign policy in American history is that we would all be fools give to them our full trust again.



Chris and guests ask the question about who will be the new authorities in media.  My answer is that we have been liberated from blind faith and the new freedom forces us to be our own authority.  Jacques Derrida said, â€œWe are all mediators, translators.â€ On a practical level the instrument of the internet has enabled us to employ that mediation more fully.



My worry going forward is that the next blind faith that we have to wrestle with is the idea that if itâ€™s not somewhere on the web then itâ€™s not somewhere.



â€œBut the first problem of the &quot;media&quot; is posed by what does not get translated, or even published in the dominant political languages, the ones that dictate the laws of deceivability, precisely, on the left as much as on the right.â€

-Derrida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™m am about to give a whacked-out analogy, but for the sake of conversation I go forth with it.  The Catholic priest scandal was detestable but there is one good thing that has come from its exposure.  People will forever more discerning about whom they trust their children with.  A blind faith has been eradicated.</p>
<p>I feel that the bright side to the Murdoch/Moore media is the eradication of blind faith in the Cronkite-esq. voice of God media.  If we can all agree that all media is subjective, a more civil discourse is possible.</p>
<p>â€œI&#8217;m not a slave to objectivity. I&#8217;m never quite sure what it means. And it means different things to different people.â€</p>
<p>-Peter Jennings</p>
<p>Another blind faith that has been eradicated is in institutions of authority.  The bright side to the New York Times not questioning the worst foreign policy in American history is that we would all be fools give to them our full trust again.</p>
<p>Chris and guests ask the question about who will be the new authorities in media.  My answer is that we have been liberated from blind faith and the new freedom forces us to be our own authority.  Jacques Derrida said, â€œWe are all mediators, translators.â€ On a practical level the instrument of the internet has enabled us to employ that mediation more fully.</p>
<p>My worry going forward is that the next blind faith that we have to wrestle with is the idea that if itâ€™s not somewhere on the web then itâ€™s not somewhere.</p>
<p>â€œBut the first problem of the &#8220;media&#8221; is posed by what does not get translated, or even published in the dominant political languages, the ones that dictate the laws of deceivability, precisely, on the left as much as on the right.â€</p>
<p>-Derrida</p>
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		<title>By: Marc McElroy</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/london-the-news-about-the-news/#comment-92441</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc McElroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Masha Lipman made some good points about Russia, but her dismal predictions for the future of the internet in Russian may be a bit too rooted in the 20th century.    True the Kremlin has dominated the crucial first 6 channels, traditionally state run TV from back in the days where there was only 6 channels.    Itâ€™s true that they use this control to marginalize opposition and push their agenda.     They do this effectively on many levels, so effectively that Russia does have a free press, you can print whatever you want, no one will read it.



One can look at this and say the Kremlin has a death grip on the media, you can say the internet doesnâ€™t compete, but only if  you are stuck in the mindset that the internet of 10 years from now will bare any resemblance to what we know it to be today.   The internet of today is nothing like the internet of 10 years ago, and will continue to change.   The internet becomes exponentially faster, and exponentially important.    Russians are rapidly getting high speed internet.   In a city like Moscow, which has just surpassed London in cost of living, a smokinâ€™ hot fast connection can be had for $25.    For $25 a month I get a 6000kbps with an outrageously fast upload, and free Wi-Fi anywhere in the city, oh and with basic cable, in the US this is about $80-$100 worth of service.    If you want DSL, you can get some sort of connection for about $10 or so.   Just like the cell phone took off because of the lack an acceptable telephone infrastructure, the internet will take off as the news and entertainment source.    Television and Radio are the 20th century, in 10 or 20 years we will have our news and entertainment delivered to us directly over the internet.   It doesnâ€™t matter if you control Channel 1 if no one has rabbit ears anymore.



In this by allowing an uncensored internet the Kremlin has taken their eye off the ball.  The internet of 10 or 20 years from now will make blogging look like the telegraph, and make the TV of today look like the TV of 50 years ago.    The longer the Russian internet is allowed to grow and develop out of the Kremlin control, the stronger it will become, the more it will enter peopleâ€™s everyday life.    The more that the forces of the left are pushed out of the mainstream, the more likely they will become internet pioneers.   True the opposition has yet to capitalize on any of this, but give it time.



The internet is the future, the television is the past.   So, by her assertion that the internet exchange fails to have any effect, she may be right in the present tense, but predicting that this is the future of the internet in Russian life is a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Masha Lipman made some good points about Russia, but her dismal predictions for the future of the internet in Russian may be a bit too rooted in the 20th century.    True the Kremlin has dominated the crucial first 6 channels, traditionally state run TV from back in the days where there was only 6 channels.    Itâ€™s true that they use this control to marginalize opposition and push their agenda.     They do this effectively on many levels, so effectively that Russia does have a free press, you can print whatever you want, no one will read it.</p>
<p>One can look at this and say the Kremlin has a death grip on the media, you can say the internet doesnâ€™t compete, but only if  you are stuck in the mindset that the internet of 10 years from now will bare any resemblance to what we know it to be today.   The internet of today is nothing like the internet of 10 years ago, and will continue to change.   The internet becomes exponentially faster, and exponentially important.    Russians are rapidly getting high speed internet.   In a city like Moscow, which has just surpassed London in cost of living, a smokinâ€™ hot fast connection can be had for $25.    For $25 a month I get a 6000kbps with an outrageously fast upload, and free Wi-Fi anywhere in the city, oh and with basic cable, in the US this is about $80-$100 worth of service.    If you want DSL, you can get some sort of connection for about $10 or so.   Just like the cell phone took off because of the lack an acceptable telephone infrastructure, the internet will take off as the news and entertainment source.    Television and Radio are the 20th century, in 10 or 20 years we will have our news and entertainment delivered to us directly over the internet.   It doesnâ€™t matter if you control Channel 1 if no one has rabbit ears anymore.</p>
<p>In this by allowing an uncensored internet the Kremlin has taken their eye off the ball.  The internet of 10 or 20 years from now will make blogging look like the telegraph, and make the TV of today look like the TV of 50 years ago.    The longer the Russian internet is allowed to grow and develop out of the Kremlin control, the stronger it will become, the more it will enter peopleâ€™s everyday life.    The more that the forces of the left are pushed out of the mainstream, the more likely they will become internet pioneers.   True the opposition has yet to capitalize on any of this, but give it time.</p>
<p>The internet is the future, the television is the past.   So, by her assertion that the internet exchange fails to have any effect, she may be right in the present tense, but predicting that this is the future of the internet in Russian life is a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/london-the-news-about-the-news/#comment-92440</link>
		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where, pray, was Roger &quot;Tallyho the Fox&quot; Scruton? UK press culture a glory of sorts, near and abroad, long ago and sometimes of late. Remember when The Guardian had the largest foreign bureau? The broadsheet Independent of the 90s the most beautiful newspaper I&#039;ve seen. Excellent writing and a sense of visual mystery on every page. Its decline a sorrow to British journalists I&#039;ve met, and to me. Even its cultural pages have gone south. The Financial Times still a fine paper on a reportorial level, but barking on matters editorial, though often culturally up to snuff, no matter the column on &quot;motoring.&quot; The Times maybe the most dire decline of all, The paper of record become a tabloid extravaganza of things you&#039;re somehow coerced to think you want to know someting about but properly shouldn&#039;t. The Guardian still vital but compromised in ways I can&#039;t put an answer to. Answers, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where, pray, was Roger &#8220;Tallyho the Fox&#8221; Scruton? UK press culture a glory of sorts, near and abroad, long ago and sometimes of late. Remember when The Guardian had the largest foreign bureau? The broadsheet Independent of the 90s the most beautiful newspaper I&#8217;ve seen. Excellent writing and a sense of visual mystery on every page. Its decline a sorrow to British journalists I&#8217;ve met, and to me. Even its cultural pages have gone south. The Financial Times still a fine paper on a reportorial level, but barking on matters editorial, though often culturally up to snuff, no matter the column on &#8220;motoring.&#8221; The Times maybe the most dire decline of all, The paper of record become a tabloid extravaganza of things you&#8217;re somehow coerced to think you want to know someting about but properly shouldn&#8217;t. The Guardian still vital but compromised in ways I can&#8217;t put an answer to. Answers, anyone?</p>
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