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	<title>Comments on: Notes from Summer Camp: I am not Tom Friedman</title>
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		<title>By: peggysue</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/notes-from-summer-camp-i-am-not-tom-friedman/#comment-91494</link>
		<dc:creator>peggysue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you flow,



May the Mother Earth Goddess, Gaia, be as merciful and forgiving as she is generous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you flow,</p>
<p>May the Mother Earth Goddess, Gaia, be as merciful and forgiving as she is generous.</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/notes-from-summer-camp-i-am-not-tom-friedman/#comment-91493</link>
		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sophia

Bride of the Almighty,

Mother of the living Christ our redeemer,

Light our way,

Enlighten us,

Deliver us from ignorance,

Free us from bondage,

Guide us to your garden of earthly delights.



There that&#039;s better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sophia</p>
<p>Bride of the Almighty,</p>
<p>Mother of the living Christ our redeemer,</p>
<p>Light our way,</p>
<p>Enlighten us,</p>
<p>Deliver us from ignorance,</p>
<p>Free us from bondage,</p>
<p>Guide us to your garden of earthly delights.</p>
<p>There that&#8217;s better.</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/notes-from-summer-camp-i-am-not-tom-friedman/#comment-91492</link>
		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, did I say kingdom? I meant garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, did I say kingdom? I meant garden.</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/notes-from-summer-camp-i-am-not-tom-friedman/#comment-91491</link>
		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well done peggysue and well said.



kudos to you, may peace be upon you.



may the fruits of the 8 fold path nourish and keep you.



and now a prayer for us all.



dear Sophia,

bride of the Almighty and mother of the living Christ our redeemer,

light our way, enlighten us,

lead out of this darkness,

free us from our bondage,

that we may return to dwell again in your kingdom one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well done peggysue and well said.</p>
<p>kudos to you, may peace be upon you.</p>
<p>may the fruits of the 8 fold path nourish and keep you.</p>
<p>and now a prayer for us all.</p>
<p>dear Sophia,</p>
<p>bride of the Almighty and mother of the living Christ our redeemer,</p>
<p>light our way, enlighten us,</p>
<p>lead out of this darkness,</p>
<p>free us from our bondage,</p>
<p>that we may return to dwell again in your kingdom one day.</p>
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		<title>By: peggysue</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/notes-from-summer-camp-i-am-not-tom-friedman/#comment-91490</link>
		<dc:creator>peggysue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>flow, What I was trying to do by mentioning my personal participation in culture &amp; politics is demonstrate their reality as opposed to abstractness. When I show my paintings or put together an art show in the Whale Museum where I work (which may be a better example than my own painting which is abstract but still &quot;real&quot; in the way I&#039;m speaking) hopefully this is a real way to raise the consciousness of human beings in my culture with regard to the needs of other species most especially whales. When I particiate in meetings at Town Hall in my town I am instrumental in enforcing a Town code that has a direct and very real effect on what is built in my town. These are small but very real ways I participate in culture and politics. What I&#039;m saying is participation in politics and culture is an important tool for change. I&#039;m not at all denying the importance of imagination. Imagination is critical but we have to act on our imagination in real ways. Yes, we need to consider the law of thermodynamics and then with our understanding of that law we may need to pass a law to restrict Exxon Mobile from generating pollution that will raise our global temperature.



Martin Luther King in a talk about loving your enemies talked about turning the other cheek but also added as an aside that he was still glad there were laws against murder because he didn&#039;t want to be lynched. He was a spiritual leader but also a political leader. He got the Civil Rights Act passed. In doing that he brought an abstract idea to fruition in the real world through action. Ideally he wanted to get rid of racism. In the meantime he wanted laws that would allow black people to vote. The Dalai Lama is also a spiritual AND a political leader. The 3rd Noble Truth in Buddhism is that there is a way to stop suffering. The 4th noble truth is that the 8fold path is the way. The 4th step on the 8fold path is right ACTION. That is not a negation of steps 1 &amp; 2 which are right understanding and right thought but it is equally important on the path to nirvana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flow, What I was trying to do by mentioning my personal participation in culture &amp; politics is demonstrate their reality as opposed to abstractness. When I show my paintings or put together an art show in the Whale Museum where I work (which may be a better example than my own painting which is abstract but still &#8220;real&#8221; in the way I&#8217;m speaking) hopefully this is a real way to raise the consciousness of human beings in my culture with regard to the needs of other species most especially whales. When I particiate in meetings at Town Hall in my town I am instrumental in enforcing a Town code that has a direct and very real effect on what is built in my town. These are small but very real ways I participate in culture and politics. What I&#8217;m saying is participation in politics and culture is an important tool for change. I&#8217;m not at all denying the importance of imagination. Imagination is critical but we have to act on our imagination in real ways. Yes, we need to consider the law of thermodynamics and then with our understanding of that law we may need to pass a law to restrict Exxon Mobile from generating pollution that will raise our global temperature.</p>
<p>Martin Luther King in a talk about loving your enemies talked about turning the other cheek but also added as an aside that he was still glad there were laws against murder because he didn&#8217;t want to be lynched. He was a spiritual leader but also a political leader. He got the Civil Rights Act passed. In doing that he brought an abstract idea to fruition in the real world through action. Ideally he wanted to get rid of racism. In the meantime he wanted laws that would allow black people to vote. The Dalai Lama is also a spiritual AND a political leader. The 3rd Noble Truth in Buddhism is that there is a way to stop suffering. The 4th noble truth is that the 8fold path is the way. The 4th step on the 8fold path is right ACTION. That is not a negation of steps 1 &amp; 2 which are right understanding and right thought but it is equally important on the path to nirvana.</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
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		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peggysue,



First, let me say thanks for sharing and I appreciate your perspective.



I have a few questions. Please name one &quot;act&quot; that we can take &quot;collectively&quot; to effect global warming?



With regard to the &quot;giant footsteps&quot; of &quot;huge corporation&quot;, what size shoes do giant corporation wear? Exxon Mobil for instance ought to be able to afford some pretty snappy shoes with all those bucks it&#039;s racking in, right?



You imagine your art work as &quot;direct participation in culture&quot; or going to the town hall and taking notes as &quot;directly participating in politics&quot;, (assuming you&#039;re a painter) is the act of painting something secondary to cultural participation? and what becomes of the  dialogue in the town hall?



I do not intended to deny the validity of culture and politics, both are purposeful and instructive conceptions.  However, when we allow the abstract to &quot;seem pretty real&quot; we enter a sort of Alice in Wonderland existence.  In the USA we have entered into a sort of malaise where we feel disempowered at the individual level precisely because we are conditioned to expect the needed change to occur somewhere else.  This provides us with a sort psychological sanctuary that allows us to rationalize our individual behavior.  We get into a conversation with a neighbor at the gas pump about those dirty politicians who are letting corporations ruin everything.



You say &quot;I alone cannot stop a huge corporation&quot; and I say imagination is the powerful force in existence.  There is not a single corporation in &quot;existence&quot; that was not imagined into being a single individual or small group of individuals.  Every corporation you can name is run by about 12 (or fewer) PEOPLE.  And finally, corporations are a &quot;legal entity&quot; endowed with certain rights, they are primarily an accounting entity.  They thrive on currency.  The currency derived from transactions. That is to say they are transactional entities.  Consider the word

&quot;transaction&quot;, between actions, ultimately the acts of individuals.



If we wish to &quot;turn around from our current destructive course&quot; there is only one &quot;law&quot; we need consider.  The law of thermonuclear dynamics. If we, the human species, wish to survive, we need to reduce entropy. It is really just that simple. Isn&#039;t it?



What we are experiencing is a crisis of values.  Our socio-economic institutions and the our current geo-political quagmire are all manifestations of our values. The climatic conditions we are presented with are the consequence of actions. Actions are the product of motivation.  Motivation is function of paradigm. Values are the substance of paradigm. Values are informed by imagination.  Who was it that said the fires of hell are the wages of sin? What is the third noble truth in Buddhism?



Let us make this our creed: Reduce entropy! or how about this: &quot;be the change you wish to see in the world&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peggysue,</p>
<p>First, let me say thanks for sharing and I appreciate your perspective.</p>
<p>I have a few questions. Please name one &#8220;act&#8221; that we can take &#8220;collectively&#8221; to effect global warming?</p>
<p>With regard to the &#8220;giant footsteps&#8221; of &#8220;huge corporation&#8221;, what size shoes do giant corporation wear? Exxon Mobil for instance ought to be able to afford some pretty snappy shoes with all those bucks it&#8217;s racking in, right?</p>
<p>You imagine your art work as &#8220;direct participation in culture&#8221; or going to the town hall and taking notes as &#8220;directly participating in politics&#8221;, (assuming you&#8217;re a painter) is the act of painting something secondary to cultural participation? and what becomes of the  dialogue in the town hall?</p>
<p>I do not intended to deny the validity of culture and politics, both are purposeful and instructive conceptions.  However, when we allow the abstract to &#8220;seem pretty real&#8221; we enter a sort of Alice in Wonderland existence.  In the USA we have entered into a sort of malaise where we feel disempowered at the individual level precisely because we are conditioned to expect the needed change to occur somewhere else.  This provides us with a sort psychological sanctuary that allows us to rationalize our individual behavior.  We get into a conversation with a neighbor at the gas pump about those dirty politicians who are letting corporations ruin everything.</p>
<p>You say &#8220;I alone cannot stop a huge corporation&#8221; and I say imagination is the powerful force in existence.  There is not a single corporation in &#8220;existence&#8221; that was not imagined into being a single individual or small group of individuals.  Every corporation you can name is run by about 12 (or fewer) PEOPLE.  And finally, corporations are a &#8220;legal entity&#8221; endowed with certain rights, they are primarily an accounting entity.  They thrive on currency.  The currency derived from transactions. That is to say they are transactional entities.  Consider the word</p>
<p>&#8220;transaction&#8221;, between actions, ultimately the acts of individuals.</p>
<p>If we wish to &#8220;turn around from our current destructive course&#8221; there is only one &#8220;law&#8221; we need consider.  The law of thermonuclear dynamics. If we, the human species, wish to survive, we need to reduce entropy. It is really just that simple. Isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>What we are experiencing is a crisis of values.  Our socio-economic institutions and the our current geo-political quagmire are all manifestations of our values. The climatic conditions we are presented with are the consequence of actions. Actions are the product of motivation.  Motivation is function of paradigm. Values are the substance of paradigm. Values are informed by imagination.  Who was it that said the fires of hell are the wages of sin? What is the third noble truth in Buddhism?</p>
<p>Let us make this our creed: Reduce entropy! or how about this: &#8220;be the change you wish to see in the world&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: peggysue</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/notes-from-summer-camp-i-am-not-tom-friedman/#comment-91488</link>
		<dc:creator>peggysue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>flow, &quot;Politics and culture are abstractions&quot; hmmmm, I respectfully disagree. Ideas about politics &amp; culture may get pretty abstract but day to day culture and politics seem pretty real to me, it is how we human beings interact. As an artist I think of my work as direct participation in culture. When I go to Town Hall and take notes I directly participate in politics. I think we need individuals to participate more in real &quot;boots on the ground&quot; culture and politics. (Oh dear, another military metaphor). IMO we need to act both individually AND collectively through culture and politics to turn around from our current destructive course. Individual actions are important but so is leadership. For example I think due to the leadership/education of someone like Al Gore many individuals may change their personal behavior, make that paradigm shift. It won&#039;t happen in a vacuum. I individually can modify my own behavior but I alone cannot stop a huge corporation from making giant footsteps toward destruction. That is what we need laws for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flow, &#8220;Politics and culture are abstractions&#8221; hmmmm, I respectfully disagree. Ideas about politics &amp; culture may get pretty abstract but day to day culture and politics seem pretty real to me, it is how we human beings interact. As an artist I think of my work as direct participation in culture. When I go to Town Hall and take notes I directly participate in politics. I think we need individuals to participate more in real &#8220;boots on the ground&#8221; culture and politics. (Oh dear, another military metaphor). IMO we need to act both individually AND collectively through culture and politics to turn around from our current destructive course. Individual actions are important but so is leadership. For example I think due to the leadership/education of someone like Al Gore many individuals may change their personal behavior, make that paradigm shift. It won&#8217;t happen in a vacuum. I individually can modify my own behavior but I alone cannot stop a huge corporation from making giant footsteps toward destruction. That is what we need laws for.</p>
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		<title>By: tomr</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/notes-from-summer-camp-i-am-not-tom-friedman/#comment-91487</link>
		<dc:creator>tomr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>def. Car: personal carbon emitter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>def. Car: personal carbon emitter</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/notes-from-summer-camp-i-am-not-tom-friedman/#comment-91486</link>
		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a correction with apology:



...suffering an acute form of cognitive dissonance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a correction with apology:</p>
<p>&#8230;suffering an acute form of cognitive dissonance&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
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		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning leadership and the resolution to our climate predicament.



This is a frightfully intriguing circumstance because it is permeated with the most intense irony and paralyzing paradox.



It is a problem that plagues us globally (collectively), yet itâ€™s resolution can only be effected personally (individually).



May I offer a proposition for consideration: no one will lead us out of global warming.  At essence, it is not a question of policy or diplomacy or security, it is a question rooted in paradigm.  The symptoms that characterize global warming are the consequence of actions.  Actions are inspired by motivation.  Motivation is determined by paradigm (the way you see the world, more specifically the way you imagine the world). Only inspired imagination will light â€œthe way out ofâ€ our current predicament.



Who was it that said, â€œI have met the enemy and he is usâ€?



Who was it that said, â€œwe are entering a period of consequenceâ€?



Who was it that said, â€œbe the change you wish to see in the worldâ€?



Who was it that said, â€œwe have nothing to fear but fear itself?â€



What we are experiencing is crisis of values stemming from and rooted in a misfiring of imagination.  Will we allow fear to cripple reason and pitch us into the fires of hell?  Or will we accept personal responsibility and respond accordingly? Those of us that would look to â€œleadershipâ€ or â€œpoliticsâ€ to â€œsolveâ€ the â€œproblemâ€ are suffering an acute form of cogitative dissonance.  Politics and culture are abstractions, abstractions do not melt ice caps or fire up automobiles or eat apples from Chile or shop for bargains Wal-Mart.



As long as we insist on the primacy of the individual and competition and fail to see the manifest reality of our co-dependence and the necessity of cooperation, we seal our fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning leadership and the resolution to our climate predicament.</p>
<p>This is a frightfully intriguing circumstance because it is permeated with the most intense irony and paralyzing paradox.</p>
<p>It is a problem that plagues us globally (collectively), yet itâ€™s resolution can only be effected personally (individually).</p>
<p>May I offer a proposition for consideration: no one will lead us out of global warming.  At essence, it is not a question of policy or diplomacy or security, it is a question rooted in paradigm.  The symptoms that characterize global warming are the consequence of actions.  Actions are inspired by motivation.  Motivation is determined by paradigm (the way you see the world, more specifically the way you imagine the world). Only inspired imagination will light â€œthe way out ofâ€ our current predicament.</p>
<p>Who was it that said, â€œI have met the enemy and he is usâ€?</p>
<p>Who was it that said, â€œwe are entering a period of consequenceâ€?</p>
<p>Who was it that said, â€œbe the change you wish to see in the worldâ€?</p>
<p>Who was it that said, â€œwe have nothing to fear but fear itself?â€</p>
<p>What we are experiencing is crisis of values stemming from and rooted in a misfiring of imagination.  Will we allow fear to cripple reason and pitch us into the fires of hell?  Or will we accept personal responsibility and respond accordingly? Those of us that would look to â€œleadershipâ€ or â€œpoliticsâ€ to â€œsolveâ€ the â€œproblemâ€ are suffering an acute form of cogitative dissonance.  Politics and culture are abstractions, abstractions do not melt ice caps or fire up automobiles or eat apples from Chile or shop for bargains Wal-Mart.</p>
<p>As long as we insist on the primacy of the individual and competition and fail to see the manifest reality of our co-dependence and the necessity of cooperation, we seal our fate.</p>
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