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		<title>By: 100 Ivy League Computer Science Courses You Can Take for Free Online &#124; Web Online Law Degree</title>
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		<description>[...] One Laptop Per Child?: Listen to a podcast about the Digital Revolution&#8217;s version of No Child Left Behind. [Brown] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 100 Ivy League Computer Science Courses You Can Take for Free Online &#124; Online Degree Hub</title>
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		<dc:creator>100 Ivy League Computer Science Courses You Can Take for Free Online &#124; Online Degree Hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One Laptop Per Child?: Listen to a podcast about the Digital Revolution&#8217;s version of No Child Left Behind. [Brown] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: south america laptop for every student program</title>
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		<dc:creator>south america laptop for every student program</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pennsylvania has announced that all high school students will be provided with laptops. ...http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/HP, NetSchools Partner t [...]</description>
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		<title>By: south america laptop for every student program</title>
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		<dc:creator>south america laptop for every student program</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pennsylvania has announced that all high school students will be provided with laptops. ...http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/Weekly column from South [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Build Rapid Credit The Knowledge And Resources To Do Just That. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Build Rapid Credit The Knowledge And Resources To Do Just That. &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: One laptop per child &#187; Venda. OrientaÃ§Ã£o para vendas</title>
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		<dc:creator>One laptop per child &#187; Venda. OrientaÃ§Ã£o para vendas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sa idÃ©ia seria bom e para isso vai tentar convencer os pacientes a mudar suas atitudes.   Open Source Â» Blog Archive Â» One  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: one laptop for every child news</title>
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		<dc:creator>one laptop for every child news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] .. the notion of having every child in their country have a laptop is a brilliant idea. ...http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/Elonex ONE - Vision of t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] .. the notion of having every child in their country have a laptop is a brilliant idea. &#8230;http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/Elonex ONE &#8211; Vision of t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: One Cellphone Per Child? Ethnographic Insight and Individualism &#171; Disparate</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Cellphone Per Child? Ethnographic Insight and Individualism &#171; Disparate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ic device&#8221; but it can also be a way to integrate technology in social networks. On a Radio Open Source episode on the OLPC, cellphones were very briefly mentioned as an alternat [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Cisler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Cisler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m running a Google group for info in Spanish/Portuguese (some paraphrased from Vota&#039;s site) because several of the countries on the A list are in the region, but many people can&#039;t read all the English chatter and news.  Evidently there are some scholars in Peru who are very critical of the whole pedagogical assumptions behind the apps and o.s.  Others are quite excited about shaking up the educational establishment(s) and support this. Others see it as a typical MIT top-down project (like the expensive  LINCOS telecenters in Costa Rica and Dom.Republic.  

Having worked on some ICT projects in Latin America, Jordan, and Uganda, I have seen people decide not to provide some resources (like a library or a needed classroom) so they could have computers. When you are short of supplies it can be hard to turn down gifts, even if they may not be top priority. A researcher at U. of Washington has worked on a very interesting topic: the cost of a free computer. My guess is that we won&#039;t know the training and support costs for quite a while, and what holds true in Libya may be totally irrelevant in Uruguay or Rwanda.  I am also curious about how the kids will protect their machines. Many live in places with very poor security, low trust, and objects of value are hard to protect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running a Google group for info in Spanish/Portuguese (some paraphrased from Vota&#8217;s site) because several of the countries on the A list are in the region, but many people can&#8217;t read all the English chatter and news.  Evidently there are some scholars in Peru who are very critical of the whole pedagogical assumptions behind the apps and o.s.  Others are quite excited about shaking up the educational establishment(s) and support this. Others see it as a typical MIT top-down project (like the expensive  LINCOS telecenters in Costa Rica and Dom.Republic.  </p>
<p>Having worked on some ICT projects in Latin America, Jordan, and Uganda, I have seen people decide not to provide some resources (like a library or a needed classroom) so they could have computers. When you are short of supplies it can be hard to turn down gifts, even if they may not be top priority. A researcher at U. of Washington has worked on a very interesting topic: the cost of a free computer. My guess is that we won&#8217;t know the training and support costs for quite a while, and what holds true in Libya may be totally irrelevant in Uruguay or Rwanda.  I am also curious about how the kids will protect their machines. Many live in places with very poor security, low trust, and objects of value are hard to protect.</p>
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		<title>By: Laptops and Leapfrog &#171; Disparate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laptops and Leapfrog &#171; Disparate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eaning to blog about this for a while, especially after listening to this podcast episode: Open Source Â» Blog Archive Â» One Laptop Per Child? Quite insightful, in my mind, and they  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Dunbar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Dunbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll listen to this program today: my skepticism around this project is pretty basic; people don&#039;t value gifts nearly as much as they do something earned.  It&#039;s an awesome amount of capital to invest in just &#039;giving&#039; somebody something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll listen to this program today: my skepticism around this project is pretty basic; people don&#8217;t value gifts nearly as much as they do something earned.  It&#8217;s an awesome amount of capital to invest in just &#8216;giving&#8217; somebody something.</p>
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		<title>By: Choogler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Choogler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it definitely sounds like a nifty device, I don&#039;t see any educational benefit.  If anything, I&#039;ve found computers to be more of a distraction from education than anything else.  That was definitely the case at my university, where computer labs filled with the latest and greatest technology are going to waste.  Why read literature and meet friends over beers when one could instead play Yahoo! Pool and have superficial friendships on MySpace?  Walk through any dorm, library, or coffee shop at any major university and you&#039;ll see computers doing more to waste away hours than to enlighten.

As for as teaching these poor children essential technical skills for the 21st century economy, that goal is way off target.  Learning basic skills on a computer isn&#039;t that hard and is much less important than developing basic math and reading abilities.  Knowing how to solve a problem and understand the results is much more valuable than being able to tabulate the results in Excel.  What these kids really need is a low-tech solution that&#039;s much more difficult than manufacturing computers: stable governments and stable economies where schools can actually be established and operate without being torn to bits by coups and civil wars.  Once that&#039;s accomplished, the children might have a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it definitely sounds like a nifty device, I don&#8217;t see any educational benefit.  If anything, I&#8217;ve found computers to be more of a distraction from education than anything else.  That was definitely the case at my university, where computer labs filled with the latest and greatest technology are going to waste.  Why read literature and meet friends over beers when one could instead play Yahoo! Pool and have superficial friendships on MySpace?  Walk through any dorm, library, or coffee shop at any major university and you&#8217;ll see computers doing more to waste away hours than to enlighten.</p>
<p>As for as teaching these poor children essential technical skills for the 21st century economy, that goal is way off target.  Learning basic skills on a computer isn&#8217;t that hard and is much less important than developing basic math and reading abilities.  Knowing how to solve a problem and understand the results is much more valuable than being able to tabulate the results in Excel.  What these kids really need is a low-tech solution that&#8217;s much more difficult than manufacturing computers: stable governments and stable economies where schools can actually be established and operate without being torn to bits by coups and civil wars.  Once that&#8217;s accomplished, the children might have a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Fino-Radin</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-45372</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Fino-Radin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious about the impact this will have on the environment. Sure it&#039;s green on the outside, but is it &quot;green&quot; on the inside? One would hope this would be a priority. I wonder if the children in developing nations who are exposed to the toxic chemicals of computer waste in landfills are a potential consumer of the XO?

http://www.greenpeace.org/apple/itox.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious about the impact this will have on the environment. Sure it&#8217;s green on the outside, but is it &#8220;green&#8221; on the inside? One would hope this would be a priority. I wonder if the children in developing nations who are exposed to the toxic chemicals of computer waste in landfills are a potential consumer of the XO?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greenpeace.org/apple/itox.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenpeace.org/apple/itox.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: houstonDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>houstonDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad Nigeria is interested.  Once that Nigerian prince puts those millions of dollars in my bank account, I&#039;ll happily donate some of my gains to buy some of those OLPC&#039;s for the kids there.

I gave him my bank account number a few weeks ago, and I should be getting rich real soon.  The e-mail said so, so it&#039;s on the level, right?

On another topic: why do some of these regimes want OLPC&#039;s?  For example, the Wikipedia article on Nigeria has the string &quot;corrupt&quot; (so, corruption would be included) about 15 times.  Is the government going to censor the information or are the citizen-children be able to learn the truth about their rulers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad Nigeria is interested.  Once that Nigerian prince puts those millions of dollars in my bank account, I&#8217;ll happily donate some of my gains to buy some of those OLPC&#8217;s for the kids there.</p>
<p>I gave him my bank account number a few weeks ago, and I should be getting rich real soon.  The e-mail said so, so it&#8217;s on the level, right?</p>
<p>On another topic: why do some of these regimes want OLPC&#8217;s?  For example, the Wikipedia article on Nigeria has the string &#8220;corrupt&#8221; (so, corruption would be included) about 15 times.  Is the government going to censor the information or are the citizen-children be able to learn the truth about their rulers?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyZ</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-45273</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As guests on the show explained, the OLPC computer presents exciting new opportunities as well as potential new challenges.  There has been nothing quite like this before.  

Nonetheless, experience with school laptop programs in the United States has taught us a number of things.  For example, after a year or two of experience there is widespread support for these programs from students, teachers, parents, school administrators, and the public.  That has been the case in Maine and in Henrico County, Virginia, sites of the biggest state and district laptop programs in the U.S., where there has also been continuing political support even after the initial &quot;champions&quot; of the program (such as Gov. Angus King in Maine) left office.  We have also learned that it takes time, money, and effort for all involved to learn how to use laptops well to support learning in school.

Laptop programs in the U.S. continue to expand.  For example, Pennsylvania has announced that all high school students will be provided with laptops.  

Those interested in finding out more about schools&#039; experiences with so-called one-to-one computing can find information at these Web sites:


http://ubiqcomputing.org/
http://www.k12one2one.org/
http://www.aalf.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As guests on the show explained, the OLPC computer presents exciting new opportunities as well as potential new challenges.  There has been nothing quite like this before.  </p>
<p>Nonetheless, experience with school laptop programs in the United States has taught us a number of things.  For example, after a year or two of experience there is widespread support for these programs from students, teachers, parents, school administrators, and the public.  That has been the case in Maine and in Henrico County, Virginia, sites of the biggest state and district laptop programs in the U.S., where there has also been continuing political support even after the initial &#8220;champions&#8221; of the program (such as Gov. Angus King in Maine) left office.  We have also learned that it takes time, money, and effort for all involved to learn how to use laptops well to support learning in school.</p>
<p>Laptop programs in the U.S. continue to expand.  For example, Pennsylvania has announced that all high school students will be provided with laptops.  </p>
<p>Those interested in finding out more about schools&#8217; experiences with so-called one-to-one computing can find information at these Web sites:</p>
<p><a href="http://ubiqcomputing.org/" rel="nofollow">http://ubiqcomputing.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.k12one2one.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.k12one2one.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.aalf.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aalf.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: samrmadden</title>
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		<dc:creator>samrmadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey by any chance could you put a picture of the laptop up?</description>
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		<title>By: &#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; The good part of yesterday&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; The good part of yesterday&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ang out with Chris Lydon for an hour, live, on the air on Radio Open Source. The topic was the One Laptop Per Child project, and Chris and I goofed around a prototype of the machine i [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cherot</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-44953</link>
		<dc:creator>cherot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My prediction is that putting all this computing power in the hands of people in developing counties will unleash a huge wave of talent and innovation.  If you consider that intelligence (unlike wealth and education) is probably distributed evenly throughout the world&#039;s population, then there must be many budding Steve Jobs who are currently herding cattle and carrying water in the developing world.  If even a small percentage of them get access to the knowledge and distribution channels of the larger world there is no telling what they will be able to produce.

Also, I wouldn&#039;t bet against Negroponte&#039;s predictions for the future.  Some predictions of his that many originally scoffed at:

    * Architects using computers
    * Personal/home computers
    * The demise of time sharing
    * The demise of the (printed) newspaper
    * Mainframes morphing into servers
    * Raster displays
    * Digital TV
    * E-commerce
    * User-generated content</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My prediction is that putting all this computing power in the hands of people in developing counties will unleash a huge wave of talent and innovation.  If you consider that intelligence (unlike wealth and education) is probably distributed evenly throughout the world&#8217;s population, then there must be many budding Steve Jobs who are currently herding cattle and carrying water in the developing world.  If even a small percentage of them get access to the knowledge and distribution channels of the larger world there is no telling what they will be able to produce.</p>
<p>Also, I wouldn&#8217;t bet against Negroponte&#8217;s predictions for the future.  Some predictions of his that many originally scoffed at:</p>
<p>    * Architects using computers<br />
    * Personal/home computers<br />
    * The demise of time sharing<br />
    * The demise of the (printed) newspaper<br />
    * Mainframes morphing into servers<br />
    * Raster displays<br />
    * Digital TV<br />
    * E-commerce<br />
    * User-generated content</p>
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		<title>By: John R. Ford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John R. Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to this program and others on this really cool device i can see alot of possibilities.  I&#039;m wondering though, what is the possibility of having an open source hardware basis as well as software.  I mean publishing engineering data on how to manufacture all of the components of the laptop. this could allow competition to keep the cost of components low, they could be more locally available, and most importantly it could allow for an open source evolution of the hardware and new techonology as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to this program and others on this really cool device i can see alot of possibilities.  I&#8217;m wondering though, what is the possibility of having an open source hardware basis as well as software.  I mean publishing engineering data on how to manufacture all of the components of the laptop. this could allow competition to keep the cost of components low, they could be more locally available, and most importantly it could allow for an open source evolution of the hardware and new techonology as well.</p>
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		<title>By: highline5</title>
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		<dc:creator>highline5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wonderful step forward for developing countries, but what about our kids here at home?  This type of tool would be an amazing way to bridge the &quot;digital divide&quot;, but as districts and states are typically left on their own in terms of technology aquisition, a minimum purchase of 1 million units is out of reach for many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wonderful step forward for developing countries, but what about our kids here at home?  This type of tool would be an amazing way to bridge the &#8220;digital divide&#8221;, but as districts and states are typically left on their own in terms of technology aquisition, a minimum purchase of 1 million units is out of reach for many.</p>
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		<title>By: UtahOwl</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-44837</link>
		<dc:creator>UtahOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From most of the comments, it is very hard for us to put ourselves in the place of the majority of poor kids in the developing/underdeveloped world.  Fugetabout the Internet - these kids have zero books, zero paper, zero pencils.  Having elementary software to teach literacy, hygeine, major languages of commerce &amp; politics could remove huge roadblocks that  keep large populations walled off from the pathways to a decent life. 
Faux Pseudo - you make a great point.  There are populations of kids who learn by alternative means and are not well served by standard scholastic methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From most of the comments, it is very hard for us to put ourselves in the place of the majority of poor kids in the developing/underdeveloped world.  Fugetabout the Internet &#8211; these kids have zero books, zero paper, zero pencils.  Having elementary software to teach literacy, hygeine, major languages of commerce &amp; politics could remove huge roadblocks that  keep large populations walled off from the pathways to a decent life.<br />
Faux Pseudo &#8211; you make a great point.  There are populations of kids who learn by alternative means and are not well served by standard scholastic methods.</p>
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		<title>By: mulp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mulp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! a great question, Chris:  &quot;Why does Bill Gates not think this is great?&quot; (sic)

Well, he should be remembering his and Steve Jobs&#039;s coversations with Ken Olsen, founder and CEO of DEC, Digital Equipment Corporation, who is widely alleged to have not seen any use for personal computers.

For the formal discussion of this point, you should refer to (google) Clayton Christensen&#039;s, The Innovator&#039;s Dilemma.  As he has written &quot;Discovering markets for emerging technologies inherently involves failure, and most individual decision makers find it very difficult to risk backing a project that might fail because the market is not there.&quot;

Your question is exactly the question asked of the CEO&#039;s of the mainframe market as the minicomputers were being introduced, then  of the CEOs of the minicomputer market as the PC was being introduced, and curiously not of the CEOs of the PC market as the early PDAs were introduced, before Palm Pilots, and even after Palm Pilots were introduced.

To Bill Gates, these computers are inferior technology, so massively inferior in his view that there is nothing that can be done with them that can&#039;t be done ten times better with a computer that costs twice as much.  But by dropping the price by 50% and then rethinking everything, discarding every assumption and building from scratch, you create an entirely new market, one that seems to be vastly inferior to the existing market, with a very long road ahead to maturity, and technology will, in a few years, produce a product that is the same as the low end PCs, so why waste all that time and effort.

I suggest that this might be a show topic, not on computers, but on disruptive technologies, and a disruptive technology is one that disrupts the normal product evolution and drops down to a very inferior product and grows from there.  It has been a while since this discussion receieved much coverage.  And I would be very interested in hearing of new and possible disruptive technology initiatives.  Of course the cell phone is one of them, but it is now old hat and rapidly moving up the capability scale, exceeding the capabilities of PCs of a few years ago.

OliverCranglesParrot: you started out pretty well with the reason Bill Gates doesn&#039;t do it, but you miss the fact that he is a billionare because he didn&#039;t listen to people like you in the 80s, and he is missing the boat today because he is.  

SamVieira: if the technology is &quot;brilliant&quot; then it will fail.  The technology needs to be clearly very inferior, with a strategy of doing things the hard way, duplicating effort, reinventing the wheel, and creating a product that offers too little in the way of capability to satisfy the savey consumer.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! a great question, Chris:  &#8220;Why does Bill Gates not think this is great?&#8221; (sic)</p>
<p>Well, he should be remembering his and Steve Jobs&#8217;s coversations with Ken Olsen, founder and CEO of DEC, Digital Equipment Corporation, who is widely alleged to have not seen any use for personal computers.</p>
<p>For the formal discussion of this point, you should refer to (google) Clayton Christensen&#8217;s, The Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma.  As he has written &#8220;Discovering markets for emerging technologies inherently involves failure, and most individual decision makers find it very difficult to risk backing a project that might fail because the market is not there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your question is exactly the question asked of the CEO&#8217;s of the mainframe market as the minicomputers were being introduced, then  of the CEOs of the minicomputer market as the PC was being introduced, and curiously not of the CEOs of the PC market as the early PDAs were introduced, before Palm Pilots, and even after Palm Pilots were introduced.</p>
<p>To Bill Gates, these computers are inferior technology, so massively inferior in his view that there is nothing that can be done with them that can&#8217;t be done ten times better with a computer that costs twice as much.  But by dropping the price by 50% and then rethinking everything, discarding every assumption and building from scratch, you create an entirely new market, one that seems to be vastly inferior to the existing market, with a very long road ahead to maturity, and technology will, in a few years, produce a product that is the same as the low end PCs, so why waste all that time and effort.</p>
<p>I suggest that this might be a show topic, not on computers, but on disruptive technologies, and a disruptive technology is one that disrupts the normal product evolution and drops down to a very inferior product and grows from there.  It has been a while since this discussion receieved much coverage.  And I would be very interested in hearing of new and possible disruptive technology initiatives.  Of course the cell phone is one of them, but it is now old hat and rapidly moving up the capability scale, exceeding the capabilities of PCs of a few years ago.</p>
<p>OliverCranglesParrot: you started out pretty well with the reason Bill Gates doesn&#8217;t do it, but you miss the fact that he is a billionare because he didn&#8217;t listen to people like you in the 80s, and he is missing the boat today because he is.  </p>
<p>SamVieira: if the technology is &#8220;brilliant&#8221; then it will fail.  The technology needs to be clearly very inferior, with a strategy of doing things the hard way, duplicating effort, reinventing the wheel, and creating a product that offers too little in the way of capability to satisfy the savey consumer.  <img src='http://www.radioopensource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JoyceB</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-44830</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can break down walls that geography and economics put on the development of most of the world&#039;s children we hae the possibility of opening up the door to amazing future pontential. 

The ability to create, express themselves and connect with each other is a powerful thing and you see that in MySpace and virtual spaces like Second Life. A great example of how education can go on in these new spaces can be seen on the teen space of Second Life and how organizations like Global Kids are using it to facilitate learning. (http://www.holymeatballs.org)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can break down walls that geography and economics put on the development of most of the world&#8217;s children we hae the possibility of opening up the door to amazing future pontential. </p>
<p>The ability to create, express themselves and connect with each other is a powerful thing and you see that in MySpace and virtual spaces like Second Life. A great example of how education can go on in these new spaces can be seen on the teen space of Second Life and how organizations like Global Kids are using it to facilitate learning. (<a href="http://www.holymeatballs.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.holymeatballs.org</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: bmchenry</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmchenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The laptop has great design features but it seems like the top down approach to distribution is a weak link.  Why couldnâ€™t this product have been brought out to retail outlets starting at, say, $400?  Wouldn&#039;t this be a better way to work out the software while costs run down the production curve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The laptop has great design features but it seems like the top down approach to distribution is a weak link.  Why couldnâ€™t this product have been brought out to retail outlets starting at, say, $400?  Wouldn&#8217;t this be a better way to work out the software while costs run down the production curve?</p>
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		<title>By: polsmeth</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-44828</link>
		<dc:creator>polsmeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about letting people buy one at double cost and have the second one donated for education use?

I think a lot of people would be happy with a $200 computer for their basic needs, and this way it would help finance the education use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about letting people buy one at double cost and have the second one donated for education use?</p>
<p>I think a lot of people would be happy with a $200 computer for their basic needs, and this way it would help finance the education use.</p>
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		<title>By: OliverCranglesParrot</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-44827</link>
		<dc:creator>OliverCranglesParrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not Microsoft, Chris asks? A proprietary system from a corporate entity tends to be tied to market forces, which dictate and necessitate competitive advantages for proponents of their proprietary offerings (e.g. concepts &amp; requirements (anthropological in nature), designs, implementations, distribution channels, etc). One important task, among several, for proponents of proprietary systems is to correctly calibrate how offerings will be a achieve a state of commodity over some term of business/tech cycle.  Open source tends to be platform oriented that is tied to less proprietary market forces, but not vacuously (e.g. different Linux distributions/vendors, value-add vendors, network infrastructures, etc.).

Both approaches are still currently viable, regardless of quasi-religious fervor which surrounds much discussion and corporate/organizational bloodbaths. Different solutions applied to different types of problems. Understanding the nature of the problem should lead to the appropriate solution (hardly ever happens). These matters tend to be decided for a variety of non-technical reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not Microsoft, Chris asks? A proprietary system from a corporate entity tends to be tied to market forces, which dictate and necessitate competitive advantages for proponents of their proprietary offerings (e.g. concepts &amp; requirements (anthropological in nature), designs, implementations, distribution channels, etc). One important task, among several, for proponents of proprietary systems is to correctly calibrate how offerings will be a achieve a state of commodity over some term of business/tech cycle.  Open source tends to be platform oriented that is tied to less proprietary market forces, but not vacuously (e.g. different Linux distributions/vendors, value-add vendors, network infrastructures, etc.).</p>
<p>Both approaches are still currently viable, regardless of quasi-religious fervor which surrounds much discussion and corporate/organizational bloodbaths. Different solutions applied to different types of problems. Understanding the nature of the problem should lead to the appropriate solution (hardly ever happens). These matters tend to be decided for a variety of non-technical reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: SamVieira</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-44825</link>
		<dc:creator>SamVieira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a brilliant project.  Brilliant technology.  And if they pull it off, an even more brilliant business strategy:

(1) Get the open source community on your side to evangelize on your behalf and provide free labor (while still maintaining good ties with Microsoft ...)
(2) Sign up third world governments (not always known as the most discriminating consumers) to buy these things in bulk (all the better if they can use aid money!) 
(3) Insist on minimum orders of one million (to get your economies of scale)
(4) Use the press, and governments, and open source fanboys, to do your marketing for you 
(5) Politely protest that this isn&#039;t really a $100 laptop (wink wink nudge nudge), knowing that this magic number has a life of its own 
(5) Use open source software, but insist on proprietary hardware, so when the economies of scale kick in and all the kinks are worked out, you can sell components (like the excellent display technology) to Dell, HP, Acer, etc. for big bucks! 

Nothing wrong with making money in support of a worthy cause (especially in these days of corporate social responsibility) -- an HBS case study in the making!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a brilliant project.  Brilliant technology.  And if they pull it off, an even more brilliant business strategy:</p>
<p>(1) Get the open source community on your side to evangelize on your behalf and provide free labor (while still maintaining good ties with Microsoft &#8230;)<br />
(2) Sign up third world governments (not always known as the most discriminating consumers) to buy these things in bulk (all the better if they can use aid money!)<br />
(3) Insist on minimum orders of one million (to get your economies of scale)<br />
(4) Use the press, and governments, and open source fanboys, to do your marketing for you<br />
(5) Politely protest that this isn&#8217;t really a $100 laptop (wink wink nudge nudge), knowing that this magic number has a life of its own<br />
(5) Use open source software, but insist on proprietary hardware, so when the economies of scale kick in and all the kinks are worked out, you can sell components (like the excellent display technology) to Dell, HP, Acer, etc. for big bucks! </p>
<p>Nothing wrong with making money in support of a worthy cause (especially in these days of corporate social responsibility) &#8212; an HBS case study in the making!</p>
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		<title>By: darwhin</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-44821</link>
		<dc:creator>darwhin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plus look at us schools, still behind in the world and we have the internets. all for nothing:P

did all those genius indian engineers india cranked out and fly over here have internet at home growing up?  course not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plus look at us schools, still behind in the world and we have the internets. all for nothing:P</p>
<p>did all those genius indian engineers india cranked out and fly over here have internet at home growing up?  course not.</p>
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		<title>By: darwhin</title>
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		<dc:creator>darwhin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the 9/11 squad were college educated.  education and access is no magic bullet.  these laptops are a misuse of resources for those with a fetish for technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the 9/11 squad were college educated.  education and access is no magic bullet.  these laptops are a misuse of resources for those with a fetish for technology.</p>
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		<title>By: VeritasRox</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/one-laptop-per-child/comment-page-1/#comment-44809</link>
		<dc:creator>VeritasRox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvard recently started a program where the university selected a small group of public high school students from around Boston and showered them with resources and enrichment programs.  They also gave each student a laptop--a state of the art macbook, to be precise.  Although this was very generous and many kids said that this was their favorite part of the program, there were some problems.  In addition to giving the kids anxiety that their macbook would be stolen or left on the bus or T, the students were unfamiliar and uncomfortable with the operating system; they were more interested in games, music, AIM and other social internet functions than in informational websites or learning tools; and once they went home, all access to the internet ended, as the fancy laptops were configured for ethernet and wifi and many of their families had no access or issues with dial up.  
The point of this anecdote is to again reiterate that there is a huge social and technological infrastructure that supports computer and internet usage, and that allocating resources for learning is more complicated than raining laptops on poor students.  Setting an internet/IT access benchmark might be a wiser goal, one that communities could then reach in diverse ways that made sense to them.  This could include having specialized internet centers which could also feature support teams, increasing funding for libraries and other multi-media learning centers, and trying to reduce the overall cost of high-tech computer equipment so that extended families could reasonably invest in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvard recently started a program where the university selected a small group of public high school students from around Boston and showered them with resources and enrichment programs.  They also gave each student a laptop&#8211;a state of the art macbook, to be precise.  Although this was very generous and many kids said that this was their favorite part of the program, there were some problems.  In addition to giving the kids anxiety that their macbook would be stolen or left on the bus or T, the students were unfamiliar and uncomfortable with the operating system; they were more interested in games, music, AIM and other social internet functions than in informational websites or learning tools; and once they went home, all access to the internet ended, as the fancy laptops were configured for ethernet and wifi and many of their families had no access or issues with dial up.<br />
The point of this anecdote is to again reiterate that there is a huge social and technological infrastructure that supports computer and internet usage, and that allocating resources for learning is more complicated than raining laptops on poor students.  Setting an internet/IT access benchmark might be a wiser goal, one that communities could then reach in diverse ways that made sense to them.  This could include having specialized internet centers which could also feature support teams, increasing funding for libraries and other multi-media learning centers, and trying to reduce the overall cost of high-tech computer equipment so that extended families could reasonably invest in them.</p>
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