Comments on: Paris Burning http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:52:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Potter http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66543 Potter Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:45:41 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66543 What I remember about the headscarf controversy is that there were demonstrations by the French Muslim community when two French reporters were taken hostage in Iraq. They were against outside (Muslim) interference in this (French) matter. This link from this earlier this month recalls all that and you can make a connection from this to the riots that were imminent: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4395934.stm Jeremy Rifkin was excellent. Thanks for a good show and for all the links. What I remember about the headscarf controversy is that there were demonstrations by the French Muslim community when two French reporters were taken hostage in Iraq.

They were against outside (Muslim) interference in this (French) matter.

This link from this earlier this month recalls all that and you can make a connection from this to the riots that were imminent:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4395934.stm

Jeremy Rifkin was excellent. Thanks for a good show and for all the links.

]]> By: Grumpy http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66542 Grumpy Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:07:27 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66542 > "Where does the contreversy over the ban on female headscarves in French schools fit?" Good question. It's strange _nobody_ mentions it. About these times there was a program on PBS about difficulties of French "integration", I remember some school consellor talking to some girl in a muslim headscarf about her future education, the girl wanted to be a women's doctor (the one who treats women) as she don't want to see men undress, etc., and the consellor (a woman herself) with a prudish expression on her face was kind of mentoring poor girl that that's not good, it's sexist, the girl should become a man's doctor too, as if there's no such thing as women's doctor. And the whole situation was presented as an example of the difficulties the French have, you know, with these barbarians. > “Where does the contreversy over the ban on female headscarves in French schools fit?”

Good question. It’s strange _nobody_ mentions it.

About these times there was a program on PBS about difficulties of French “integration”, I remember some school consellor talking to some girl in a muslim headscarf about her future education, the girl wanted to be a women’s doctor (the one who treats women) as she don’t want to see men undress, etc., and the consellor (a woman herself) with a prudish expression on her face was kind of mentoring poor girl that that’s not good, it’s sexist, the girl should become a man’s doctor too, as if there’s no such thing as women’s doctor. And the whole situation was presented as an example of the difficulties the French have, you know, with these barbarians.

]]> By: Grumpy http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66541 Grumpy Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:42:06 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66541 Wow, I didn't really want that much attention. Thanks, guys, and the program itself was good, somewhat contrary to my expectations. Brendan, I didn't mean to offend you, I'd had a bad day at work and was kind of jumpy, sorry. Thanks again. Wow, I didn’t really want that much attention. Thanks, guys, and the program itself was good, somewhat contrary to my expectations. Brendan, I didn’t mean to offend you, I’d had a bad day at work and was kind of jumpy, sorry.

Thanks again.

]]> By: Franz Hartl http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66540 Franz Hartl Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:49:46 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66540 working link, http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-02-03-head-scarves_x.htm working link, http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-02-03-head-scarves_x.htm

]]> By: Franz Hartl http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66539 Franz Hartl Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:48:26 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66539 Where does <a href="�http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-02-03-head-scarves_x.htm�" rel="nofollow"> the contreversy over the ban on female headscarves in French schools </a> fit? This is not Jihad, but we might have kulturkampf in France. Where does the contreversy over the ban on female headscarves in French schools fit?

This is not Jihad, but we might have kulturkampf in France.

]]> By: Brendan http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66538 Brendan Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:00:48 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66538 Hey Grumpy, response from Guillet posted above. Thanks for the catch. Hey Grumpy, response from Guillet posted above. Thanks for the catch.

]]> By: desertrose http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66537 desertrose Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:47:37 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66537 The problem of unemployment in the immigrant communities is not only in Paris, but also in many other European cities. The educated immigrants find it difficult to get jobs, although many were born & raised in these countries. Here in Denmark, a last name that is not Olsen or Rasmussen is not going to get your CV noticed. Hence the frustration visible in these communities. Many decide to take their university degrees with them, and flock to the US or the U.K. where there are opportunities available, and feel that they can make to make a difference in their lives & in the society in which they live. http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.sasp?PageID=405083 – an article by the Danish newspaper Politiken about the flight of educated foreigners to other countries. (in Danish language). The problem of unemployment in the immigrant communities is not only in Paris, but also in many other European cities. The educated immigrants find it difficult to get jobs, although many were born & raised in these countries. Here in Denmark, a last name that is not Olsen or Rasmussen is not going to get your CV noticed. Hence the frustration visible in these communities. Many decide to take their university degrees with them, and flock to the US or the U.K. where there are opportunities available, and feel that they can make to make a difference in their lives & in the society in which they live.

http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.sasp?PageID=405083 – an article by the Danish newspaper Politiken about the flight of educated foreigners to other countries. (in Danish language).

]]> By: Brendan http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66536 Brendan Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:58:07 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66536 Oh, Grumpy, also: I just sent Jerome an email, asking if he has any confirmation his arrest statistics. I'll post the link when he responds. Oh, Grumpy, also: I just sent Jerome an email, asking if he has any confirmation his arrest statistics. I’ll post the link when he responds.

]]> By: Brendan http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66535 Brendan Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:52:33 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66535 Hey Grumpy, <a href="http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-2598" rel="nofollow">no need to appeal to fairness</a>. I'm happy to post any links that come my way. And not just because Executive Producer Mary McGrath is a Christian Science Monitor alum, either. Hey Grumpy, no need to appeal to fairness. I’m happy to post any links that come my way. And not just because Executive Producer Mary McGrath is a Christian Science Monitor alum, either.

]]> By: Grumpy http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66534 Grumpy Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:28:08 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/paris-burning/#comment-66534 Did I heard it right when Jerome Guillet said that all arrested were French (born in France) and almost a half of them not even ethnic minorities? I would like a link or something... Did I heard it right when Jerome Guillet said that all arrested were French (born in France) and almost a half of them not even ethnic minorities? I would like a link or something…

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