Comments on: Race and Class in America http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:09:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Justa_Thawght http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-340707 Justa_Thawght Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:34:56 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-340707 LeeJudt I understand exactly what it is you're trying to say. But if you feel you really don't have any advantage in this country as a white person, then you should be more than willing to hypothetically change your race to a dark skinned black if it was possible, since it wouldn't make any difference, right?. So if it was truly possible, would you change your race to black? Why or why not I would like to ask?? Same question for any white person on this blog! LeeJudt I understand exactly what it is you’re trying to say.
But if you feel you really don’t have any advantage in this country as a white person, then you should be more than willing to hypothetically change your race to a dark skinned black if it was possible, since it wouldn’t make any difference, right?.
So if it was truly possible, would you change your race to black? Why or why not I would like to ask??
Same question for any white person on this blog!

]]> By: curious http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66117 curious Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:37:49 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66117 I have followed Dalton Conley for some time and respect his work but he did make an error in his discourse. Chris Rock is wealthy, but he is not necessarily a member of the upper class, so you can not necessarily say that race is a factor in white's willingness to switch places with him. Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice are probably poorer than Chris Rock, but are members of a higher social class. See http://www.socialclass.org to download a model to define the class of individuals from a more methodical perspective. I have followed Dalton Conley for some time and respect his work but he did make an error in his discourse. Chris Rock is wealthy, but he is not necessarily a member of the upper class, so you can not necessarily say that race is a factor in white’s willingness to switch places with him. Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice are probably poorer than Chris Rock, but are members of a higher social class. See http://www.socialclass.org to download a model to define the class of individuals from a more methodical perspective.

]]> By: Afromusing » Odds and Ends http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66116 Afromusing » Odds and Ends Fri, 04 Nov 2005 02:09:40 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66116 [...] rhaps it does mean that in a different language (a nigerian language perhaps?) Just check this out. Permalink 3 Comments » [...] [...] rhaps it does mean that in a different language (a nigerian language perhaps?) Just check this out. Permalink 3 Comments » [...]

]]> By: sk http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66115 sk Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:24:49 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66115 Wonderful series. Keep going. Search for that "new paradigm". Wonderful series. Keep going. Search for that “new paradigm”.

]]> By: Potter http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66114 Potter Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:12:52 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66114 LeeJudt: No it's not about me. Your quote of me was about you but it works in a larger context. Why do you make it about you? Why do you have to put me or anyone down, say something nasty to me or about me or anyone else before you say anything else you want us to consider? Is that really necessary? Does anyone want to hear what you have to say when you start off that way? I don't. I am not interested in your points after you do that number. Actually you should be suspended from posting here, in my opinion, for bad behavior. LeeJudt: No it’s not about me. Your quote of me was about you but it works in a larger context. Why do you make it about you? Why do you have to put me or anyone down, say something nasty to me or about me or anyone else before you say anything else you want us to consider?

Is that really necessary? Does anyone want to hear what you have to say when you start off that way?

I don’t. I am not interested in your points after you do that number.

Actually you should be suspended from posting here, in my opinion, for bad behavior.

]]> By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66113 LeeJudt Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:39:49 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66113 Potter twattle: "An observation about class: Some people (due to emotional deficiencies?) have to put others down before they elevate themselves." Nonesense, a show about poverty has an obligation to speak about the subject in an objective manner and not to assume that everyone will agree or should agree with the shows subjective and indeed emotional content. It does the poor no good if they are objectified as helpless creatures who need pity and love instead of a real help. "We all have deficiencies, yet we all do not do that number." This isn't about you, Potter, dear. Potter twattle:

“An observation about class: Some people (due to emotional deficiencies?) have to put others down before they elevate themselves.”

Nonesense, a show about poverty has an obligation to speak about the subject in an objective manner and not to assume that everyone will agree or should agree with the shows subjective and indeed emotional content.

It does the poor no good if they are objectified as helpless creatures who need pity and love instead of a real help.

“We all have deficiencies, yet we all do not do that number.”

This isn’t about you, Potter, dear.

]]> By: Potter http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66112 Potter Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:44:18 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66112 An observation about class: Some people (due to emotional deficiencies?) have to put others down before they elevate themselves. We all have deficiencies, yet we all do not do that number. The second meaning of class, in the sense of "having class" applies. This is about having dignity and respecting the dignity of others. An observation about class: Some people (due to emotional deficiencies?) have to put others down before they elevate themselves.

We all have deficiencies, yet we all do not do that number.

The second meaning of class, in the sense of “having class” applies. This is about having dignity and respecting the dignity of others.

]]> By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66111 LeeJudt Wed, 12 Oct 2005 03:31:19 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66111 "On why so many do not escape the constraint’s of class: I notice no diversity in the class of the guests … all educated, successful, and confident, even arrogant." That's often the case do good liberals often feel more comfortable talking about poor people than letting the poor speak for themselves. I found the whole concept of poverty as expressed on the program unreal. “On why so many do not escape the constraint’s of class: I notice no diversity in the class of the guests … all educated, successful, and confident, even arrogant.”

That’s often the case do good liberals often feel more comfortable talking about poor people than letting the poor speak for themselves.

I found the whole concept of poverty as expressed on the program unreal.

]]> By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66110 LeeJudt Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:12:15 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66110 "I am embarrassed to listen to the same radio show as you. actually I am embarrassed to live on same planet as you" You are full of embarrasments aren't you, Benjamin Walker? Actually, your emotional deficiencies don't interest me. If there is a country that you think deals with the issues of "race and class" better than we do, I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise feel free to move to Iceland a so called egalitarian society. “I am embarrassed to listen to the same radio show as you.

actually I am embarrassed to live on same planet as you”

You are full of embarrasments aren’t you, Benjamin Walker?

Actually, your emotional deficiencies don’t interest me.

If there is a country that you think deals with the issues of “race and class” better than we do, I’d like to know what it is.

Otherwise feel free to move to Iceland a so called egalitarian society.

]]> By: Raymond http://www.radioopensource.org/race-and-class-in-america/#comment-66109 Raymond Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:14:21 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=277#comment-66109 Finally getting caught up on the Monday series ... On why so many do not escape the constraint's of class: I notice no diversity in the class of the guests ... all educated, successful, and confident, even arrogant. Does ROS think those who have not overcome the constraints of class, say the younger Cubitt or Conley, or the Dickerson before Harvard, have nothing to contribute to the conversation? Perhpas so and perhpas understandably. But then ... Finally getting caught up on the Monday series …

On why so many do not escape the constraint’s of class: I notice no diversity in the class of the guests … all educated, successful, and confident, even arrogant.

Does ROS think those who have not overcome the constraints of class, say the younger Cubitt or Conley, or the Dickerson before Harvard, have nothing to contribute to the conversation? Perhpas so and perhpas understandably. But then …

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