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	<title>Comments on: Randall Kennedy: A Change is Gonna Come</title>
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		<title>By: Loreta Critzer</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/randall-kennedy-a-change-is-gonna-come/#comment-92396</link>
		<dc:creator>Loreta Critzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sei una persona molto intelligente! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sei una persona molto intelligente! <img src='http://www.radioopensource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rc21</title>
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		<dc:creator>rc21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Obama is also quite adept at lifting speeches from other pols.

  I have to give the guy credit, he seems to be able to fool the masses with ease.



I wonder if the MSM will finally challenge him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Obama is also quite adept at lifting speeches from other pols.</p>
<p>  I have to give the guy credit, he seems to be able to fool the masses with ease.</p>
<p>I wonder if the MSM will finally challenge him?</p>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama &#187; in the &#34;Randall Kennedy: A Change is Gonna Come&#34; thread, Barack&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barack Obama &#187; in the &#34;Randall Kennedy: A Change is Gonna Come&#34; thread, Barack&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama &#187; in the &#34;Randall Kennedy: A Change is Gonna Come&#34; thread, rahbuhbuh&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barack Obama &#187; in the &#34;Randall Kennedy: A Change is Gonna Come&#34; thread, rahbuhbuh&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rahbuhbuh</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/randall-kennedy-a-change-is-gonna-come/#comment-92386</link>
		<dc:creator>rahbuhbuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting bit on presidential future and race from james kunstler:



&quot;But the world is heading into a stressful situation [vanishing fossil fuels, us recession, global warming] that could provoke another wave of worldwide conflict... So, from my point of view, the further America removes itself explicitly from a collective racialist mentality, the better off we would be. But there is a catch: if perhaps Mr. Obama wins the Democratic Party&#039;s nomination, and goes on to win the White House, and the nation enters the socioeconomic convulsions, and Mr. Obama is overwhelmed by its overwhelming problems... would he be singled out for blame? Surely there will be a lot of finger-pointing and scapegoating. Would Barack Obama become a tragic figure? The answer may be that anyone who occupies that office during the next term could end up a tragic figure.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting bit on presidential future and race from james kunstler:</p>
<p>&#8220;But the world is heading into a stressful situation [vanishing fossil fuels, us recession, global warming] that could provoke another wave of worldwide conflict&#8230; So, from my point of view, the further America removes itself explicitly from a collective racialist mentality, the better off we would be. But there is a catch: if perhaps Mr. Obama wins the Democratic Party&#8217;s nomination, and goes on to win the White House, and the nation enters the socioeconomic convulsions, and Mr. Obama is overwhelmed by its overwhelming problems&#8230; would he be singled out for blame? Surely there will be a lot of finger-pointing and scapegoating. Would Barack Obama become a tragic figure? The answer may be that anyone who occupies that office during the next term could end up a tragic figure.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/randall-kennedy-a-change-is-gonna-come/#comment-92384</link>
		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes we can, drapetomaniac, yes we can



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fZHou18Cdk&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes we can, drapetomaniac, yes we can</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fZHou18Cdk&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fZHou18Cdk&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Drapetomaniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drapetomaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting flow, very interesting.  So if I&#039;m wrong, and it&#039;s actually individuals that are racist what about concepts like institutionalized racism?  Is this a real thing to you?  There is a large body of work (Charles Mills&#039; book &quot;The Racial Conract&quot; is a good place to start) that supports the theory that racism need not be animated by individual people.  Indeed this is the problem with a reductive view of racism. It&#039;s not just people calling somebody &quot;nigger&quot;, but the education system that put your grandparents out after the 8th grade which impacts the lives of people living today.  As for ignoring the complexity of the issue I&#039;m not sure what you mean.  What I do know is that there is often a break down in conversations about race because people come from different points of view that are often animated by what they think they know as opposed to what they actually know.  As for change, I don&#039;t think a president can do all that much really.  I mean, we&#039;re pleased that Obama can talk because many bright people avoid politics.  And I just don&#039;t believe the hype.  I&#039;d love to be wrong, anybody in my position would be.



And, this is a racist country, founded on it, built by it and sustained in many ways by it.  This don&#039;t mean that everyone here hates dark people.  You can&#039;t found a nation on genocide and slavery and not have that show up few places you know. Our education system doesn&#039;t help.  Many people leave college with the notion that if you like Michael Jordan, you can&#039;t be racist.  It&#039;s ridiculous know?    Talking in generalities helps one sketch the broad outlines.  And sure there is  a group called white people, they&#039;re the ones  who get the cabs I can&#039;t.  But let&#039;s be real here. If Obama becomes the president Frederick Douglass would have been if this were a just nation back then, I&#039;ll happily vote for him during his 2nd term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting flow, very interesting.  So if I&#8217;m wrong, and it&#8217;s actually individuals that are racist what about concepts like institutionalized racism?  Is this a real thing to you?  There is a large body of work (Charles Mills&#8217; book &#8220;The Racial Conract&#8221; is a good place to start) that supports the theory that racism need not be animated by individual people.  Indeed this is the problem with a reductive view of racism. It&#8217;s not just people calling somebody &#8220;nigger&#8221;, but the education system that put your grandparents out after the 8th grade which impacts the lives of people living today.  As for ignoring the complexity of the issue I&#8217;m not sure what you mean.  What I do know is that there is often a break down in conversations about race because people come from different points of view that are often animated by what they think they know as opposed to what they actually know.  As for change, I don&#8217;t think a president can do all that much really.  I mean, we&#8217;re pleased that Obama can talk because many bright people avoid politics.  And I just don&#8217;t believe the hype.  I&#8217;d love to be wrong, anybody in my position would be.</p>
<p>And, this is a racist country, founded on it, built by it and sustained in many ways by it.  This don&#8217;t mean that everyone here hates dark people.  You can&#8217;t found a nation on genocide and slavery and not have that show up few places you know. Our education system doesn&#8217;t help.  Many people leave college with the notion that if you like Michael Jordan, you can&#8217;t be racist.  It&#8217;s ridiculous know?    Talking in generalities helps one sketch the broad outlines.  And sure there is  a group called white people, they&#8217;re the ones  who get the cabs I can&#8217;t.  But let&#8217;s be real here. If Obama becomes the president Frederick Douglass would have been if this were a just nation back then, I&#8217;ll happily vote for him during his 2nd term.</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cast my vote for Obama today and it had nothing to do with the color of his skin. It has to do with appreciating his policy agenda and the way he gets things done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cast my vote for Obama today and it had nothing to do with the color of his skin. It has to do with appreciating his policy agenda and the way he gets things done.</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
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		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iâ€™m back from the polling booth, having cast my vote for obama.



please accept my apology, Drapetomaniac, i thought i detected a bit of sarcasm in your post and responded in kind.



i have no issue with the substance or â€œactual claimsâ€ of your post.  however, the language you elect to employ in articulating your position undermines your argument because it ignores the complexity of the issue.  To make statements or assertions that begin â€œwhite peopleâ€¦â€ or â€œblack peopleâ€¦â€ is to refer to an abstraction, a product of imagination, there is simply no &lt;i&gt;homogeneous&lt;/i&gt; group that can be accurately, definitively characterized as such.  To make the statement that this is a racist country, is yet another oversimplification.  Racism exists, but it is the product of cultural conditioning, of inheritance, it is psychological, a function of paradigm, and can be transcended, uprooted.  It exists in the â€œhearts and mindsâ€ of individuals.  Racism may manifest institutionally, but only as a function of the influence of individuals upon the system that produced the institution.



You assert that you â€œwant the revolutionâ€ as much as anybody, and that â€œhistory is with me on thisâ€.  I suggest you give some consideration to the nature of change as viewed through the lens of chaos theory.  change is characterized by radical, fundamental shifts in complex systems.  the approach to such â€œtipping pointsâ€ is characterized by gradual progress followed by radical departure.  iâ€™m suspect of the value of â€œhistoryâ€ in evaluating where we are currently with respect to the prospects, the potential for radical transformation.



i respect your position and your perspective, and i appreciate the justifications you have present in support of your view point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iâ€™m back from the polling booth, having cast my vote for obama.</p>
<p>please accept my apology, Drapetomaniac, i thought i detected a bit of sarcasm in your post and responded in kind.</p>
<p>i have no issue with the substance or â€œactual claimsâ€ of your post.  however, the language you elect to employ in articulating your position undermines your argument because it ignores the complexity of the issue.  To make statements or assertions that begin â€œwhite peopleâ€¦â€ or â€œblack peopleâ€¦â€ is to refer to an abstraction, a product of imagination, there is simply no <i>homogeneous</i> group that can be accurately, definitively characterized as such.  To make the statement that this is a racist country, is yet another oversimplification.  Racism exists, but it is the product of cultural conditioning, of inheritance, it is psychological, a function of paradigm, and can be transcended, uprooted.  It exists in the â€œhearts and mindsâ€ of individuals.  Racism may manifest institutionally, but only as a function of the influence of individuals upon the system that produced the institution.</p>
<p>You assert that you â€œwant the revolutionâ€ as much as anybody, and that â€œhistory is with me on thisâ€.  I suggest you give some consideration to the nature of change as viewed through the lens of chaos theory.  change is characterized by radical, fundamental shifts in complex systems.  the approach to such â€œtipping pointsâ€ is characterized by gradual progress followed by radical departure.  iâ€™m suspect of the value of â€œhistoryâ€ in evaluating where we are currently with respect to the prospects, the potential for radical transformation.</p>
<p>i respect your position and your perspective, and i appreciate the justifications you have present in support of your view point.</p>
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		<title>By: Sutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to ditch my white quilt for some time now.  It stains far too easily.  I&#039;m hoping to flee into the protection of a classy blue wool blanket.</description>
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