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		<title>By: Archive &#187; in the &#34;Re-Imaging Violence&#34; thread, Public Records Access - Earn&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88071</link>
		<dc:creator>Archive &#187; in the &#34;Re-Imaging Violence&#34; thread, Public Records Access - Earn&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Public Records Access - Earn&#8230;






       in the &quot;Re-Imaging Violence&quot; thread, Public Records Access - Earn&#8230; [â€¦] FINA [...]</description>
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<p>       in the &quot;Re-Imaging Violence&quot; thread, Public Records Access &#8211; Earn&#8230; [â€¦] FINA [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Public Records Access - Earn 75% Comm. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88070</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Records Access - Earn 75% Comm. &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  FINANCE CONFERENCE AND TRADE SHOW 419 Scams » Blog Archive   »  Chip off of the old block!Open Source  » Blog Archive   » Re-Imaging Violence    	Tags 	seized [...]</description>
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		<title>By: enhabit</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88069</link>
		<dc:creator>enhabit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 21:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>been reading lucretius lately:



Pleasant it is, when over the great sea the winds shake the waters,

To gaze down from shore on the trials of others;

Not because seeing other people struggle is sweet to us,

But because the fact that we ourselves are free from such ills strikes us as pleasant.

Pleasant it is also to behold great armies battling on a plain,

When we ourselves have no part in their peril.

But nothing is sweeter than to occupy a lofty sanctuary of the mind,

Well fortified with the teachings of the wise,

Where we may look down on others as they stumble along,

Vainly searching for the true path of life. . . . (2. 1-10)



weird how someone from b.c. can get our modern detachment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been reading lucretius lately:</p>
<p>Pleasant it is, when over the great sea the winds shake the waters,</p>
<p>To gaze down from shore on the trials of others;</p>
<p>Not because seeing other people struggle is sweet to us,</p>
<p>But because the fact that we ourselves are free from such ills strikes us as pleasant.</p>
<p>Pleasant it is also to behold great armies battling on a plain,</p>
<p>When we ourselves have no part in their peril.</p>
<p>But nothing is sweeter than to occupy a lofty sanctuary of the mind,</p>
<p>Well fortified with the teachings of the wise,</p>
<p>Where we may look down on others as they stumble along,</p>
<p>Vainly searching for the true path of life. . . . (2. 1-10)</p>
<p>weird how someone from b.c. can get our modern detachment.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Pitch a Show: May 4, 2007</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88068</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Pitch a Show: May 4, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ed Le Jazz Hot Toby in the North pitched Englishness barthjg pitched On the Watch List and Re-Imaging Violence Dora pitched Shakespeare and Power  nother pitched Camille Paglia and Son [...]</description>
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		<title>By: enhabit</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88067</link>
		<dc:creator>enhabit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m with



nother&#039;s April 19th, 2007 at 1:37 pm



putting cho&#039;s stuff on the air only encourages the next one..and there will be a next one..



the networks have become tabloids.  where in the world is nbc&#039;s head!</description>
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<p>nother&#8217;s April 19th, 2007 at 1:37 pm</p>
<p>putting cho&#8217;s stuff on the air only encourages the next one..and there will be a next one..</p>
<p>the networks have become tabloids.  where in the world is nbc&#8217;s head!</p>
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		<title>By: herbert browne</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88066</link>
		<dc:creator>herbert browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: ..&quot;The bottom line is that the atomic bombing of Japan worked, and in the end probably save vastly more lives than it cost. This is the exact opposite of the Iraqi situation..&quot;-

Right... and if we had simply taken out the Hussein family this way, we&#039;d be way ahead of the game. I&#039;m reminded of a poem that I found, 3 years ago, in this same vein:



If I should nuke Jerusalem

And vaporize its trees,

And its dust were blown around the globe

Would anybody sneeze?



And, if they did, what would we cry?

&quot;JERUSALEM!&quot; of course-

To let them know that sneezing

Is no cause for remorse.



If I should nuke Jerusalem

I&#039;d warn them, beforehand,

So folks could gather up their things

And scatter through the land.



I&#039;d pray they scattered far enough,

Since I&#039;d use a large device.

(It&#039;d be SO disappointing

to have to nuke it TWICE.)

(anon)

^..^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: ..&#8221;The bottom line is that the atomic bombing of Japan worked, and in the end probably save vastly more lives than it cost. This is the exact opposite of the Iraqi situation..&#8221;-</p>
<p>Right&#8230; and if we had simply taken out the Hussein family this way, we&#8217;d be way ahead of the game. I&#8217;m reminded of a poem that I found, 3 years ago, in this same vein:</p>
<p>If I should nuke Jerusalem</p>
<p>And vaporize its trees,</p>
<p>And its dust were blown around the globe</p>
<p>Would anybody sneeze?</p>
<p>And, if they did, what would we cry?</p>
<p>&#8220;JERUSALEM!&#8221; of course-</p>
<p>To let them know that sneezing</p>
<p>Is no cause for remorse.</p>
<p>If I should nuke Jerusalem</p>
<p>I&#8217;d warn them, beforehand,</p>
<p>So folks could gather up their things</p>
<p>And scatter through the land.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d pray they scattered far enough,</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;d use a large device.</p>
<p>(It&#8217;d be SO disappointing</p>
<p>to have to nuke it TWICE.)</p>
<p>(anon)</p>
<p>^..^</p>
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		<title>By: john_d</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88065</link>
		<dc:creator>john_d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey folks,



I just heard this show last night on podcast -- thanks a lot for it. After any such event, I can only absorb so much media and street rehash before I pretty much dissolve into the formless anxiety we all seem to want to live in. I mean, this was the first real weekend of beautiful spring up here in Toronto, and still all I heard was Virginia, Virginia, Virginia.



Way to find a context that works on the brain, not just the fluttery nerves.



cheers,



--jd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey folks,</p>
<p>I just heard this show last night on podcast &#8212; thanks a lot for it. After any such event, I can only absorb so much media and street rehash before I pretty much dissolve into the formless anxiety we all seem to want to live in. I mean, this was the first real weekend of beautiful spring up here in Toronto, and still all I heard was Virginia, Virginia, Virginia.</p>
<p>Way to find a context that works on the brain, not just the fluttery nerves.</p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>&#8211;jd</p>
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		<title>By: plnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88064</link>
		<dc:creator>plnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;an atomic bomb could have been dropped on Mt. Fuji, and inspired enough awe and appreciation of the power unleashed that a peace agreement could have been negotiated&lt;/i&gt;



That is unlikely and speculative in the extrme.   The bomb used on Hiroshima was tiny by modern standards - around 15 kilotons yield.   It would have made no obvious impact on Mt Fuji except on close inspection.  Furthermore, Japan had a tightly controlled press during the war so any impact of such a bombing would have leaked out only slowly.



The bottom line is that the atomic bombing of Japan worked, and in the end probably save vastly more lives than it cost.   This is the exact opposite of the Iraqi situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>an atomic bomb could have been dropped on Mt. Fuji, and inspired enough awe and appreciation of the power unleashed that a peace agreement could have been negotiated</i></p>
<p>That is unlikely and speculative in the extrme.   The bomb used on Hiroshima was tiny by modern standards &#8211; around 15 kilotons yield.   It would have made no obvious impact on Mt Fuji except on close inspection.  Furthermore, Japan had a tightly controlled press during the war so any impact of such a bombing would have leaked out only slowly.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the atomic bombing of Japan worked, and in the end probably save vastly more lives than it cost.   This is the exact opposite of the Iraqi situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sutter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88063</link>
		<dc:creator>Sutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 00:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, mynocturama.  To be clear, I&#039;m not indignant, and I don&#039;t think Chris&#039;s refusal to engage was petulant.  As I said above, this wasn&#039;t that show.  It was a good show, as you say.  My frustration is about the show&#039;s reluctance to focus an hour on this, to have real give-and-take (Siva was giving but nobody was taking) on the topic.



Sorry if I seemed to come on too strong.  I absolutely agree it came up and was addressed (in part).  As must be clear by now, I just have relatively strong views on the issue. and think we collectively need to air these matters out in more detail.  (For a more measured take, see my post earlier today on the Pitch a Show thread.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, mynocturama.  To be clear, I&#8217;m not indignant, and I don&#8217;t think Chris&#8217;s refusal to engage was petulant.  As I said above, this wasn&#8217;t that show.  It was a good show, as you say.  My frustration is about the show&#8217;s reluctance to focus an hour on this, to have real give-and-take (Siva was giving but nobody was taking) on the topic.</p>
<p>Sorry if I seemed to come on too strong.  I absolutely agree it came up and was addressed (in part).  As must be clear by now, I just have relatively strong views on the issue. and think we collectively need to air these matters out in more detail.  (For a more measured take, see my post earlier today on the Pitch a Show thread.)</p>
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		<title>By: mynocturama</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/re-imaging-violence/#comment-88062</link>
		<dc:creator>mynocturama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit late in listening to this one - sometimes I stream the show live, sometimes not.  These threads tend to die off after airing, but I thought I&#039;d put in an appreciative word anyway.  I think the show went off quite well, and was a welcome way of addressing this story while adding something new, something other than the news cycle take.  I don&#039;t think the theme of &quot;new media&quot; was fixated on to the detriment of a sense of context.  And I have to say I&#039;m puzzled by Sutter&#039;s indignation.  Granted that the show overall wasn&#039;t meant to overtly focus on the mental illness side, even within its framework I think ample voice was given to exactly these concerns.  Siva repeatedly addressed the need for more sensitivity and understanding concerning mental illness, and how image-driven sensationalism gets in the way of such much needed reflection/consideration/deliberation.  And to my ear at least Chris didn&#039;t &quot;petulantly refuse&quot; or ignore Siva&#039;s comments on this issue.  He allowed room for them to be said, and, as far as I&#039;m concerned, incorporated them into the show&#039;s conception.  If you give it another listen, I think you&#039;ll see/hear that the very, very important issue of mental health and dealing with the mentally ill was addressed in relation to the theme and frame of the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit late in listening to this one &#8211; sometimes I stream the show live, sometimes not.  These threads tend to die off after airing, but I thought I&#8217;d put in an appreciative word anyway.  I think the show went off quite well, and was a welcome way of addressing this story while adding something new, something other than the news cycle take.  I don&#8217;t think the theme of &#8220;new media&#8221; was fixated on to the detriment of a sense of context.  And I have to say I&#8217;m puzzled by Sutter&#8217;s indignation.  Granted that the show overall wasn&#8217;t meant to overtly focus on the mental illness side, even within its framework I think ample voice was given to exactly these concerns.  Siva repeatedly addressed the need for more sensitivity and understanding concerning mental illness, and how image-driven sensationalism gets in the way of such much needed reflection/consideration/deliberation.  And to my ear at least Chris didn&#8217;t &#8220;petulantly refuse&#8221; or ignore Siva&#8217;s comments on this issue.  He allowed room for them to be said, and, as far as I&#8217;m concerned, incorporated them into the show&#8217;s conception.  If you give it another listen, I think you&#8217;ll see/hear that the very, very important issue of mental health and dealing with the mentally ill was addressed in relation to the theme and frame of the show.</p>
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