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	<description>Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics</description>
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		<title>By: Jake Shapiro &#187; Philly reflections</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/report-from-public-radio-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Shapiro &#187; Philly reflections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 04:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ohn Sutton has a series of PRPD posts here. Mary McGrath weighs in on the Open Source blog here. Rolas de Aztlan, program director for KPFT has a wrap-up here. - Disturbing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ohn Sutton has a series of PRPD posts here. Mary McGrath weighs in on the Open Source blog here. Rolas de Aztlan, program director for KPFT has a wrap-up here. &#8211; Disturbing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/report-from-public-radio-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19107</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey nother, you make my day. Yes, there are t-shirts. 
Hugh Macleod created it for us:
http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003214.html

email me your size and address and I&#039;ll be happy to send one off to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey nother, you make my day. Yes, there are t-shirts.<br />
Hugh Macleod created it for us:<br />
<a href="http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003214.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003214.html</a></p>
<p>email me your size and address and I&#8217;ll be happy to send one off to you.</p>
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		<title>By: plnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/report-from-public-radio-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19085</link>
		<dc:creator>plnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and if ROS had no website I would still be a loyal listener.&quot;

That is an interesting observation.    I think of WGBH and WBUR as primarily radio stations that happen to have websites.  And I think that has to change if they are to survive.   ROS is exploring some possible directions for that change.

I think there&#039;s a whole generation of people out here, including myself, where the radio part, like newspapers, is basically &quot;old media&quot;.  I hardly EVER listen to WGBH or WBUR on the air -  I rely on archived or podcast shows, which I arrange in sequenc to match my interests.   On my iPod I have playlists of talk or discussion programs organized by subject.   In the same playlist I might have a ROS, an OnPoint, a Here On Earth (Wisconsin Public radio)  and a Deep End (Australia&#039;s ABC radio national), for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and if ROS had no website I would still be a loyal listener.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is an interesting observation.    I think of WGBH and WBUR as primarily radio stations that happen to have websites.  And I think that has to change if they are to survive.   ROS is exploring some possible directions for that change.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a whole generation of people out here, including myself, where the radio part, like newspapers, is basically &#8220;old media&#8221;.  I hardly EVER listen to WGBH or WBUR on the air &#8211;  I rely on archived or podcast shows, which I arrange in sequenc to match my interests.   On my iPod I have playlists of talk or discussion programs organized by subject.   In the same playlist I might have a ROS, an OnPoint, a Here On Earth (Wisconsin Public radio)  and a Deep End (Australia&#8217;s ABC radio national), for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/report-from-public-radio-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19077</link>
		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!  Great news about making the 1st page of Google.  Iâ€™m relieved because I didnâ€™t know how the show was doing in the big picture.  In my world you are at the top of my bookmarks/favorites page.   I loved the old â€œConnectionâ€ even though I never called in and  if ROS had no website I would still be a loyal listener.  To think that I have been able to contribute to the ROS cause in some small way by blogging has been an honor.  It has also enriched my life by making me feel more engaged in the world, and hopefully that enables me to enrich the lives of people around me.  The ROS vibe spreads far from your tree in Cambridge. 

Iâ€™m not a big tech person, so I especially appreciate the basic nature of the web site.  You didnâ€™t build it to bring a new site to a web audience; you built it to bring a new audience to the web.  When I have a conversation on the site, I donâ€™t feel like Iâ€™m talking to web people, just people - and that includes the staff.  As Chris says in the article:

â€œItâ€™s not about the technology,â€ he says. â€œItâ€™s about the implications for democracy and information and communication and human contact and formation of opinion, and I just love it to death. It is a new world.â€

So thank you Mary for your hard work and your imagination.  It might be that you and Chris are the Lewis and Clark of this medium and the rest of us are jockeying to be on the exploration team.

And did you say something about t-shirts? â˜º</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  Great news about making the 1st page of Google.  Iâ€™m relieved because I didnâ€™t know how the show was doing in the big picture.  In my world you are at the top of my bookmarks/favorites page.   I loved the old â€œConnectionâ€ even though I never called in and  if ROS had no website I would still be a loyal listener.  To think that I have been able to contribute to the ROS cause in some small way by blogging has been an honor.  It has also enriched my life by making me feel more engaged in the world, and hopefully that enables me to enrich the lives of people around me.  The ROS vibe spreads far from your tree in Cambridge. </p>
<p>Iâ€™m not a big tech person, so I especially appreciate the basic nature of the web site.  You didnâ€™t build it to bring a new site to a web audience; you built it to bring a new audience to the web.  When I have a conversation on the site, I donâ€™t feel like Iâ€™m talking to web people, just people &#8211; and that includes the staff.  As Chris says in the article:</p>
<p>â€œItâ€™s not about the technology,â€ he says. â€œItâ€™s about the implications for democracy and information and communication and human contact and formation of opinion, and I just love it to death. It is a new world.â€</p>
<p>So thank you Mary for your hard work and your imagination.  It might be that you and Chris are the Lewis and Clark of this medium and the rest of us are jockeying to be on the exploration team.</p>
<p>And did you say something about t-shirts? â˜º</p>
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		<title>By: plnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/report-from-public-radio-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19057</link>
		<dc:creator>plnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I were an advertiser I would put my money on that PODCAST ad spot.&quot;

No WAY!   I don&#039;t want to listen to ads on my iPod!

I&#039;m a member of both of my local public radio stations (are you?)  so I&#039;ve already paid my dues.  

Anyway, the hail-Mary ad model where a company buys some ad-time or space and just prays it reaches the right person or that someone responds to it is ***SO*** last century!   The problem with putting an ad on an iPod is that they have no way of knowing if it&#039;s reaching the right ears or if someone deleted it or fast-forwarded over it or didn&#039;t listen to it till six months later.  Or it could be an ad for a Lexus and the listener is a kid working at a Starbucks, or an ad for leather furniture and the listener is a PETA activist.  Also they can&#039;t measure whether that particular ad resulted in a sale or contact.

So, NO, the broadcast advertising model went out with corded telephones, Ed Sullivan, and Pet Rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I were an advertiser I would put my money on that PODCAST ad spot.&#8221;</p>
<p>No WAY!   I don&#8217;t want to listen to ads on my iPod!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a member of both of my local public radio stations (are you?)  so I&#8217;ve already paid my dues.  </p>
<p>Anyway, the hail-Mary ad model where a company buys some ad-time or space and just prays it reaches the right person or that someone responds to it is ***SO*** last century!   The problem with putting an ad on an iPod is that they have no way of knowing if it&#8217;s reaching the right ears or if someone deleted it or fast-forwarded over it or didn&#8217;t listen to it till six months later.  Or it could be an ad for a Lexus and the listener is a kid working at a Starbucks, or an ad for leather furniture and the listener is a PETA activist.  Also they can&#8217;t measure whether that particular ad resulted in a sale or contact.</p>
<p>So, NO, the broadcast advertising model went out with corded telephones, Ed Sullivan, and Pet Rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaman</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/report-from-public-radio-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19029</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting issue.

I quit the radio way back in the day. Podcast IS the new Broadcast.

THE ONLY Advertisement I HEAR is whatever advertisement IS ON THE PODCAST!

If I were an advertiser I would put my money on that PODCAST ad spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting issue.</p>
<p>I quit the radio way back in the day. Podcast IS the new Broadcast.</p>
<p>THE ONLY Advertisement I HEAR is whatever advertisement IS ON THE PODCAST!</p>
<p>If I were an advertiser I would put my money on that PODCAST ad spot.</p>
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		<title>By: plnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/report-from-public-radio-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19024</link>
		<dc:creator>plnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Public broadcasters have been slow to wake up to the opportunities afforded by the Web.&quot;

Here&#039;s an example of that:  I&#039;m a contributor to both of Boston&#039;s NPR stations, at amounts above the basic level.   Why do people who&#039;ve already made their contribution have to sit through long, annoying pledge drives?   Especially if they&#039;re near a computer?

Technically it would be relatively easy to set up their streaming audio feeds to carry their regular programming, minus the begathon, by entering a password that we are given when we become a station member.   Membership SHOULD have priveleges that go beyond tote bags and coffee mugs, and one of those priveleges should be freedom from pledge drives.   

I&#039;ve made this suggestion to both WBUR and WGBH and neither one has even given me the courtesy of a response!  

When pledge drives come on I go out on the web and listen to my favorite programs over my PC.  Sometimes I listen to NPR programs on other stations&#039; streams around the US.  Often I listen to Australia&#039;s ABC/Radio National, which has BETTER, more intelligent, programming than NPR:  Check out By Design, Night Air, Poetica, and a dozen others that have no peers on NPR.  See:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/subject.htm

Using podcasts I can listen to these while driving or on the go.   There are also great classical music streams all over the world, at far higher bitrates (ie., better audio quality) than most NPR stations.

Keep in mind that with WiMax and EV-DO and other technologies starting to deploy widely, soon we will no longer be tethered to a PC to listen to streaming audio on the Internet.   That will end the rationale for conventional broadcast radio stations.  Local NPR stations that don&#039;t start adapting NOW will no longer have a raison d&#039;etre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Public broadcasters have been slow to wake up to the opportunities afforded by the Web.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example of that:  I&#8217;m a contributor to both of Boston&#8217;s NPR stations, at amounts above the basic level.   Why do people who&#8217;ve already made their contribution have to sit through long, annoying pledge drives?   Especially if they&#8217;re near a computer?</p>
<p>Technically it would be relatively easy to set up their streaming audio feeds to carry their regular programming, minus the begathon, by entering a password that we are given when we become a station member.   Membership SHOULD have priveleges that go beyond tote bags and coffee mugs, and one of those priveleges should be freedom from pledge drives.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made this suggestion to both WBUR and WGBH and neither one has even given me the courtesy of a response!  </p>
<p>When pledge drives come on I go out on the web and listen to my favorite programs over my PC.  Sometimes I listen to NPR programs on other stations&#8217; streams around the US.  Often I listen to Australia&#8217;s ABC/Radio National, which has BETTER, more intelligent, programming than NPR:  Check out By Design, Night Air, Poetica, and a dozen others that have no peers on NPR.  See:<br />
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/subject.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/rn/subject.htm</a></p>
<p>Using podcasts I can listen to these while driving or on the go.   There are also great classical music streams all over the world, at far higher bitrates (ie., better audio quality) than most NPR stations.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that with WiMax and EV-DO and other technologies starting to deploy widely, soon we will no longer be tethered to a PC to listen to streaming audio on the Internet.   That will end the rationale for conventional broadcast radio stations.  Local NPR stations that don&#8217;t start adapting NOW will no longer have a raison d&#8217;etre.</p>
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