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		<title>By: Kate McShane</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/robin-kelleys-transcendental-thelonious-monk/#comment-93453</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazzman,



You&#039;re such a nice man.



I, too, am sorry I continue to manifest miserable jobs.  No, I&#039;m not still on the waiting list at the BPL.  I assume you&#039;re talking about THE SECRET.  I read all the time about how to do this differently, but I can&#039;t seem to get it.  I&#039;ve read that people with histories like mine have an extremely difficult time making the transition to a belief in a loving world.  We can&#039;t seem to adjust to the idea that the universe wants to give us something good.  I agonize over this every day, trying to understand how it can be different, what I need to do differently.



What continues to be wonderful for me, though, is jazz.  When I get up in the morning and put on an iTunes playlist, I feel happier, safer, more thrilled than I feel all day.  I love the musicians and I feel grateful for their work, inspired by it, and life is amazing, at least for those first hours.



I hope to come back to this site, to have time to listen to the interviews, and to write about them again.  It would be so nice to hear what you think.  I think I should do this, because for the first time in decades, I stopped writing when I took this job.  I&#039;ve really missed some of the people on this site.



It was so sweet to hear from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazzman,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re such a nice man.</p>
<p>I, too, am sorry I continue to manifest miserable jobs.  No, I&#8217;m not still on the waiting list at the BPL.  I assume you&#8217;re talking about THE SECRET.  I read all the time about how to do this differently, but I can&#8217;t seem to get it.  I&#8217;ve read that people with histories like mine have an extremely difficult time making the transition to a belief in a loving world.  We can&#8217;t seem to adjust to the idea that the universe wants to give us something good.  I agonize over this every day, trying to understand how it can be different, what I need to do differently.</p>
<p>What continues to be wonderful for me, though, is jazz.  When I get up in the morning and put on an iTunes playlist, I feel happier, safer, more thrilled than I feel all day.  I love the musicians and I feel grateful for their work, inspired by it, and life is amazing, at least for those first hours.</p>
<p>I hope to come back to this site, to have time to listen to the interviews, and to write about them again.  It would be so nice to hear what you think.  I think I should do this, because for the first time in decades, I stopped writing when I took this job.  I&#8217;ve really missed some of the people on this site.</p>
<p>It was so sweet to hear from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazzman</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/robin-kelleys-transcendental-thelonious-monk/#comment-93452</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Kate:&lt;/b&gt; I’m glad you still visit the ROS site, albeit infrequently. As I said above, I’ve been blocked from the site since last May and am too busy to contribute much lately. I’m sorry you are still manifesting “terrible” jobs (BTW are you still on the BPL waiting list?) and this is not the forum to examine effect and cause but you have my well wishes for what you would consider a more positive situation. I am not the jazzman of the HuffPo, I only use that handle here and hardly ever comment anywhere else. I’ve found that it is unrewarding (for all concerned) to opine philosophically in many blogs and forums without engendering animus and incivility. Dialogue with those of differing opinions is difficult at best and downright hostile at worst. I miss the discussions with you &lt;b&gt;Potter, Allison, and Nick&lt;/b&gt; et al. as they were spirited, enlightening, and mostly civil even in total disagreement. I have often thought of you and wondered how you were progressing.



Peace and All the Best,



Jazzman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Kate:</b> I’m glad you still visit the ROS site, albeit infrequently. As I said above, I’ve been blocked from the site since last May and am too busy to contribute much lately. I’m sorry you are still manifesting “terrible” jobs (BTW are you still on the BPL waiting list?) and this is not the forum to examine effect and cause but you have my well wishes for what you would consider a more positive situation. I am not the jazzman of the HuffPo, I only use that handle here and hardly ever comment anywhere else. I’ve found that it is unrewarding (for all concerned) to opine philosophically in many blogs and forums without engendering animus and incivility. Dialogue with those of differing opinions is difficult at best and downright hostile at worst. I miss the discussions with you <b>Potter, Allison, and Nick</b> et al. as they were spirited, enlightening, and mostly civil even in total disagreement. I have often thought of you and wondered how you were progressing.</p>
<p>Peace and All the Best,</p>
<p>Jazzman</p>
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		<title>By: Kate McShane</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/robin-kelleys-transcendental-thelonious-monk/#comment-93451</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazzman,



I&#039;m not here very often, but I happened to look at this thread tonight and saw your comment.  I felt so happy to hear your voice again.  I once saw a comment of yours on the Huffington Post and I wrote to tell you I was &quot;katermc&quot;, but the HP is so huge that I&#039;m sure it was lost.  I hope you&#039;re well.  I&#039;ve thought of you.

Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazzman,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not here very often, but I happened to look at this thread tonight and saw your comment.  I felt so happy to hear your voice again.  I once saw a comment of yours on the Huffington Post and I wrote to tell you I was &#8220;katermc&#8221;, but the HP is so huge that I&#8217;m sure it was lost.  I hope you&#8217;re well.  I&#8217;ve thought of you.</p>
<p>Kate</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/robin-kelleys-transcendental-thelonious-monk/#comment-93450</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jazzman!!! Good to hear from you! You are in for a treat with this interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jazzman!!! Good to hear from you! You are in for a treat with this interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazzman</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/robin-kelleys-transcendental-thelonious-monk/#comment-93449</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year my company was sold and the purchasing entity decided to block ROS and many other formerly “open” (to me) websites. This is by the way of explanation of my rather sudden disappearance from one of the premier internet blogging sites it has been my pleasure to frequent since last May. Happily the illiberal company sold my division to another company (which promptly laid off a 3rd of the workforce and consequently I’m busier than I have been in many years – but at least I still have a job) but whose IT dept. so far in 2010 has an incredibly liberal policy and ROS (as well as most other sites) is now open to me once again.



I heard Robin Kelley discussing his book on the radio (I’ve been listening to the radio since my car CD player died) which also included interesting commentary from Matthew Shipp another modern pianist whom I enjoy (some say he is &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; heir to Monk) and shortly thereafter I purchased &lt;i&gt;Thelonius Monk TLATOAAO&lt;/i&gt; for $8 after a Border’s 40% off coupon and $10 in “Border’s Bucks.”



I have been too busy to give Robin Kelley’s work proper attention but this interview will spur me to correct that. I hope to be a contributor here once again as time allows.



Peace, Hi &amp; Happy New Year to &lt;b&gt;Chris, Potter, Nother, KateMcShane, &amp; Sidewalker&lt;/b&gt; (my old ROS friends on this page.)



Peace to ALL,



Jazzman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year my company was sold and the purchasing entity decided to block ROS and many other formerly “open” (to me) websites. This is by the way of explanation of my rather sudden disappearance from one of the premier internet blogging sites it has been my pleasure to frequent since last May. Happily the illiberal company sold my division to another company (which promptly laid off a 3rd of the workforce and consequently I’m busier than I have been in many years – but at least I still have a job) but whose IT dept. so far in 2010 has an incredibly liberal policy and ROS (as well as most other sites) is now open to me once again.</p>
<p>I heard Robin Kelley discussing his book on the radio (I’ve been listening to the radio since my car CD player died) which also included interesting commentary from Matthew Shipp another modern pianist whom I enjoy (some say he is <i>the</i> heir to Monk) and shortly thereafter I purchased <i>Thelonius Monk TLATOAAO</i> for $8 after a Border’s 40% off coupon and $10 in “Border’s Bucks.”</p>
<p>I have been too busy to give Robin Kelley’s work proper attention but this interview will spur me to correct that. I hope to be a contributor here once again as time allows.</p>
<p>Peace, Hi &#038; Happy New Year to <b>Chris, Potter, Nother, KateMcShane, &amp; Sidewalker</b> (my old ROS friends on this page.)</p>
<p>Peace to ALL,</p>
<p>Jazzman</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Germuska</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/robin-kelleys-transcendental-thelonious-monk/#comment-93448</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Germuska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love when you do music.  More, please!  I agree with sidewalker, a series like &#039;whose words these are&#039; could be pretty great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love when you do music.  More, please!  I agree with sidewalker, a series like &#8216;whose words these are&#8217; could be pretty great.</p>
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		<title>By: sidewalker</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/robin-kelleys-transcendental-thelonious-monk/#comment-93447</link>
		<dc:creator>sidewalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! What a scrumptious interview. It was as if Chris and Robin had joined in on a session with Monk, and their harmonies didn&#039;t feel out of place at all.



Listening to this interview recalled the enthusiastic one with Alain Pacowski from a couple of years back on Open Source &quot;Le Hot Jazz&quot;, which is also a favorite.



Chris, do we have to wait so long again? How about a sister series to &#039;Whose Words There Are&#039; on Jazz?  &#039;Whose Melodies These Are&#039; seems like the perfect way to enter a new decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! What a scrumptious interview. It was as if Chris and Robin had joined in on a session with Monk, and their harmonies didn&#8217;t feel out of place at all.</p>
<p>Listening to this interview recalled the enthusiastic one with Alain Pacowski from a couple of years back on Open Source &#8220;Le Hot Jazz&#8221;, which is also a favorite.</p>
<p>Chris, do we have to wait so long again? How about a sister series to &#8216;Whose Words There Are&#8217; on Jazz?  &#8216;Whose Melodies These Are&#8217; seems like the perfect way to enter a new decade.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“So a lot of critics didn’t like me back then—still don’t today—because they saw me as an arrogant little nigger.  Maybe I was, I don’t know, but I do know that I wasn’t going to have to write about them.  Anyway, Max and Monk felt like that, and J.J. and Bud Powell, too.  So that’s what brought us close together, this attitude about ourselves and our music.” – Miles



When I think of my favorite Jazz – and especially when I think of Monk – it’s through the prism of race relations.  Emasculating bigotry and the consequential  “double consciousness,” permeated both the playing of, and listening to, this American art.



For Monk, there was even a third consciousness, that of a man possessed.  “he was a great put-on artist, too, and that’s the way he kept people off him, by acting crazy like he did.” - Miles



“Whoso would be a man, must be a nonconformist.”



Monk takes Emerson’s words to heart.  So much so that he refuses to conform to even his African American contemporaries.  One can imagine Monk quoting Shakespeare:



“I am too high-born to be propertied,

To be a secondary at control

Or useful serving-man and instrument”



Miles gushes over Monk in his autobiography, but he also recounts the legendary controversy over his asking Monk to lay out and not play behind him on the album they did together.  Because “Monk never did know how to play behind a horn player.”



What I read into the controversy is that Monk did not want to be secondary to Miles…nor should he be…nor will he be.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBP9tYncw8E



Great interview, and I love the insight about Monk influencing the sounds of the album &quot;Money Jungle.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“So a lot of critics didn’t like me back then—still don’t today—because they saw me as an arrogant little nigger.  Maybe I was, I don’t know, but I do know that I wasn’t going to have to write about them.  Anyway, Max and Monk felt like that, and J.J. and Bud Powell, too.  So that’s what brought us close together, this attitude about ourselves and our music.” – Miles</p>
<p>When I think of my favorite Jazz – and especially when I think of Monk – it’s through the prism of race relations.  Emasculating bigotry and the consequential  “double consciousness,” permeated both the playing of, and listening to, this American art.</p>
<p>For Monk, there was even a third consciousness, that of a man possessed.  “he was a great put-on artist, too, and that’s the way he kept people off him, by acting crazy like he did.” &#8211; Miles</p>
<p>“Whoso would be a man, must be a nonconformist.”</p>
<p>Monk takes Emerson’s words to heart.  So much so that he refuses to conform to even his African American contemporaries.  One can imagine Monk quoting Shakespeare:</p>
<p>“I am too high-born to be propertied,</p>
<p>To be a secondary at control</p>
<p>Or useful serving-man and instrument”</p>
<p>Miles gushes over Monk in his autobiography, but he also recounts the legendary controversy over his asking Monk to lay out and not play behind him on the album they did together.  Because “Monk never did know how to play behind a horn player.”</p>
<p>What I read into the controversy is that Monk did not want to be secondary to Miles…nor should he be…nor will he be.</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBP9tYncw8E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBP9tYncw8E</a></p>
<p>Great interview, and I love the insight about Monk influencing the sounds of the album &#8220;Money Jungle.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually an interview about music winds up less than satisfactory because I prefer to have the experience of the music.

This was truly an amazing interview and maybe your best Chris and there can&#039;t be a better one about Monk&#039;s music. This adds to the experience of the music.



First, you gave this the time it needed. And then you gave Robin Kelley the room to pour out- especially on each song as they were playing softly in the background. That as you were gently leading with informed comments both ( and best) musically but also biographically. The focus was on the music and the essence of Monk&#039;s innovation and creativity. I prepared myself by listening to CD&#039;s that I have.  For me it&#039;s Monks simplicity I love- his left hand- his cords- the spirit coming through, the groping. Especially the groping- and in Crepuscule for Nellie and the part of the interview where you played that and were talking about it- that was a high spot for me.  I love that piece. I know piano basics. I had lessons as a kid. I love the piano. I have one- keep it in tune. I don&#039;t know a lot of technical language- yet I could understand enough of the analysis you both were talking about.



This interview too needs another listen there is so much jam packed into it!



This was a gift- thank you and also Robin Kelley for the love you seem to have put into your book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually an interview about music winds up less than satisfactory because I prefer to have the experience of the music.</p>
<p>This was truly an amazing interview and maybe your best Chris and there can&#8217;t be a better one about Monk&#8217;s music. This adds to the experience of the music.</p>
<p>First, you gave this the time it needed. And then you gave Robin Kelley the room to pour out- especially on each song as they were playing softly in the background. That as you were gently leading with informed comments both ( and best) musically but also biographically. The focus was on the music and the essence of Monk&#8217;s innovation and creativity. I prepared myself by listening to CD&#8217;s that I have.  For me it&#8217;s Monks simplicity I love- his left hand- his cords- the spirit coming through, the groping. Especially the groping- and in Crepuscule for Nellie and the part of the interview where you played that and were talking about it- that was a high spot for me.  I love that piece. I know piano basics. I had lessons as a kid. I love the piano. I have one- keep it in tune. I don&#8217;t know a lot of technical language- yet I could understand enough of the analysis you both were talking about.</p>
<p>This interview too needs another listen there is so much jam packed into it!</p>
<p>This was a gift- thank you and also Robin Kelley for the love you seem to have put into your book.</p>
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		<title>By: katemcshane</title>
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		<dc:creator>katemcshane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to this interview during several breaks at a terrible job.  At first, I didn&#039;t realize it was Robin D. G. Kelley, because the podcast omitted the middle initials, but I recognized his voice.  I once sold books for a reading Robin did at Harvard for YO&#039; MAMA&#039;S DISFUNKTIONAL!  He was wonderful.  I read every book of his that was in print at the time.  He&#039;s one of the handful of authors I periodically check for anything new.   Isn&#039;t he brilliant?!!  And sweet.  I can&#039;t wait to read this.  Thanks, Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to this interview during several breaks at a terrible job.  At first, I didn&#8217;t realize it was Robin D. G. Kelley, because the podcast omitted the middle initials, but I recognized his voice.  I once sold books for a reading Robin did at Harvard for YO&#8217; MAMA&#8217;S DISFUNKTIONAL!  He was wonderful.  I read every book of his that was in print at the time.  He&#8217;s one of the handful of authors I periodically check for anything new.   Isn&#8217;t he brilliant?!!  And sweet.  I can&#8217;t wait to read this.  Thanks, Chris.</p>
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