Comments on: Rome to Yellowcake to a Grand Jury: How Did We Get Here? http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:09:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66273 LeeJudt Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:53:22 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66273 The above comments were posted in error. They belong on the Wilsonian program blog. The above comments were posted in error.

They belong on the Wilsonian program blog.

]]> By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66272 LeeJudt Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:49:11 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66272 btw: didn't the allies bring democracy to Germany and Italy at the point of a gun? btw: didn’t the allies bring democracy to Germany and Italy at the point of a gun?

]]> By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66271 LeeJudt Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:48:18 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66271 Someone just said that you can't create democracy at the point of a gun. What do they call the American Revolution? There are other places in the world where democracy was created by revolution which is to say at the point of a gun. Someone just said that you can’t create democracy at the point of a gun.

What do they call the American Revolution?

There are other places in the world where democracy was created by revolution which is to say at the point of a gun.

]]> By: Potter http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66270 Potter Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:00:24 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66270 It's somewhat satisfying to see the oh so slow wheels of justice turning trying to get us out of some mud but it's hardly enough. There's a lot of jumping up and down and excitement about Fitzmas and plenty of detail to keep minds busy. But there is still an elephant in the room and many of us know it and fear this may be all we get. Most disturbing, as mentioned, is how we have been denied the independent and Senate investigations promised into the use or misuse of intelligence by Bush, Cheney and advisors to fit the policy to go to war. By the time we get around to impeachment hearings, if we do, this term of office will be up. But the truth will and has to come out sooner or later. At the very least, we have to make sure that neoconism is absolutely dead. Rove, if indicted and even judged guilty, will still be giving advice to Bush- by telephone from a jail cell. And Libby will fall on his sword to protect Cheney. This was a good show, and a great post-game analysis by Chris. I agree with John le Carre more now than ever. PS- Listening to an NPR show on the other station yesterday morning- interviews with families of those soldiers who have died.- it hurt to hear grieving families on the need to go to war in Iraq so that we would not have to fight here, that this "war on terrorism" was our necessary response to 9/11. Another complaint is that we are not hearing the good news. The example given: when a school was blown up by insurgents we did not hear that it was our soldiers that built that school. But I was thinking yes but- the net result was zero.( or minus.) It’s somewhat satisfying to see the oh so slow wheels of justice turning trying to get us out of some mud but it’s hardly enough. There’s a lot of jumping up and down and excitement about Fitzmas and plenty of detail to keep minds busy. But there is still an elephant in the room and many of us know it and fear this may be all we get.

Most disturbing, as mentioned, is how we have been denied the independent and Senate investigations promised into the use or misuse of intelligence by Bush, Cheney and advisors to fit the policy to go to war. By the time we get around to impeachment hearings, if we do, this term of office will be up. But the truth will and has to come out sooner or later. At the very least, we have to make sure that neoconism is absolutely dead.

Rove, if indicted and even judged guilty, will still be giving advice to Bush- by telephone from a jail cell. And Libby will fall on his sword to protect Cheney.

This was a good show, and a great post-game analysis by Chris. I agree with John le Carre more now than ever.

PS- Listening to an NPR show on the other station yesterday morning- interviews with families of those soldiers who have died.- it hurt to hear grieving families on the need to go to war in Iraq so that we would not have to fight here, that this “war on terrorism” was our necessary response to 9/11. Another complaint is that we are not hearing the good news. The example given: when a school was blown up by insurgents we did not hear that it was our soldiers that built that school. But I was thinking yes but- the net result was zero.( or minus.)

]]> By: loyallistener http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66269 loyallistener Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:46:30 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66269 Wow.... you can pack more substance, debate and humanity into an hour of radio/broadcast [and with audio allure!] than anyone I've ever heard. Amazzzzing Mr. Lydon and friends. Wow…. you can pack more substance, debate and humanity into an hour of radio/broadcast [and with audio allure!] than anyone I’ve ever heard. Amazzzzing Mr. Lydon and friends.

]]> By: JonGarfunkel http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66268 JonGarfunkel Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:20:21 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66268 Excellent show, just listened to it, thanks for pulling it together. This was one of the most informative shows to date-- all three guests were quite knowledgeable about what was known when. For the record, a few other people lobbied to get Landay on-- not just my little poem! Excellent show, just listened to it, thanks for pulling it together. This was one of the most informative shows to date– all three guests were quite knowledgeable about what was known when.

For the record, a few other people lobbied to get Landay on– not just my little poem!

]]> By: bft http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66267 bft Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:22:01 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66267 Another precursor of 9.11: James Hilton's "Lost Horizon". No explosions, but a foreigner with a long-term plan in an American flight school...no Muslims, but Nestorian Christians... Another precursor of 9.11: James Hilton’s “Lost Horizon”. No explosions, but a foreigner with a long-term plan in an American flight school…no Muslims, but Nestorian Christians…

]]> By: bloggeddown http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66266 bloggeddown Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:51:31 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66266 ..is this admin evil? .. or just incompetent? Does it make a difference to those who are dead, those with missing limbs, shattered lives? Can the families of our dead and wounded get a sense of relief that "Bush wasn't evil, he was just incompetent" - does that make any difference? Does it matter if it's 'evil' or 'incompetent'? ..is this admin evil? .. or just incompetent?

Does it make a difference to those who are dead, those with missing limbs, shattered lives?

Can the families of our dead and wounded get a sense of relief that “Bush wasn’t evil, he was just incompetent” – does that make any difference?

Does it matter if it’s ‘evil’ or ‘incompetent’?

]]> By: bloggeddown http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66265 bloggeddown Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:47:20 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66265 Larry, what is the sidetrack with the Pakistani N-Bomb all about? Sounds like more blame Clinton to me. What of the the "hundreds of tons of anthrax", the mobile labs, the missiles ready to launch in 45 mintues .. are these are Clinton's fault too? Larry, what is the sidetrack with the Pakistani N-Bomb all about?

Sounds like more blame Clinton to me.

What of the the “hundreds of tons of anthrax”, the mobile labs, the missiles ready to launch in 45 mintues .. are these are Clinton’s fault too?

]]> By: Griflet http://www.radioopensource.org/rome-to-yellowcake-to-a-grand-jury-how-did-we-get-here/#comment-66264 Griflet Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:44:17 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=292#comment-66264 I seems to me that the WMD issue and the need to invade Iraq came up shortly after the Enron revelations surfaced. Thay had been dominating the headlines until the WMD issue was put forward. The media all but dropped Enron for a long time. I'm sure the neocons wanted to invade Iraq all along but Enron may have made it imparitive for those in the idministration who had resisted to go along. I seems to me that the WMD issue and the need to invade Iraq came up shortly after the Enron revelations surfaced. Thay had been dominating the headlines until the WMD issue was put forward. The media all but dropped Enron for a long time. I’m sure the neocons wanted to invade Iraq all along but Enron may have made it imparitive for those in the idministration who had resisted to go along.

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