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		<title>By: Katia Tabeshaw Rojas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katia Tabeshaw Rojas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this site very useful and interesting. I think silence is a very important element in Beckett&#039;s books. 
I&#039;m a big Beckett&#039;s fan and I appreciate this effort very much. Thank you.
- Katia Tabeshaw Rojas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this site very useful and interesting. I think silence is a very important element in Beckett&#8217;s books.<br />
I&#8217;m a big Beckett&#8217;s fan and I appreciate this effort very much. Thank you.<br />
- Katia Tabeshaw Rojas</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 06:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oolitic, thank you for that gift of a link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oolitic, thank you for that gift of a link.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 05:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you hurley, that is a heartfelt sincere letter.  That letter probably meant more to Mr. Schneider then any of the formatted niceties people generally send.  
It says a lot about Beckett&#039;s compassion, something many people assume he lacked.  

After thinking about what you wrote I realized what you were saying about the difficulty in describing the tangible affect he had on your life.  I realized because you turned the question back to me and I had trouble answering it.

You asked who has affected me and I would have to say Gao Xingjian the Chinese Nobel prize winning author of &quot;Soul Mountain&quot; and &quot;One Man&#039;s Bible.&quot;  His writing breaks all the rules buts still sticks to the gut.  He was a victim of Mao and in exile he delved into the self, his writing takes me on that journey.  I love how he plays with pronouns and with genres.  Most of all I&#039;m moved by the connection I feel to him.  I&#039;m moved by the fact that we couldn&#039;t be more different as people but I still feel some direct link to him - some link to his humanity.  

It&#039;s funny, I was googling Mr. Xingjian tonight just to see what he is up to and I came across info that mentioned his major influence as Samuel Beckett.  He has even translated Beckett into Chinese.  It&#039;s cool how things connect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you hurley, that is a heartfelt sincere letter.  That letter probably meant more to Mr. Schneider then any of the formatted niceties people generally send.<br />
It says a lot about Beckett&#8217;s compassion, something many people assume he lacked.  </p>
<p>After thinking about what you wrote I realized what you were saying about the difficulty in describing the tangible affect he had on your life.  I realized because you turned the question back to me and I had trouble answering it.</p>
<p>You asked who has affected me and I would have to say Gao Xingjian the Chinese Nobel prize winning author of &#8220;Soul Mountain&#8221; and &#8220;One Man&#8217;s Bible.&#8221;  His writing breaks all the rules buts still sticks to the gut.  He was a victim of Mao and in exile he delved into the self, his writing takes me on that journey.  I love how he plays with pronouns and with genres.  Most of all I&#8217;m moved by the connection I feel to him.  I&#8217;m moved by the fact that we couldn&#8217;t be more different as people but I still feel some direct link to him &#8211; some link to his humanity.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, I was googling Mr. Xingjian tonight just to see what he is up to and I came across info that mentioned his major influence as Samuel Beckett.  He has even translated Beckett into Chinese.  It&#8217;s cool how things connect.</p>
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		<title>By: oolitic</title>
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		<dc:creator>oolitic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 00:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was not able to contribute this in time, but hope that you might still enjoy it.
It is a marvelous recording of Cascando as captured from the late night
show &quot;Brave New Waves&quot; on CBC probably 20 years ago. There was
no credit to the particular recording, so I have no way of knowing what it
is (hence why I did not post it).

A low-quality version can be found at http://mysite.verizon.net/scottralph/Cascando.mp3

I would be happy to send you a copy of the high quality MP3, if you find you like it.

If you have heard several of the &quot;silly&quot; renditions, as have I -- renditions surely
departing from the intended depiction, this recording will seem like a breath
of fresh air (IMO).

When I first heard this, I was living is a terrible basement apartment in Vancouver, BC, while in
graduate school. My roommate and I rigged up an analog oscilloscope to run off of the stereo output
(left channel being the vertical signal, and right channel being the horizontal), and dimmed the lights
and played this recording with the aid of several glasses of wine. The effect was
truly magical! The instruments and vocals made some truly lovely patterns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was not able to contribute this in time, but hope that you might still enjoy it.<br />
It is a marvelous recording of Cascando as captured from the late night<br />
show &#8220;Brave New Waves&#8221; on CBC probably 20 years ago. There was<br />
no credit to the particular recording, so I have no way of knowing what it<br />
is (hence why I did not post it).</p>
<p>A low-quality version can be found at <a href="http://mysite.verizon.net/scottralph/Cascando.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://mysite.verizon.net/scottralph/Cascando.mp3</a></p>
<p>I would be happy to send you a copy of the high quality MP3, if you find you like it.</p>
<p>If you have heard several of the &#8220;silly&#8221; renditions, as have I &#8212; renditions surely<br />
departing from the intended depiction, this recording will seem like a breath<br />
of fresh air (IMO).</p>
<p>When I first heard this, I was living is a terrible basement apartment in Vancouver, BC, while in<br />
graduate school. My roommate and I rigged up an analog oscilloscope to run off of the stereo output<br />
(left channel being the vertical signal, and right channel being the horizontal), and dimmed the lights<br />
and played this recording with the aid of several glasses of wine. The effect was<br />
truly magical! The instruments and vocals made some truly lovely patterns.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nother: The Beckett letter to Alan Schneider, on the death of Schneider&#039;s father:

I know your sorrow and I know that for the likes of us there is no ease for the heart to be had from words or reason and that in the very assurance of sorrow&#039;s fading there is more sorrow. So I offer you only my deeply affecctionate and compassionate thoughts and wish for you only the strang thing that may never fail you, whatever it is, that gives us the strength to live on and on with our wounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nother: The Beckett letter to Alan Schneider, on the death of Schneider&#8217;s father:</p>
<p>I know your sorrow and I know that for the likes of us there is no ease for the heart to be had from words or reason and that in the very assurance of sorrow&#8217;s fading there is more sorrow. So I offer you only my deeply affecctionate and compassionate thoughts and wish for you only the strang thing that may never fail you, whatever it is, that gives us the strength to live on and on with our wounds.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nother: I&#039;ll transcribe that letter soon as I&#039;m home. As for Beckett&#039;s impact on me, I couldn&#039;t describe it in any meaningful way except in terms of how great art affects anyone who has the luck or patience to attend to it. Beckett never says, You must change your life. Again, I like your stress, but it&#039;s so unfamiliar that I have trouble doing it justice. There&#039;s a very great and more or less unheralded American writer named William S. Wilson (Birthplace, Why I Don&#039;t Write Like Franz Kafka) prowling the web whose emphasis, as best I can tell, is firmly in your direction. He&#039;s worth searching out, and I may yet propose a show in his direction. Give me an example of sometihng that has touched you in the way you think Beckett has touched me, and perhaps we can align our terms. More on the rest another time. Many thanks in the meantime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nother: I&#8217;ll transcribe that letter soon as I&#8217;m home. As for Beckett&#8217;s impact on me, I couldn&#8217;t describe it in any meaningful way except in terms of how great art affects anyone who has the luck or patience to attend to it. Beckett never says, You must change your life. Again, I like your stress, but it&#8217;s so unfamiliar that I have trouble doing it justice. There&#8217;s a very great and more or less unheralded American writer named William S. Wilson (Birthplace, Why I Don&#8217;t Write Like Franz Kafka) prowling the web whose emphasis, as best I can tell, is firmly in your direction. He&#8217;s worth searching out, and I may yet propose a show in his direction. Give me an example of sometihng that has touched you in the way you think Beckett has touched me, and perhaps we can align our terms. More on the rest another time. Many thanks in the meantime.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 06:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hurley, I just listened to the podcast and was impressed.  I sincerely hope you plan on translating that letter; I would love to hear it.

Also, it would be cool to hear something more personal about Beckett&#039;s impact on you; that&#039;s the beauty of blogs you can let it all out and I wonâ€™t look at you funny in the morning.  :-)

From the show I learned he had the rigor you speak of â€“ for is art.  But listening to Mr. Seaver, we also learn that Mr. Beckett was very chill, very relaxed about his art.  He was like â€œwhat do you think about the word clothed instead of dressed?

Thatâ€™s the best thing I learned about Beckett, he isnâ€™t anal.  Being anal or uptight isnâ€™t worth it â€“ even to the rigoress Samuel Beckett â€“ especially to the rigoress Beckett!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hurley, I just listened to the podcast and was impressed.  I sincerely hope you plan on translating that letter; I would love to hear it.</p>
<p>Also, it would be cool to hear something more personal about Beckett&#8217;s impact on you; that&#8217;s the beauty of blogs you can let it all out and I wonâ€™t look at you funny in the morning.  <img src='http://www.radioopensource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>From the show I learned he had the rigor you speak of â€“ for is art.  But listening to Mr. Seaver, we also learn that Mr. Beckett was very chill, very relaxed about his art.  He was like â€œwhat do you think about the word clothed instead of dressed?</p>
<p>Thatâ€™s the best thing I learned about Beckett, he isnâ€™t anal.  Being anal or uptight isnâ€™t worth it â€“ even to the rigoress Samuel Beckett â€“ especially to the rigoress Beckett!</p>
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		<title>By: bsavvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsavvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just listened to your Beckett show.  Just beautiful.  I can go on, but I wonâ€™t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just listened to your Beckett show.  Just beautiful.  I can go on, but I wonâ€™t.</p>
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		<title>By: andy b</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How satisfying it was to hear the Beckett show.  I&#039;m a podcast listener, so I didn&#039;t know it was upcoming--don&#039;t visit the website often enough--but I recommended it months ago when there was a general call for upcoming show topics.  I wish I could have heard it live...I think Chris and his choice of guests did justice to Sam. 

I went to Dublin specifically to celebrate Beckett&#039;s centenary. There were plays, events, and great symposium at Trinity College.  A week ago last Thursday, on his birthday, I bought an atlas of Dublin and took the train from Dublin to Killiney, from there I walked to &quot;Cooldrinagh&quot;, Beckett&#039;s childhood home and birthplace.  It was originally in a semi-rural setting, but it&#039;s now a fashionable and expensive suburb, still called Foxrock.  The house is currently surrounded by high fences and security cameras--a private residence and not much to see.  But I could barely make out the 2nd floor room with bow windows where Samuel Beckett was (likely) conceived and born--see &quot;Company&quot;.  There was no one else about and no commemorations of any sort.  It contrasted nicely with the multitude of celebrations in Dublin, and though I was disappointed, it was probably fitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How satisfying it was to hear the Beckett show.  I&#8217;m a podcast listener, so I didn&#8217;t know it was upcoming&#8211;don&#8217;t visit the website often enough&#8211;but I recommended it months ago when there was a general call for upcoming show topics.  I wish I could have heard it live&#8230;I think Chris and his choice of guests did justice to Sam. </p>
<p>I went to Dublin specifically to celebrate Beckett&#8217;s centenary. There were plays, events, and great symposium at Trinity College.  A week ago last Thursday, on his birthday, I bought an atlas of Dublin and took the train from Dublin to Killiney, from there I walked to &#8220;Cooldrinagh&#8221;, Beckett&#8217;s childhood home and birthplace.  It was originally in a semi-rural setting, but it&#8217;s now a fashionable and expensive suburb, still called Foxrock.  The house is currently surrounded by high fences and security cameras&#8211;a private residence and not much to see.  But I could barely make out the 2nd floor room with bow windows where Samuel Beckett was (likely) conceived and born&#8211;see &#8220;Company&#8221;.  There was no one else about and no commemorations of any sort.  It contrasted nicely with the multitude of celebrations in Dublin, and though I was disappointed, it was probably fitting.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nother: At the risk of stiking a Grasshopper pose, I&#039;m more accustomed to asking questions than answering them, which is why my answers last time round were misleading. &quot;Rigor&quot; and &quot;terminal&quot; in the same paragraph invite the sort of joke Beckett might have executed (&quot;mortis&quot; lexically at attention nearbye). &quot;Rigor&quot; might be substituted by &quot;precision,&quot; though I was referring to his art, not his attitude to morality. However: there is a devastatingly beautiful letter of his to Alan Schneider on the death of Schneider&#039;s father that I have nearly off  by heart but not near enough to risk mis-representing: I&#039;ll transcribe it soon when home. It&#039;s everything you wish you might have said to someone you love who has lost someone they love. In terms of &quot;terminal,&quot; I was referring to his writing. It was a dead end, a lovely way to a dead end, but still a dead end. He staked out his path and drove it to it&#039;s conclusion. One could only hope to imitate it by imitating it&#039;s rigor, care, etc. That&#039;s the lesson Beckett claimed to have learned from Joyce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nother: At the risk of stiking a Grasshopper pose, I&#8217;m more accustomed to asking questions than answering them, which is why my answers last time round were misleading. &#8220;Rigor&#8221; and &#8220;terminal&#8221; in the same paragraph invite the sort of joke Beckett might have executed (&#8220;mortis&#8221; lexically at attention nearbye). &#8220;Rigor&#8221; might be substituted by &#8220;precision,&#8221; though I was referring to his art, not his attitude to morality. However: there is a devastatingly beautiful letter of his to Alan Schneider on the death of Schneider&#8217;s father that I have nearly off  by heart but not near enough to risk mis-representing: I&#8217;ll transcribe it soon when home. It&#8217;s everything you wish you might have said to someone you love who has lost someone they love. In terms of &#8220;terminal,&#8221; I was referring to his writing. It was a dead end, a lovely way to a dead end, but still a dead end. He staked out his path and drove it to it&#8217;s conclusion. One could only hope to imitate it by imitating it&#8217;s rigor, care, etc. That&#8217;s the lesson Beckett claimed to have learned from Joyce.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks hurley, you answered my question, I appreciate it.   &quot;Care and rigor,&quot; &quot;compassion&quot; - nice.  

I&#039;m curious about the word &quot;rigor,&quot; I looked it up - &quot;Strictness or severity, as in temperament, action, or judgment.&quot;  Do you mean we should take away from Beckett a lesson of rigor, in how we deal with death only, or in every day life? Personally, I try to face the hills and valleys with a relaxed temperament.  Although, I realize that when one of my loved ones inevitably dies, &quot;rigor&quot; might be in order - if only to keep me sane until enough time passes to forget.

I&#039;m a little confused by the &quot;terminal&quot; idea and how that relates to Joyce.  Do you mean that he finally confronted death and nothingness full on in his work? 

You don&#039;t have to answer these questions concerning my confusion, along with my relaxed temperament, I move through life in a state of confusion.

I will say one thing before I listen to the podcast today.  I&#039;m struck by how many people recognize the name &quot;Samuel Beckett&quot; beyond the works of Samuel Beckett.  It reminds me of John Cage and how people can tell you his philosophy on music when they haven&#039;t even listened to his music.  Many people can tell you about Pollack&#039;s style of painting, without ever have seen one of his paintings.  

It tells me that the ideas that some artists introduce to our world transcend any specific piece of art they created.  

The idea is the art.  Another example is Andy Warhol. 

In this way, these artists become philosophers, do they not?  

Although, it would seem that the other side of the coin is, they sometimes create a specific piece of art (like &quot;Wainting for Godot&quot;) that trancends both the idea and the artist.

Just rambling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks hurley, you answered my question, I appreciate it.   &#8220;Care and rigor,&#8221; &#8220;compassion&#8221; &#8211; nice.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious about the word &#8220;rigor,&#8221; I looked it up &#8211; &#8220;Strictness or severity, as in temperament, action, or judgment.&#8221;  Do you mean we should take away from Beckett a lesson of rigor, in how we deal with death only, or in every day life? Personally, I try to face the hills and valleys with a relaxed temperament.  Although, I realize that when one of my loved ones inevitably dies, &#8220;rigor&#8221; might be in order &#8211; if only to keep me sane until enough time passes to forget.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little confused by the &#8220;terminal&#8221; idea and how that relates to Joyce.  Do you mean that he finally confronted death and nothingness full on in his work? </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to answer these questions concerning my confusion, along with my relaxed temperament, I move through life in a state of confusion.</p>
<p>I will say one thing before I listen to the podcast today.  I&#8217;m struck by how many people recognize the name &#8220;Samuel Beckett&#8221; beyond the works of Samuel Beckett.  It reminds me of John Cage and how people can tell you his philosophy on music when they haven&#8217;t even listened to his music.  Many people can tell you about Pollack&#8217;s style of painting, without ever have seen one of his paintings.  </p>
<p>It tells me that the ideas that some artists introduce to our world transcend any specific piece of art they created.  </p>
<p>The idea is the art.  Another example is Andy Warhol. </p>
<p>In this way, these artists become philosophers, do they not?  </p>
<p>Although, it would seem that the other side of the coin is, they sometimes create a specific piece of art (like &#8220;Wainting for Godot&#8221;) that trancends both the idea and the artist.</p>
<p>Just rambling.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nother: I like your question, but I don&#039;t think I can answer it. As a maker, one might take from Beckett what he took from Joyce, a lesson in care and rigor. Any question of imitation is moot: his achievement, as Al Alvarez put it, was terminal (like that of Joyce -- an understanding that finally liberated Beckett from the distorting influence you see in the early work.) As a human being, one might do worse than to bear in mind Beckett&#039;s evident compassion. One story among the many that I love about him goes that a friend of Beckett refused to conceal from a mutual friend who was dying the grim truth of his condition. Beckett, furious, replied, &quot;Another fucking moralist.&quot; Great show, great conversation, many thanks to all.
(A show on William Gaddis wouldn&#039;t be a bad follow-up.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nother: I like your question, but I don&#8217;t think I can answer it. As a maker, one might take from Beckett what he took from Joyce, a lesson in care and rigor. Any question of imitation is moot: his achievement, as Al Alvarez put it, was terminal (like that of Joyce &#8212; an understanding that finally liberated Beckett from the distorting influence you see in the early work.) As a human being, one might do worse than to bear in mind Beckett&#8217;s evident compassion. One story among the many that I love about him goes that a friend of Beckett refused to conceal from a mutual friend who was dying the grim truth of his condition. Beckett, furious, replied, &#8220;Another fucking moralist.&#8221; Great show, great conversation, many thanks to all.<br />
(A show on William Gaddis wouldn&#8217;t be a bad follow-up.)</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marianne, great post!  I hope you&#039;ll post more, on any topic.</description>
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		<title>By: peggysue</title>
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		<dc:creator>peggysue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was great. I knew so little about Beckett that was an appreciated introduction. Thanks.
I too enjoy the arty shows.</description>
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		<title>By: cheesechowmain</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheesechowmain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent show in topic and execution. And I&#039;ll echo what fiddlesticks said: more programs on lit &amp; poetry, phil, and visual arts (artists or critics). Always great.</description>
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		<title>By: fiddlesticks</title>
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		<dc:creator>fiddlesticks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beckett wrote a short but brilliant study of Proust. 

I really enjoyed the program. I like to see more programs on literature and philosophy aired as well as painting.</description>
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<p>I really enjoyed the program. I like to see more programs on literature and philosophy aired as well as painting.</p>
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		<title>By: marianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way to get at SB&#039;s wrangling with words is to look at PROUST.  One of the reasons SB is always searching for the &quot;right&quot; word and (in his opinion) failing to find it is touched on in PROUST, in which (I&#039;m paraphrasing because I can&#039;t find my copy) he says that it is impossible to accurately describe something because the thing--the subject-- being described and the moment of describing it don&#039;t coincide.  Once the description begins, the subject has changed.  A line I remember: &quot;The observer infects the observed with his own mobility.&quot; 

Also from PROUST: &quot;Habit is the ballast that chains the dog to his vomit.&quot;  It&#039;s a line that sticks with one.

I love Beckett&#039;s optimism.  He keeps &quot;going on&quot; even when he says he can&#039;t.
A favorite quotation (from MOLLOY): &quot;And having heard or more probably read somewhere in the days when I thought I would be well advised to educate myself or amuse myself or stupefy myself or kill time,  that when a man in a forest thinks he is going in a straight line, in reality he is going in a circle, I did my best to go in a circle, hoping in that way to go in a straight line.  And if I did not go in a rigorously straight line, with my system of going in a circle, at least I did not go in a circle, and that was something.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to get at SB&#8217;s wrangling with words is to look at PROUST.  One of the reasons SB is always searching for the &#8220;right&#8221; word and (in his opinion) failing to find it is touched on in PROUST, in which (I&#8217;m paraphrasing because I can&#8217;t find my copy) he says that it is impossible to accurately describe something because the thing&#8211;the subject&#8211; being described and the moment of describing it don&#8217;t coincide.  Once the description begins, the subject has changed.  A line I remember: &#8220;The observer infects the observed with his own mobility.&#8221; </p>
<p>Also from PROUST: &#8220;Habit is the ballast that chains the dog to his vomit.&#8221;  It&#8217;s a line that sticks with one.</p>
<p>I love Beckett&#8217;s optimism.  He keeps &#8220;going on&#8221; even when he says he can&#8217;t.<br />
A favorite quotation (from MOLLOY): &#8220;And having heard or more probably read somewhere in the days when I thought I would be well advised to educate myself or amuse myself or stupefy myself or kill time,  that when a man in a forest thinks he is going in a straight line, in reality he is going in a circle, I did my best to go in a circle, hoping in that way to go in a straight line.  And if I did not go in a rigorously straight line, with my system of going in a circle, at least I did not go in a circle, and that was something.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant show! The only way to &quot;get&quot; Beckett is to let him get you.</description>
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		<title>By: FedericoMuchnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>FedericoMuchnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a strange coincidence. Netflix has &quot;Beckett on Film&quot; and I&#039;ve just seen Michael Lindsay Hogg&#039;s take on Waiting for Godot. Nothing less than masterful. So is Catastrophe, with Pinter, Rebecca Pidgeon, Sir John Geilgud, directed by David Mamet....this omnibus oeuvre, featuring all 19 Beckett plays was produced - I think - by the brits and the Irish back in 2001. It is essential. It reminds us of those eternal truths; we&#039;re here, we&#039;re stuck, we need to laugh at all of this, and no on here gets out alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a strange coincidence. Netflix has &#8220;Beckett on Film&#8221; and I&#8217;ve just seen Michael Lindsay Hogg&#8217;s take on Waiting for Godot. Nothing less than masterful. So is Catastrophe, with Pinter, Rebecca Pidgeon, Sir John Geilgud, directed by David Mamet&#8230;.this omnibus oeuvre, featuring all 19 Beckett plays was produced &#8211; I think &#8211; by the brits and the Irish back in 2001. It is essential. It reminds us of those eternal truths; we&#8217;re here, we&#8217;re stuck, we need to laugh at all of this, and no on here gets out alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beckett for Dummies! Nothing to it!  An excellent show! I recommend the Ubuweb sound links above for a real treat (extra credit listening). The ending with Schibert was perfect. Thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: peadarquinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>peadarquinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pillars of literature in the twentieth century come from Ireland: Joyce created the world from a human perspective while Sam Beckett vanquished it, emptied it, if only to drive us within the great mystery that is ours to live. Beckett waas fond of quoting the Greek Stoic philosopher who said, &#039;where you are worth nothing, you should expect nothing&#039;. A sweet tweak of western values as the &#039;President&#039; of China visits us with a 200 billion deficit.
Long live Sam
Peadar Quinn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pillars of literature in the twentieth century come from Ireland: Joyce created the world from a human perspective while Sam Beckett vanquished it, emptied it, if only to drive us within the great mystery that is ours to live. Beckett waas fond of quoting the Greek Stoic philosopher who said, &#8216;where you are worth nothing, you should expect nothing&#8217;. A sweet tweak of western values as the &#8216;President&#8217; of China visits us with a 200 billion deficit.<br />
Long live Sam<br />
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurley, you said that you&#039;ve read just about all his stuff.  I look forward that adventure myself.  I hope you&#039;ll share more insight into what kept you reading.  How do his ideas connect to the every day - for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurley, you said that you&#8217;ve read just about all his stuff.  I look forward that adventure myself.  I hope you&#8217;ll share more insight into what kept you reading.  How do his ideas connect to the every day &#8211; for you.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could nature be where we find &quot;hope&quot; in Beckett?

In his novel Watt, he writes the following beautiful passage: (again taken from Banville&#039;s article)

&quot;The crocuses and the larch turning green every year a week before the others and the pastures red with uneaten sheep&#039;s placentas and the long summer days and the new-mown hay and the wood-pigeon in the morning and the cuckoo in the afternoon and the corncrake in the evening and the wasps in the jam and the smell of the gorse and the look of the gorse and the apples falling and the children walking in the dead leaves and the larch turning brown a week before the others and the chestnuts falling and the howling winds and the sea breaking over the pier and the first fires and the hooves on the road and the consumptive postman whistling The Roses Are Blooming in Picardy and the standard oil-lamp and of course the snow and to be sure the sleet and bless your heart the slush and every fourth year the February debacle and the endless April showers and the crocuses and then the whole bloody business starting over again.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could nature be where we find &#8220;hope&#8221; in Beckett?</p>
<p>In his novel Watt, he writes the following beautiful passage: (again taken from Banville&#8217;s article)</p>
<p>&#8220;The crocuses and the larch turning green every year a week before the others and the pastures red with uneaten sheep&#8217;s placentas and the long summer days and the new-mown hay and the wood-pigeon in the morning and the cuckoo in the afternoon and the corncrake in the evening and the wasps in the jam and the smell of the gorse and the look of the gorse and the apples falling and the children walking in the dead leaves and the larch turning brown a week before the others and the chestnuts falling and the howling winds and the sea breaking over the pier and the first fires and the hooves on the road and the consumptive postman whistling The Roses Are Blooming in Picardy and the standard oil-lamp and of course the snow and to be sure the sleet and bless your heart the slush and every fourth year the February debacle and the endless April showers and the crocuses and then the whole bloody business starting over again.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I&#039;ve read Beckett had a passion for painting, esspecially the Dutch masters.  Apparently, the painting &quot;Two Men Contemplating the Moon&quot; by Caspar David Friedrich was one of the inspirations for Waiting for Godot. 
 http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/10/euwc/ho_2000.51.htm

He was greatly interested in Cezanne&#039;s take on nature: In a letter Beckett wrote: 

&quot;What I feel in CÃ©zanne is precisely the absence of a rapport that was all right for Rosa or Ruysdael for whom the animising mode was valid, but would have been fake for him, because he had the sense of his incommensurability not only with life of such a different order as landscape, but even with life of his own order, even with the life . . . operative in himself.&quot;

As far as his connection to Joyce, Beckett wrote that he: 

&quot;realized that Joyce had gone as far as one could in the direction of knowing more, in control of one&#039;s material. He was always adding to it; you only have to look at his proofs to see that. I realized that my own way was in impoverishment, in lack of knowledge and in taking away, in subtracting rather than adding.&quot;

I found all this in an article by John Banville in the Irish Times.
http://www.ireland.com/focus/beckett/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve read Beckett had a passion for painting, esspecially the Dutch masters.  Apparently, the painting &#8220;Two Men Contemplating the Moon&#8221; by Caspar David Friedrich was one of the inspirations for Waiting for Godot.<br />
 <a href="http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/10/euwc/ho_2000.51.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/10/euwc/ho_2000.51.htm</a></p>
<p>He was greatly interested in Cezanne&#8217;s take on nature: In a letter Beckett wrote: </p>
<p>&#8220;What I feel in CÃ©zanne is precisely the absence of a rapport that was all right for Rosa or Ruysdael for whom the animising mode was valid, but would have been fake for him, because he had the sense of his incommensurability not only with life of such a different order as landscape, but even with life of his own order, even with the life . . . operative in himself.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as his connection to Joyce, Beckett wrote that he: </p>
<p>&#8220;realized that Joyce had gone as far as one could in the direction of knowing more, in control of one&#8217;s material. He was always adding to it; you only have to look at his proofs to see that. I realized that my own way was in impoverishment, in lack of knowledge and in taking away, in subtracting rather than adding.&#8221;</p>
<p>I found all this in an article by John Banville in the Irish Times.<br />
<a href="http://www.ireland.com/focus/beckett/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ireland.com/focus/beckett/</a></p>
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		<title>By: loki</title>
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		<dc:creator>loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the wait.......</description>
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		<title>By: cheesechowmain</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheesechowmain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serious Lee. I demur with the tenor of your last post. Incidently, carbon is a very mediocre element and look at its bounty.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/globe/search/stories/health/science_musings/120197.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From the archives&lt;/a&gt;

We&#039;ll miss you Serious Lee. Don&#039;t be gone long

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serious Lee. I demur with the tenor of your last post. Incidently, carbon is a very mediocre element and look at its bounty.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/globe/search/stories/health/science_musings/120197.htm" rel="nofollow">From the archives</a></p>
<p>We&#8217;ll miss you Serious Lee. Don&#8217;t be gone long</p>
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		<title>By: serious lee</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoooold on ther people Beckett was a looser.  Scroll back and looka t his picture, now that the picture of an unfulfilled and lonely looser.  Let&#039;s face it he had nothing to say.  I know, I know, you&#039;re all impressed cause in the small town in Kansas you came from he&#039;s really really smart and oh so sardonic.  Poo poo my low life friends.  Don&#039;t be so impressed by some wordy looser.  If he&#039;d actually fullfilled any of the fantacies he&#039;d ever had he would have been silent.  Most of the wordy bastards that call them selves writers are miserable failures as human beings.  Only real men like Hemmingway had the sense to blow theitr brains out.  Worship your heroes you loosers.   You&#039;ll be no more than you are and all the quote in the world will elevate you beyond the mediocre lives you slosh through. Accept your limitations and keep your worthless thoughts to yourself.  No one cares what you think.  Everyone on this miserable site is only interested in what they write.  They could care less what you think or write.  Don&#039;t believe me?  Try complimenting someone, you&#039;ll have a slavering lap dog of a pal in a minute.  Look at all the loosers on this site that have such miserable lives that they salivate at the idea of another human being meeting them for coffee in Anacortes.  Look at the hubub that&#039;s built over this huge event.  I&#039;d say get a life but I know this is beyond anything any of you would comprehend.  I pity all you loosers that have no dreams or hopes beyond the big meet in Anacortes.  I&#039;m closing out my participation in this site because it&#039;s no fun anymore.  It&#039;s too much like kicking a dog with three legs and the mange.  I volunterer to be the focus of your frustration and volumnous hatred.  Take your best shot you loosers.  I go to a much better and more stimulating place.  Love Serious Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoooold on ther people Beckett was a looser.  Scroll back and looka t his picture, now that the picture of an unfulfilled and lonely looser.  Let&#8217;s face it he had nothing to say.  I know, I know, you&#8217;re all impressed cause in the small town in Kansas you came from he&#8217;s really really smart and oh so sardonic.  Poo poo my low life friends.  Don&#8217;t be so impressed by some wordy looser.  If he&#8217;d actually fullfilled any of the fantacies he&#8217;d ever had he would have been silent.  Most of the wordy bastards that call them selves writers are miserable failures as human beings.  Only real men like Hemmingway had the sense to blow theitr brains out.  Worship your heroes you loosers.   You&#8217;ll be no more than you are and all the quote in the world will elevate you beyond the mediocre lives you slosh through. Accept your limitations and keep your worthless thoughts to yourself.  No one cares what you think.  Everyone on this miserable site is only interested in what they write.  They could care less what you think or write.  Don&#8217;t believe me?  Try complimenting someone, you&#8217;ll have a slavering lap dog of a pal in a minute.  Look at all the loosers on this site that have such miserable lives that they salivate at the idea of another human being meeting them for coffee in Anacortes.  Look at the hubub that&#8217;s built over this huge event.  I&#8217;d say get a life but I know this is beyond anything any of you would comprehend.  I pity all you loosers that have no dreams or hopes beyond the big meet in Anacortes.  I&#8217;m closing out my participation in this site because it&#8217;s no fun anymore.  It&#8217;s too much like kicking a dog with three legs and the mange.  I volunterer to be the focus of your frustration and volumnous hatred.  Take your best shot you loosers.  I go to a much better and more stimulating place.  Love Serious Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hurley, you gota love Beckett&#039;s ironic wit though, there is a semi-colon in the word semi-colon!  He is using an actual semi-colon in a sentence decrying semi-colons!  I love it! 

That five word sentence says so much.  First of all, it&#039;s funny; second of all, the overt contradiction tells us - question anything I ever write; and itâ€™s lastly, it tells us he thinks semi-colons are ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hurley, you gota love Beckett&#8217;s ironic wit though, there is a semi-colon in the word semi-colon!  He is using an actual semi-colon in a sentence decrying semi-colons!  I love it! </p>
<p>That five word sentence says so much.  First of all, it&#8217;s funny; second of all, the overt contradiction tells us &#8211; question anything I ever write; and itâ€™s lastly, it tells us he thinks semi-colons are ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nother: re the hideousness of the semi-colon: Donald Barthelme described them as &quot;uglier than a tick on a dog&#039;s belly.&quot; Bernard Shaw complained of T.E. Lawrence&#039;s allegedly improper use of them; I&#039;m not quite sure myself, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nother: re the hideousness of the semi-colon: Donald Barthelme described them as &#8220;uglier than a tick on a dog&#8217;s belly.&#8221; Bernard Shaw complained of T.E. Lawrence&#8217;s allegedly improper use of them; I&#8217;m not quite sure myself, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke to an old friend of mine who saw &quot;Waiting for Godot&quot; in Paris many years ago, probably when it was first introduced. She and her husband were avid and serious theatre goers and YET they had to walk out on this one. It was too much for them. I find this interesting since she is an artist and very open-minded. Maybe they were not in the mood. But she says she found it was better to read Beckett, and probably much later. 

I feel handicapped when I try to read a play- preferring to see a play acted out.  I am wondering if Beckett is different however. 

I was listening to the audio clips above, some of the same play, different performances. It&#039;s interesting what a different feeling you get from each. Is this moreso with Beckett than with say Shakespeare because he is so minimalist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke to an old friend of mine who saw &#8220;Waiting for Godot&#8221; in Paris many years ago, probably when it was first introduced. She and her husband were avid and serious theatre goers and YET they had to walk out on this one. It was too much for them. I find this interesting since she is an artist and very open-minded. Maybe they were not in the mood. But she says she found it was better to read Beckett, and probably much later. </p>
<p>I feel handicapped when I try to read a play- preferring to see a play acted out.  I am wondering if Beckett is different however. </p>
<p>I was listening to the audio clips above, some of the same play, different performances. It&#8217;s interesting what a different feeling you get from each. Is this moreso with Beckett than with say Shakespeare because he is so minimalist?</p>
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