Comments on: Shakespeare and Power http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:27:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jimfitzmorris http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86864 jimfitzmorris Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:24:20 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86864 In response to LoganD's disgust of the attack on "Bushian Wars:" if you had continued listening, you would have heard a discussion on The Shakespearean Scope of the Johnson Administration. I don't think Chris was so much attacking Bush as trying to keep the paralells in the now. Besides, Hillary, on more than one occasion, was alluded to as the Scottish Queen in that unmentionable play.. In response to LoganD’s disgust of the attack on “Bushian Wars:” if you had continued listening, you would have heard a discussion on The Shakespearean Scope of the Johnson Administration. I don’t think Chris was so much attacking Bush as trying to keep the paralells in the now. Besides, Hillary, on more than one occasion, was alluded to as the Scottish Queen in that unmentionable play..

]]> By: hurley http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86863 hurley Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:18:51 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86863 Yes, Shakespeare and Wart, followed by Hangnail and I... Yes, Shakespeare and Wart, followed by Hangnail and I…

]]> By: hurley http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86862 hurley Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:11:31 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86862 Shakespeare and Wart: http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk03312007.html Shakespeare and Wart: http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk03312007.html

]]> By: Literary Studies and Relativism « Disparate http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86861 Literary Studies and Relativism « Disparate Mon, 02 Apr 2007 03:42:47 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86861 [...] gives attention to the notion that representative democracy may not be an absolute value. Open Source » Blog Archive » Shakespeare and Power This is a rare event, on that show. [...] [...] gives attention to the notion that representative democracy may not be an absolute value. Open Source » Blog Archive » Shakespeare and Power This is a rare event, on that show. [...]

]]> By: herbert browne http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86860 herbert browne Sun, 01 Apr 2007 19:55:43 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86860 Re the quote (from emmettoconnell, above): it sounds more like it's about the medieval church- not about "politics"... However, I agree with eoc himself, when he says .."many of us get into politics because we don’t like it.."- which can be a stimulus to creative expression. ^..^ Re the quote (from emmettoconnell, above): it sounds more like it’s about the medieval church- not about “politics”… However, I agree with eoc himself, when he says ..”many of us get into politics because we don’t like it..”- which can be a stimulus to creative expression. ^..^

]]> By: LoganD http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86859 LoganD Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:44:09 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86859 I loved this show up until the point where Christopher asked the guest if there were any examples of "Bushian" wars in Shakespeare's works. At that point I turned off my iPod in disgust. I'm no supporter of GWB, but why not refer to such wars as "Kennedian" or "Johnsonian"? There have been wars started on false pretenses, just as many by Democrats as Republicans in our history. Why bring political bias into such an interesting program? I loved this show up until the point where Christopher asked the guest if there were any examples of “Bushian” wars in Shakespeare’s works. At that point I turned off my iPod in disgust. I’m no supporter of GWB, but why not refer to such wars as “Kennedian” or “Johnsonian”? There have been wars started on false pretenses, just as many by Democrats as Republicans in our history. Why bring political bias into such an interesting program?

]]> By: enhabit http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86858 enhabit Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:14:45 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86858 maybe the post-modern joke is that dubya is his own falstaff...who's henry? maybe the post-modern joke is that dubya is his own falstaff…who’s henry?

]]> By: loki http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86857 loki Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:39:42 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86857 Without Bebe Rebozo-who is Falstaff in the Bush Administration? I remember Gene McCathy suggesteding that we elect a Vice President and have him appoint a President. Without Bebe Rebozo-who is Falstaff in the Bush Administration? I remember Gene McCathy suggesteding that we elect a Vice President and have him appoint a President.

]]> By: enhabit http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86856 enhabit Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:24:43 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86856 shakespeare was skilled at going right up to that line...when writing about elizabeth's own ancestors after all (maybe she appreciated seeing them humanized)...right up to that line...sneaking a toe or two over it, even at times, a foot..and getting away with it. anybody else would have been enjoying the hospitality of the tower. shakespeare was skilled at going right up to that line…when writing about elizabeth’s own ancestors after all (maybe she appreciated seeing them humanized)…right up to that line…sneaking a toe or two over it, even at times, a foot..and getting away with it. anybody else would have been enjoying the hospitality of the tower.

]]> By: vitamin_j http://www.radioopensource.org/shakespeare-and-power/#comment-86855 vitamin_j Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:10:03 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=990#comment-86855 …in Shakespeare no character with a clear moral vision has a will to power and, conversely, no character with a strong desire to rule over others has an ethically adequate object. Stephen Greenblatt, Shakespeare and the Uses of Power, The New York Review of Books, April 12, 2007 This reminded me of Plato as Socrates in <i>The Republic</i>: (paraphrasing) "...the best leader will also least want to be the leader, and can be convinced to lead only because it is best for the society." That's not to imply that Shakespeare was a Platonist (no way, right?), or that his depictions of power were programmatic as <i>The Republic</i> is. But his education, what we know of it, was mostly in the classics, I believe. And I can't resist the rampant speculation that he read the (pseudo)quoted section in Plato, and his mind, loving the paradoxes in the formulation, as well as the potential of its inverse, filed it away for later use or thought, perhaps just as background for his portraits of humans trying to govern. …in Shakespeare no character with a clear moral vision has a will to power and, conversely, no character with a strong desire to rule over others has an ethically adequate object.

Stephen Greenblatt, Shakespeare and the Uses of Power, The New York Review of Books, April 12, 2007

This reminded me of Plato as Socrates in The Republic: (paraphrasing) “…the best leader will also least want to be the leader, and can be convinced to lead only because it is best for the society.” That’s not to imply that Shakespeare was a Platonist (no way, right?), or that his depictions of power were programmatic as The Republic is. But his education, what we know of it, was mostly in the classics, I believe. And I can’t resist the rampant speculation that he read the (pseudo)quoted section in Plato, and his mind, loving the paradoxes in the formulation, as well as the potential of its inverse, filed it away for later use or thought, perhaps just as background for his portraits of humans trying to govern.

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