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	<description>Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics</description>
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		<title>By: bicyclemark</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-3136</link>
		<dc:creator>bicyclemark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan --- Im a little behind on comment reading... glad to be able to help out the show and point to some excellent blogger/podcasters. looking forward to contributing more in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan &#8212; Im a little behind on comment reading&#8230; glad to be able to help out the show and point to some excellent blogger/podcasters. looking forward to contributing more in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2983</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had out Thanksgiving on Wednesday, leftovers on Thursday. Friday and Saturday feel like Sunday. Five Sundays in a row!

Last year we had Christmas at the end of January. With the door closed, you would never know the difference.

AAKleeman: way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had out Thanksgiving on Wednesday, leftovers on Thursday. Friday and Saturday feel like Sunday. Five Sundays in a row!</p>
<p>Last year we had Christmas at the end of January. With the door closed, you would never know the difference.</p>
<p>AAKleeman: way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: KenLac</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2972</link>
		<dc:creator>KenLac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris kept asking, &quot;What to drink? What to drink?&quot; Here&#039;s what to drink: &quot;Glogg Spiced
Red Wine: A mulled spice wine made from a Swedish recipe and served warmed, excellent for the holidays and winter.&quot; http://www.boydenvalley.com/redwines.html

For those who would turn up their noses at a spiced wine -- this is not your typical mulled wine in a pot w/ lemon and cloves floating in it. It&#039;s a real red, but the spices are going to cooperate with all the heavy food and get you to the pumpkin pie without any bumps. Boyden also makes a good cranberry wine. (Yeah, it&#039;s a plug but I&#039;m a fan, not a shill.)

I&#039;ve a friend who writes about wine, who (for a long time) had a theory that it&#039;s impossible to find a wine match for turkey. This year he&#039;s softened his position, and makes some reccomendatioins in his column, &quot;In Vino Veritas&quot;  http://www.invinoveritas.com/ftp/column/111105-turkey/111105-turkey.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris kept asking, &#8220;What to drink? What to drink?&#8221; Here&#8217;s what to drink: &#8220;Glogg Spiced<br />
Red Wine: A mulled spice wine made from a Swedish recipe and served warmed, excellent for the holidays and winter.&#8221; <a href="http://www.boydenvalley.com/redwines.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boydenvalley.com/redwines.html</a></p>
<p>For those who would turn up their noses at a spiced wine &#8212; this is not your typical mulled wine in a pot w/ lemon and cloves floating in it. It&#8217;s a real red, but the spices are going to cooperate with all the heavy food and get you to the pumpkin pie without any bumps. Boyden also makes a good cranberry wine. (Yeah, it&#8217;s a plug but I&#8217;m a fan, not a shill.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve a friend who writes about wine, who (for a long time) had a theory that it&#8217;s impossible to find a wine match for turkey. This year he&#8217;s softened his position, and makes some reccomendatioins in his column, &#8220;In Vino Veritas&#8221;  <a href="http://www.invinoveritas.com/ftp/column/111105-turkey/111105-turkey.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.invinoveritas.com/ftp/column/111105-turkey/111105-turkey.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: AAKleeman</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2966</link>
		<dc:creator>AAKleeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have Thanksgiving on Friday instead of Thursday!  That way, everyone can come (no one feels split obligations).  Also, since I need to work on Wednesday, I can use Thursday to cook in a very relaxed way, all day long!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have Thanksgiving on Friday instead of Thursday!  That way, everyone can come (no one feels split obligations).  Also, since I need to work on Wednesday, I can use Thursday to cook in a very relaxed way, all day long!</p>
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		<title>By: The Podchef Show</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2955</link>
		<dc:creator>The Podchef Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Open Source&lt;/strong&gt;

Christopher Lydon kindly mentions us in his Thanksgiving 2.0 show on Open Source. Thanks--much obliged. I have subscribe to the show--which I didn&#039;t know was a podcast. My bad. Unfortunately iTunes hasn&#039;t caught todays show yet--so I will hear it tom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Open Source</strong></p>
<p>Christopher Lydon kindly mentions us in his Thanksgiving 2.0 show on Open Source. Thanks&#8211;much obliged. I have subscribe to the show&#8211;which I didn&#8217;t know was a podcast. My bad. Unfortunately iTunes hasn&#8217;t caught todays show yet&#8211;so I will hear it tom&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bww</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2951</link>
		<dc:creator>bww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite recipe for holiday dessert has to be Cranberry Pudding.  This recipe came from my motherâ€™s family, and has been a part of Thanksgiving for as long as I can remember.

This is a traditional pudding (in the bread sense), and the key is how the cranberry and molasses flavor is offset by the sweet buttery cream sauce.

Pudding:
2 cups raw cranberries
1-1/2 cups flour
3/4 tsp. baking soda
pinch of salt
1/2 cup unsulphured molasses (is there any other kind)
1/3 cup boiling water

You need a sifter for the dry ingredients.  Mix everything together and spread into a bundt pan.  Steam in a large covered pot for one hour.

Sauce:
1 cup sugar
1 cup cream (not milk)
1/3 - 1/2 cup butter
1 tsp. vanilla

Melt butter and stir in ingredients on stovetop for 15 to 20 minutes over low heat.

Serve slices of warm pudding with generous portions of sauce.

Dare not to have seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite recipe for holiday dessert has to be Cranberry Pudding.  This recipe came from my motherâ€™s family, and has been a part of Thanksgiving for as long as I can remember.</p>
<p>This is a traditional pudding (in the bread sense), and the key is how the cranberry and molasses flavor is offset by the sweet buttery cream sauce.</p>
<p>Pudding:<br />
2 cups raw cranberries<br />
1-1/2 cups flour<br />
3/4 tsp. baking soda<br />
pinch of salt<br />
1/2 cup unsulphured molasses (is there any other kind)<br />
1/3 cup boiling water</p>
<p>You need a sifter for the dry ingredients.  Mix everything together and spread into a bundt pan.  Steam in a large covered pot for one hour.</p>
<p>Sauce:<br />
1 cup sugar<br />
1 cup cream (not milk)<br />
1/3 &#8211; 1/2 cup butter<br />
1 tsp. vanilla</p>
<p>Melt butter and stir in ingredients on stovetop for 15 to 20 minutes over low heat.</p>
<p>Serve slices of warm pudding with generous portions of sauce.</p>
<p>Dare not to have seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2949</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey bicyclemark, we took your suggestion, listened to podchef, cut down some audio and then fifteen minutes into our program iTunes screwed me with its new copy protection and kept on cutting the clip down to fifteen seconds.  So I couldn&#039;t steal it.  Or something.

Thanks for the tip.  Sorry we couldn&#039;t get it on the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey bicyclemark, we took your suggestion, listened to podchef, cut down some audio and then fifteen minutes into our program iTunes screwed me with its new copy protection and kept on cutting the clip down to fifteen seconds.  So I couldn&#8217;t steal it.  Or something.</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip.  Sorry we couldn&#8217;t get it on the air.</p>
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		<title>By: A little yellow bird</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2948</link>
		<dc:creator>A little yellow bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Robin (a fellow bird!):    Since I&#039;m not a cannibal, I too do not partake of the critters. Seriously, I am vegan but not narrow. I hate the torture and pollution of standard factory farms; but if people are omnivores, I don&#039;t mind sitting at the same table with &#039;em if they&#039;ve got free-range roast critter. Also, if a hunter brings home something wild, I&#039;ve got no problem with that--a wild turkey or boar is a vicious, nasty brute that begs to be shot. Tofurkey also deserves to be shot--and left to rot. There&#039;s so much else out there. I like The Onion&#039;s meat-substitute product-name suggestions: Mockwurst; I Can&#039;t Believe It&#039;s Not A Dead Animal!; Nauseages; Prosciuttofu; and my favorite: Tof**k You, Meat Lover!--a jab at self-righteous, holier-than-thou vegans who help turn people off to the idea.     Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Robin (a fellow bird!):    Since I&#8217;m not a cannibal, I too do not partake of the critters. Seriously, I am vegan but not narrow. I hate the torture and pollution of standard factory farms; but if people are omnivores, I don&#8217;t mind sitting at the same table with &#8216;em if they&#8217;ve got free-range roast critter. Also, if a hunter brings home something wild, I&#8217;ve got no problem with that&#8211;a wild turkey or boar is a vicious, nasty brute that begs to be shot. Tofurkey also deserves to be shot&#8211;and left to rot. There&#8217;s so much else out there. I like The Onion&#8217;s meat-substitute product-name suggestions: Mockwurst; I Can&#8217;t Believe It&#8217;s Not A Dead Animal!; Nauseages; Prosciuttofu; and my favorite: Tof**k You, Meat Lover!&#8211;a jab at self-righteous, holier-than-thou vegans who help turn people off to the idea.     Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2947</link>
		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanksgiving can be tolerable if you follow these simple precautions:

1.  When invited to a friend&#039;s house, be grateful but regretful, and say you&#039;re going to your family&#039;s.

2.  When invited to the family gathering, be grateful but regretful, and say you&#039;re going to a friend&#039;s.

3.  Stay home.

Now you&#039;re ready to cook what you really want for your feast.  I like turkey thighs, so I buy these, roast them with a Nantucket Rub of herbs and spices.  I make dear old Pepperidge Farm stuffing in a separate small cassarole.  I freeze old turkey bones, knawed, along with leftover veggie parings.  These I&#039;ve already cooked in a crockpot overnight, strained and chilled so I can lift off the fat in one chunk.  Gravy is shitake mushrooms, sauteed in butter, and mixed with this reduced stock.  Oh, yes, don&#039;t forget the &quot;round kind&quot; cranberry sauce.

This is course 1, eaten when ready.

After eating the turkey, you can start on the yam.  Cut a yam in wedges, turn over in olive oil, and cook in a very hot oven until crispy and caramelized. 

This is course 2, eaten when ready.

By now it&#039;s about 4-ish.  Time for a walk on the beach.  Be sure to put a scarf over your face so no one will recognize you and blow your cover.

Brussels sprouts are next.  Forget those stupid little X&#039;s in the stem.  Cut &#039;em in half.  Steam for about 20 minutes, then mash with butter and lots of coarse salt.

Course #3.

You can go on like this more or less indefinitely.

The next day, call around to your friends.  You&#039;ll no doubt find someone who hates dark meat and who has a slab of yummy pie just waiting for you.  Invite yourself over.

That&#039;s the best way to do Thanksgiving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanksgiving can be tolerable if you follow these simple precautions:</p>
<p>1.  When invited to a friend&#8217;s house, be grateful but regretful, and say you&#8217;re going to your family&#8217;s.</p>
<p>2.  When invited to the family gathering, be grateful but regretful, and say you&#8217;re going to a friend&#8217;s.</p>
<p>3.  Stay home.</p>
<p>Now you&#8217;re ready to cook what you really want for your feast.  I like turkey thighs, so I buy these, roast them with a Nantucket Rub of herbs and spices.  I make dear old Pepperidge Farm stuffing in a separate small cassarole.  I freeze old turkey bones, knawed, along with leftover veggie parings.  These I&#8217;ve already cooked in a crockpot overnight, strained and chilled so I can lift off the fat in one chunk.  Gravy is shitake mushrooms, sauteed in butter, and mixed with this reduced stock.  Oh, yes, don&#8217;t forget the &#8220;round kind&#8221; cranberry sauce.</p>
<p>This is course 1, eaten when ready.</p>
<p>After eating the turkey, you can start on the yam.  Cut a yam in wedges, turn over in olive oil, and cook in a very hot oven until crispy and caramelized. </p>
<p>This is course 2, eaten when ready.</p>
<p>By now it&#8217;s about 4-ish.  Time for a walk on the beach.  Be sure to put a scarf over your face so no one will recognize you and blow your cover.</p>
<p>Brussels sprouts are next.  Forget those stupid little X&#8217;s in the stem.  Cut &#8216;em in half.  Steam for about 20 minutes, then mash with butter and lots of coarse salt.</p>
<p>Course #3.</p>
<p>You can go on like this more or less indefinitely.</p>
<p>The next day, call around to your friends.  You&#8217;ll no doubt find someone who hates dark meat and who has a slab of yummy pie just waiting for you.  Invite yourself over.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the best way to do Thanksgiving.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2946</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, watch it with the tofurkey bashing! For those of us who have chosen not to eat meat, the tofurkey is a chance for us to participate in holiday traditions without feeling totally alienated. ( I&#039;m gagging a little bit hearing Mr. Meat-henge describing stuffing bacon into the turkey.) Both of my father&#039;s brothers and their wives and their combined six children are all vegetarian, so when we get together the non-meat dishes are in full effect. My favorite is my mom&#039;s stuffing, which always starts with roasted chestnuts (that&#039;s my dad&#039;s main job other than staying out of the way), carrots, onions, spinach, and crumbled up whole wheat bread. 

Also: did you know that the president traditionally spares one lucky turkey in a holiday presidential pardon? There&#039;s a political cartoon with Scooter Libby dressed as a turkey begging to be drawn here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, watch it with the tofurkey bashing! For those of us who have chosen not to eat meat, the tofurkey is a chance for us to participate in holiday traditions without feeling totally alienated. ( I&#8217;m gagging a little bit hearing Mr. Meat-henge describing stuffing bacon into the turkey.) Both of my father&#8217;s brothers and their wives and their combined six children are all vegetarian, so when we get together the non-meat dishes are in full effect. My favorite is my mom&#8217;s stuffing, which always starts with roasted chestnuts (that&#8217;s my dad&#8217;s main job other than staying out of the way), carrots, onions, spinach, and crumbled up whole wheat bread. </p>
<p>Also: did you know that the president traditionally spares one lucky turkey in a holiday presidential pardon? There&#8217;s a political cartoon with Scooter Libby dressed as a turkey begging to be drawn here.</p>
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		<title>By: Chelsea</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2939</link>
		<dc:creator>Chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Megwoo,

Thanks for suggesting the Accidental Hedonist.  

I spoke with her yesterday.  She&#039;ll be  eating Thanksgiving dinner at a favorite restaurant.  For this show we&#039;ve decided to talk to bloggers who will be doing a lot of Thanksgiving cooking.  
We&#039;ll be cheking in with her, however, for future food shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Megwoo,</p>
<p>Thanks for suggesting the Accidental Hedonist.  </p>
<p>I spoke with her yesterday.  She&#8217;ll be  eating Thanksgiving dinner at a favorite restaurant.  For this show we&#8217;ve decided to talk to bloggers who will be doing a lot of Thanksgiving cooking.<br />
We&#8217;ll be cheking in with her, however, for future food shows.</p>
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		<title>By: benchcoat</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2937</link>
		<dc:creator>benchcoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>current favorite food blog: http://www.egullet.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>current favorite food blog: <a href="http://www.egullet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.egullet.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: bicyclemark</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2934</link>
		<dc:creator>bicyclemark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the hardest working chefs on the podosphere.... the &lt;a href=&quot;http://podchef.motime.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Podchef&lt;/a&gt;

And for the Gluten Free Vegans out there, no one beats the &lt;a href=&quot;http://glutenfreegirl.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gluten Free Girl&lt;/a&gt;

Those are my absolute favs for food..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the hardest working chefs on the podosphere&#8230;. the <a href="http://podchef.motime.com/" rel="nofollow">Podchef</a></p>
<p>And for the Gluten Free Vegans out there, no one beats the <a href="http://glutenfreegirl.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Gluten Free Girl</a></p>
<p>Those are my absolute favs for food..</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2904</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smtcapecod: Make this pie  and have it with a glass of wine shared with your loved ones and you will forget about anthropoligists/sociologists/gastronmea about customs and foods in other cultures, interpersonal relations etc.

Cheers, L&#039; Chaim .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smtcapecod: Make this pie  and have it with a glass of wine shared with your loved ones and you will forget about anthropoligists/sociologists/gastronmea about customs and foods in other cultures, interpersonal relations etc.</p>
<p>Cheers, L&#8217; Chaim &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: benchcoat</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2897</link>
		<dc:creator>benchcoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big fan of butterflying the bird--you lose the nice presentation if you like carving at the table, but you shave about an hour off your cook time, don&#039;t end up with part of the turkey overcooked, and you get to both tear out the spine with a cleaver and whack the turkey with a mallet (which can be pretty cathartic, depending on who&#039;s coming to dinner).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of butterflying the bird&#8211;you lose the nice presentation if you like carving at the table, but you shave about an hour off your cook time, don&#8217;t end up with part of the turkey overcooked, and you get to both tear out the spine with a cleaver and whack the turkey with a mallet (which can be pretty cathartic, depending on who&#8217;s coming to dinner).</p>
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		<title>By: megwoo</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2882</link>
		<dc:creator>megwoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Kate Hopkins of Accidental Hedonist would be an excellent person to speak with for this show:

http://www.accidentalhedonist.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kate Hopkins of Accidental Hedonist would be an excellent person to speak with for this show:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.accidentalhedonist.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.accidentalhedonist.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: smtcapecod</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/thanksgiving-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2861</link>
		<dc:creator>smtcapecod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must be getting too dour as I get older....When i saw a dedicated Thanksgiving show, my first presumtion was that it must be a thoughtful piece on the family issues and interpersonal relations that come to the forefront on this holiday.  Ground that&#039;s been trod before in Hollywood, I suppose.  But recipes??? How about trying to find some anthropologists/sociologists/gastronomea about customs and foods in similar holidays in other cultures and nations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must be getting too dour as I get older&#8230;.When i saw a dedicated Thanksgiving show, my first presumtion was that it must be a thoughtful piece on the family issues and interpersonal relations that come to the forefront on this holiday.  Ground that&#8217;s been trod before in Hollywood, I suppose.  But recipes??? How about trying to find some anthropologists/sociologists/gastronomea about customs and foods in similar holidays in other cultures and nations?</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an interesting web site to explore: http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article.php?id=149

My niece was shelling pecans ( from her backyard tree in the Golan) and needed a recipe for pecan pie when she stumbled into this site and told me about it. Then I noticed they have all these Thanksgiving recipes up. Coincidentally a good friend in Maine called and told me she is making dinner for 9.5 people and so I quizzed her about her menu. The green beans peaked my interest.  She said she HAD to make them the way K--- has eaten them on this holiday since he was a kid. This is made with canned green beans, canned mushroom soup and ( canned?) french fried onions. &quot;Oh yuk&quot; I am thinking. But lo and behold there the recipe is on  cookingforengineers&#039; Thanksgiving recipes  here: http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article.php?id=9

What I would do is re-engineer the whole thing starting with fresh green beans, fresh mushrooms, cream etc.  It might be good.  I&#039;ll make mine with butter and lemon.

But I bet there are a lot of folks out there who just HAVE to HAVE something every Thanksgiving or it wouldn&#039;t be Thanskgiving.

I wish you all a good one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting web site to explore: <a href="http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article.php?id=149" rel="nofollow">http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article.php?id=149</a></p>
<p>My niece was shelling pecans ( from her backyard tree in the Golan) and needed a recipe for pecan pie when she stumbled into this site and told me about it. Then I noticed they have all these Thanksgiving recipes up. Coincidentally a good friend in Maine called and told me she is making dinner for 9.5 people and so I quizzed her about her menu. The green beans peaked my interest.  She said she HAD to make them the way K&#8212; has eaten them on this holiday since he was a kid. This is made with canned green beans, canned mushroom soup and ( canned?) french fried onions. &#8220;Oh yuk&#8221; I am thinking. But lo and behold there the recipe is on  cookingforengineers&#8217; Thanksgiving recipes  here: <a href="http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article.php?id=9" rel="nofollow">http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article.php?id=9</a></p>
<p>What I would do is re-engineer the whole thing starting with fresh green beans, fresh mushrooms, cream etc.  It might be good.  I&#8217;ll make mine with butter and lemon.</p>
<p>But I bet there are a lot of folks out there who just HAVE to HAVE something every Thanksgiving or it wouldn&#8217;t be Thanskgiving.</p>
<p>I wish you all a good one!</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(excerpt from a  New York Times article about pastry chef Pichot Ong,  November 17th 2004 by Melissa Clark)

 &quot;Kabocha is a staple in Asian cuisine,&quot; he continued. &quot;You can fry it as tempura, braise it with soy sauce, bake it in a casserole with pork belly, steam it with chicken stock, cube it and add it to sweet and savory soups.&quot;

&quot;If you&#039;re a pastry chef working in New York, you can also use it in an Asian-fusion version of the holiday&#039;s ubiquitous pie. In Mr. Ong&#039;s kitchen, that means a dense, spicy cheesecakelike confection with a lime-scented graham cracker crust, served with ginger butterscotch sauce.

&quot;Kabocha is similar to pumpkin but I prefer it in desserts,&quot; he said. &quot;The flesh is softer, more like custard, and has a mellow flavor. It also has a better color. It&#039;s brighter orange when cooked, not as brown.&quot;

This sounded intriguing but I could not find that squash so I substituted an organically grown sugar pumpkin with great results. This pie is &quot;oh so 2004&quot; but it was worth repeating.

November 17, 2004

Recipe: Kabocha Squash Pie

Adapted from Pichet Ong

Time: About 2 1/2 hours

For the filling:
 1 medium kabocha squash, about 3 pounds
 10 ounces (1 1/3 cups) cream cheese, at room temperature
 1 cup sugar
 1 1/2 teaspoons ground cinnamon
 1 teaspoon ground ginger
  3/8 teaspoon freshly ground nutmeg (about  1/4 of a nutmeg)
  1/2 teaspoon salt
 1 1/2 tablespoons brandy
 2 eggs at room temperature

For the crust:
  3/8 cup (2 ounces) walnuts
  1/2 cup, packed, light brown sugar
  3/8 cup graham cracker crumbs (about 7 crackers)
 Grated zest of 1 lime
  3/8 teaspoon ground cinnamon
  1/8 teaspoon ground ginger
  3/8 teaspoon salt
  1/4 cup (2 ounces) unsalted butter, melted
 CrÃ¨me fraÃ®che, for serving (optional)
 Ginger butterscotch sauce, for serving (see recipe).

1. For pie filling, bring an inch of water to a boil in a large covered pot fitted with a steamer basket or rack. Put in squash, cover and steam, replenishing water as needed, until fork tender, about 1 hour. Turn squash over halfway through steaming. Set squash aside until cool enough to handle.

2. Heat oven to 325 degrees. For crust, place walnuts on a baking tray, and toast in oven, stirring once or twice, until fragrant, about 15 minutes. Let cool. Reduce oven temperature to 300 degrees.

3. In a food processor, combine walnuts with a few tablespoons brown sugar and pulse a few times, until nuts are coarsely ground. In a large bowl, whisk nuts with graham cracker crumbs, remaining brown sugar, lime zest, spices and salt. Pour melted butter over this mixture, and mix with your fingers until butter is distributed. Press evenly into a 10-inch glass pie plate. Bake crust until lightly browned, about 12 minutes, then set aside. Keep oven at 300 degrees.

4. When squash is cool, cut it in half and scoop out seeds and pulp. Scoop squash flesh into a measuring cup until you have 2 1/2 cups.

5. In a food processor, process cream cheese with sugar, spices and salt until light and smooth. Scrape down bowl, add squash and process until smooth. Mix in brandy and then eggs, one at a time. Finish mixing with a rubber spatula.

6. Place pie plate on a baking sheet and scrape filling into crust. Bake until just set in center, about 1 hour. Let cool before serving, topped with crÃ¨me fraÃ®che and drizzled with butterscotch sauce.

Yield: 8 servings.



Recipe: Ginger Butterscotch Sauce

Adapted from Pichet Ong

Time: 25 minutes plus 30 minutes&#039; cooling

1 pound dark brown sugar 
 2 1/2 ounces (about 4 inches) fresh ginger root, peeled and sliced into coins 
 1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise, pulp scraped 
 10 tablespoons (5 ounces) unsalted butter, cubed 
 2 cups heavy cream 
  3/8 teaspoon salt.

 1. Place sugar, ginger and vanilla pod and pulp in a heavy pot set over medium heat. Cook, stirring occasionally, until sugar is molten and fragrant with ginger and vanilla, about 8 minutes. (It won&#039;t melt entirely but will be somewhat crumbly.) Add butter (stand back, it will foam up), and stir until melted and smooth, about 2 minutes.

2. Pour cream and salt into pot, stirring, and bring to a simmer. Let sauce bubble until thickened, about 8 minutes. Let cool for at least  1/2 hour, then strain out ginger and vanilla pod. Warm sauce before serving. This sauce will keep for up to 2 weeks in refrigerator.

 Yield: 3 1/2 cups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(excerpt from a  New York Times article about pastry chef Pichot Ong,  November 17th 2004 by Melissa Clark)</p>
<p> &#8220;Kabocha is a staple in Asian cuisine,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;You can fry it as tempura, braise it with soy sauce, bake it in a casserole with pork belly, steam it with chicken stock, cube it and add it to sweet and savory soups.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re a pastry chef working in New York, you can also use it in an Asian-fusion version of the holiday&#8217;s ubiquitous pie. In Mr. Ong&#8217;s kitchen, that means a dense, spicy cheesecakelike confection with a lime-scented graham cracker crust, served with ginger butterscotch sauce.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kabocha is similar to pumpkin but I prefer it in desserts,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The flesh is softer, more like custard, and has a mellow flavor. It also has a better color. It&#8217;s brighter orange when cooked, not as brown.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sounded intriguing but I could not find that squash so I substituted an organically grown sugar pumpkin with great results. This pie is &#8220;oh so 2004&#8243; but it was worth repeating.</p>
<p>November 17, 2004</p>
<p>Recipe: Kabocha Squash Pie</p>
<p>Adapted from Pichet Ong</p>
<p>Time: About 2 1/2 hours</p>
<p>For the filling:<br />
 1 medium kabocha squash, about 3 pounds<br />
 10 ounces (1 1/3 cups) cream cheese, at room temperature<br />
 1 cup sugar<br />
 1 1/2 teaspoons ground cinnamon<br />
 1 teaspoon ground ginger<br />
  3/8 teaspoon freshly ground nutmeg (about  1/4 of a nutmeg)<br />
  1/2 teaspoon salt<br />
 1 1/2 tablespoons brandy<br />
 2 eggs at room temperature</p>
<p>For the crust:<br />
  3/8 cup (2 ounces) walnuts<br />
  1/2 cup, packed, light brown sugar<br />
  3/8 cup graham cracker crumbs (about 7 crackers)<br />
 Grated zest of 1 lime<br />
  3/8 teaspoon ground cinnamon<br />
  1/8 teaspoon ground ginger<br />
  3/8 teaspoon salt<br />
  1/4 cup (2 ounces) unsalted butter, melted<br />
 CrÃ¨me fraÃ®che, for serving (optional)<br />
 Ginger butterscotch sauce, for serving (see recipe).</p>
<p>1. For pie filling, bring an inch of water to a boil in a large covered pot fitted with a steamer basket or rack. Put in squash, cover and steam, replenishing water as needed, until fork tender, about 1 hour. Turn squash over halfway through steaming. Set squash aside until cool enough to handle.</p>
<p>2. Heat oven to 325 degrees. For crust, place walnuts on a baking tray, and toast in oven, stirring once or twice, until fragrant, about 15 minutes. Let cool. Reduce oven temperature to 300 degrees.</p>
<p>3. In a food processor, combine walnuts with a few tablespoons brown sugar and pulse a few times, until nuts are coarsely ground. In a large bowl, whisk nuts with graham cracker crumbs, remaining brown sugar, lime zest, spices and salt. Pour melted butter over this mixture, and mix with your fingers until butter is distributed. Press evenly into a 10-inch glass pie plate. Bake crust until lightly browned, about 12 minutes, then set aside. Keep oven at 300 degrees.</p>
<p>4. When squash is cool, cut it in half and scoop out seeds and pulp. Scoop squash flesh into a measuring cup until you have 2 1/2 cups.</p>
<p>5. In a food processor, process cream cheese with sugar, spices and salt until light and smooth. Scrape down bowl, add squash and process until smooth. Mix in brandy and then eggs, one at a time. Finish mixing with a rubber spatula.</p>
<p>6. Place pie plate on a baking sheet and scrape filling into crust. Bake until just set in center, about 1 hour. Let cool before serving, topped with crÃ¨me fraÃ®che and drizzled with butterscotch sauce.</p>
<p>Yield: 8 servings.</p>
<p>Recipe: Ginger Butterscotch Sauce</p>
<p>Adapted from Pichet Ong</p>
<p>Time: 25 minutes plus 30 minutes&#8217; cooling</p>
<p>1 pound dark brown sugar<br />
 2 1/2 ounces (about 4 inches) fresh ginger root, peeled and sliced into coins<br />
 1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise, pulp scraped<br />
 10 tablespoons (5 ounces) unsalted butter, cubed<br />
 2 cups heavy cream<br />
  3/8 teaspoon salt.</p>
<p> 1. Place sugar, ginger and vanilla pod and pulp in a heavy pot set over medium heat. Cook, stirring occasionally, until sugar is molten and fragrant with ginger and vanilla, about 8 minutes. (It won&#8217;t melt entirely but will be somewhat crumbly.) Add butter (stand back, it will foam up), and stir until melted and smooth, about 2 minutes.</p>
<p>2. Pour cream and salt into pot, stirring, and bring to a simmer. Let sauce bubble until thickened, about 8 minutes. Let cool for at least  1/2 hour, then strain out ginger and vanilla pod. Warm sauce before serving. This sauce will keep for up to 2 weeks in refrigerator.</p>
<p> Yield: 3 1/2 cups.</p>
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