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	<description>Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics</description>
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		<title>By: sidewalker</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-159888</link>
		<dc:creator>sidewalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! What a love-fest. 

The really exceptional thing about America is its ideological belief in its exceptionally exceptional exception and how easily it erases history so it can mirror mirror on the wall and see itself as a force for good in the world. 

A country where the top 10% of the people have 70% of the wealth and the top 1% almost 40%. Now that is exceptional, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! What a love-fest. </p>
<p>The really exceptional thing about America is its ideological belief in its exceptionally exceptional exception and how easily it erases history so it can mirror mirror on the wall and see itself as a force for good in the world. </p>
<p>A country where the top 10% of the people have 70% of the wealth and the top 1% almost 40%. Now that is exceptional, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: OliverCranglesParrot</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-159356</link>
		<dc:creator>OliverCranglesParrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;America...just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.&quot;  -- Hunter S. Thompson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;America&#8230;just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.&#8221;  &#8212; Hunter S. Thompson</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-156843</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I download to my desktop from here and then open itunes and transfer it to itunes. I don&#039;t know if that makes a difference but I don&#039;t have a problem.  You might try one click on the link above and just listen from here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I download to my desktop from here and then open itunes and transfer it to itunes. I don&#8217;t know if that makes a difference but I don&#8217;t have a problem.  You might try one click on the link above and just listen from here.</p>
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		<title>By: huff</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-156317</link>
		<dc:creator>huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anybody having a problem getting the podcast to dload in iTunes??  Keeps timing out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anybody having a problem getting the podcast to dload in iTunes??  Keeps timing out.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-155590</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I read the others here and right out of the gate, the American revolution was not bloodless as Widner said. I was surprised.

This was a good conversation;just the right amount of &quot;hmmm&quot;  and push-back.

I disagree that McCain and Obama have that much similarity. Perhaps the words, but that may be all. And then McCain has been parroting Obama. There is quite a choice between one and the other even with the disappointment on Obama&#039;s dissembling and surprising postions on issues such as guns and FISA. McCain is as dull as they come &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; eloquent, not above being mean-spirited.

I especially appreciated Chris&#039;s worry about  whether we are examining  fully enough, deeply enough what went wrong these last years and whether recovery should mean back to domination and unilateralism. But also I think Widner had a point, or was leading to a point that the Europeans post war are leaving dire situations in the world (that may call for military action) to us with the luxury of knowing that we would eventually act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I read the others here and right out of the gate, the American revolution was not bloodless as Widner said. I was surprised.</p>
<p>This was a good conversation;just the right amount of &#8220;hmmm&#8221;  and push-back.</p>
<p>I disagree that McCain and Obama have that much similarity. Perhaps the words, but that may be all. And then McCain has been parroting Obama. There is quite a choice between one and the other even with the disappointment on Obama&#8217;s dissembling and surprising postions on issues such as guns and FISA. McCain is as dull as they come <i>not</i> eloquent, not above being mean-spirited.</p>
<p>I especially appreciated Chris&#8217;s worry about  whether we are examining  fully enough, deeply enough what went wrong these last years and whether recovery should mean back to domination and unilateralism. But also I think Widner had a point, or was leading to a point that the Europeans post war are leaving dire situations in the world (that may call for military action) to us with the luxury of knowing that we would eventually act.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenkoine</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-155480</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenkoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Briefly, an apology; to ROS; for changing the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Briefly, an apology; to ROS; for changing the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Eenusch</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-155425</link>
		<dc:creator>Eenusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama may be trying to â€œsoften the exceptionalismâ€ to use Chrisâ€™ phrase, but itâ€™s interesting that the very nature of his world tour, is in itself, an example of American exceptionalism.

Look at Berlin. Could one imagine a German candidate for Chancellor, coming to New York, addressing a crowd of 200,000 in Central Parkâ€¦in GERMAN!

Impossible!!

The fact that only an American could get away with this, and one who is only a candidate for the presidency at that, is proof enough that America is no ordinary nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama may be trying to â€œsoften the exceptionalismâ€ to use Chrisâ€™ phrase, but itâ€™s interesting that the very nature of his world tour, is in itself, an example of American exceptionalism.</p>
<p>Look at Berlin. Could one imagine a German candidate for Chancellor, coming to New York, addressing a crowd of 200,000 in Central Parkâ€¦in GERMAN!</p>
<p>Impossible!!</p>
<p>The fact that only an American could get away with this, and one who is only a candidate for the presidency at that, is proof enough that America is no ordinary nation.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-155288</link>
		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the following from the wiki on Tocqueville (speaking of the first arrivals to this land):

&quot;Any and all who arrived could own their own land and cultivate an independent life. Sparse elites and a number of landed aristocrats existed, but, according to Tocqueville, these few stood no chance against the rapidly developing values bred by such vast land ownership. With such an open society, layered with so much opportunity, men of all sorts began working their way up in the world: industriousness became a dominant ethic, and &quot;middling&quot; values began taking root.&quot;

I think American exceptionalism stems from that beginning.  

Obama is the embodiment of that line &quot;men of all sorts.&quot;  

American&#039;s feel in every fiber of our being that we are the only country where &quot;men of all sorts&quot; can create their own destiny.  And the men/women who have risen in this land, tend to share some common traits: pugnacity, self-reliance, strong faith, and above all, enthusiasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the following from the wiki on Tocqueville (speaking of the first arrivals to this land):</p>
<p>&#8220;Any and all who arrived could own their own land and cultivate an independent life. Sparse elites and a number of landed aristocrats existed, but, according to Tocqueville, these few stood no chance against the rapidly developing values bred by such vast land ownership. With such an open society, layered with so much opportunity, men of all sorts began working their way up in the world: industriousness became a dominant ethic, and &#8220;middling&#8221; values began taking root.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think American exceptionalism stems from that beginning.  </p>
<p>Obama is the embodiment of that line &#8220;men of all sorts.&#8221;  </p>
<p>American&#8217;s feel in every fiber of our being that we are the only country where &#8220;men of all sorts&#8221; can create their own destiny.  And the men/women who have risen in this land, tend to share some common traits: pugnacity, self-reliance, strong faith, and above all, enthusiasm.</p>
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		<title>By: samizdat</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-154699</link>
		<dc:creator>samizdat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey i wouldn&#039;t mind being &quot;fat &amp; lazy&quot; instead of working myself to death for meager wages... maybe i&#039;ll move to Europe..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey i wouldn&#8217;t mind being &#8220;fat &amp; lazy&#8221; instead of working myself to death for meager wages&#8230; maybe i&#8217;ll move to Europe..</p>
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		<title>By: hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad Chris took exception to Widmer&#039;s many egregious comments on the American exception. &quot;Half-kidding&quot; not half good enough, with its blithe endorsement of war as a liberal panacea Europeans are simply too rich and lazy to embrace. Really. Una vera brutta figura.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad Chris took exception to Widmer&#8217;s many egregious comments on the American exception. &#8220;Half-kidding&#8221; not half good enough, with its blithe endorsement of war as a liberal panacea Europeans are simply too rich and lazy to embrace. Really. Una vera brutta figura.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenkoine</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-154555</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenkoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have followed the dramatic resurrection narrative, demarconia, but it is hard to swallow ROS pretending to be something it&#039;s not any longer; if there are ongoing problems, they can be addressed rather than hidden in someone&#039;s institutional closet.  There was a good faith effort to reach out and communicate with the Open Source community around funding issues et al, and then it seems like &#039;everything else&#039; fell off a cliff, leaving Chris dangling by one hand, just able to produce a weekly podcast with the other.

Here, Chris, a metaphor you might be able to appreciate: what is the audio equivalent to transparency?  What is the current status of the all-out, grand, no-holds-barred ROS experiment?  Is it really just you there, in the shade of the Watson Institute at Brown?  Perhaps, as demarconia suggests, a weekly podcast from you is &#039;better than nothing&#039;, but is that all you&#039;re aiming at?  My objection is to the sterility of denial.  I want to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have followed the dramatic resurrection narrative, demarconia, but it is hard to swallow ROS pretending to be something it&#8217;s not any longer; if there are ongoing problems, they can be addressed rather than hidden in someone&#8217;s institutional closet.  There was a good faith effort to reach out and communicate with the Open Source community around funding issues et al, and then it seems like &#8216;everything else&#8217; fell off a cliff, leaving Chris dangling by one hand, just able to produce a weekly podcast with the other.</p>
<p>Here, Chris, a metaphor you might be able to appreciate: what is the audio equivalent to transparency?  What is the current status of the all-out, grand, no-holds-barred ROS experiment?  Is it really just you there, in the shade of the Watson Institute at Brown?  Perhaps, as demarconia suggests, a weekly podcast from you is &#8216;better than nothing&#8217;, but is that all you&#8217;re aiming at?  My objection is to the sterility of denial.  I want to help.</p>
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		<title>By: archylgp</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-154474</link>
		<dc:creator>archylgp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I rarely post, I have taken a lot from Open Source over the last several years and I still find it to be a valuable source of intellectual material.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I rarely post, I have taken a lot from Open Source over the last several years and I still find it to be a valuable source of intellectual material.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: demarconia</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-154420</link>
		<dc:creator>demarconia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, since you seemed to have missed the memo, citizenkoine, open source is back from the grave due to lack of funding. It&#039;s not what it once was, but it&#039;s better than nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, since you seemed to have missed the memo, citizenkoine, open source is back from the grave due to lack of funding. It&#8217;s not what it once was, but it&#8217;s better than nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: demarconia</title>
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		<dc:creator>demarconia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link seems to be broken, but it&#039;s just a matter of extra text on the front end. This one works:

http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Watson_Institute/Open_Source/RadioOpenSource-Ted_Widmer.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link seems to be broken, but it&#8217;s just a matter of extra text on the front end. This one works:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Watson_Institute/Open_Source/RadioOpenSource-Ted_Widmer.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Watson_Institute/Open_Source/RadioOpenSource-Ted_Widmer.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: citizenkoine</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-154406</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenkoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or is Open Source broken?  Lydon, have you got any production assistance at all?  Your website is barely up-to-date.  What is worse, the trickle of traffic you do have consists 100% of post-recording commentary - not, as is the stated mission of the site, a blogging community which generates a podcast.  What gives?  Why isn&#039;t there discussion of audience-suggested topics?  Why nothing &#039;Warming Up&#039;?  The impression is that you are, Oz-like, trying to maintain &#039;the global-conversation-thing&#039;, but alone, from behind a web-site/curtain.

You need help.  As part of Brown U. it shouldn&#039;t be this difficult to get production interns.  Do you still have a producer?  Mary hasn&#039;t made herself felt since May of last year.  Get help.  Reach out, Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is Open Source broken?  Lydon, have you got any production assistance at all?  Your website is barely up-to-date.  What is worse, the trickle of traffic you do have consists 100% of post-recording commentary &#8211; not, as is the stated mission of the site, a blogging community which generates a podcast.  What gives?  Why isn&#8217;t there discussion of audience-suggested topics?  Why nothing &#8216;Warming Up&#8217;?  The impression is that you are, Oz-like, trying to maintain &#8216;the global-conversation-thing&#8217;, but alone, from behind a web-site/curtain.</p>
<p>You need help.  As part of Brown U. it shouldn&#8217;t be this difficult to get production interns.  Do you still have a producer?  Mary hasn&#8217;t made herself felt since May of last year.  Get help.  Reach out, Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: RC32</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-american-exception-again/comment-page-1/#comment-154199</link>
		<dc:creator>RC32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A conversation with another Democrat.Gotta love the political diversity Open source brings us. Oh and another topic that revolves around president Obama,who would have guessed.What a suprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A conversation with another Democrat.Gotta love the political diversity Open source brings us. Oh and another topic that revolves around president Obama,who would have guessed.What a suprise.</p>
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