Comments on: The Dark Pages: An hour of radio dedicated to the graphic novel http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:09:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Matt http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-101322 Matt Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:36:15 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-101322 The presenter really had no idea what he was asking. It was really frustrating that two wonderful artists were not able to give more of themselves, simply because the presenter didn't understand what they were about. He couldn't even remember what Black Hole was called at one point! I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but why get someone like that to interview them? Thankfully some of the phone-in questions were intelligent. I imagine the whole interview was very painful for Ware and Burns. The presenter really had no idea what he was asking. It was really frustrating that two wonderful artists were not able to give more of themselves, simply because the presenter didn’t understand what they were about. He couldn’t even remember what Black Hole was called at one point! I’m sure he’s a really nice guy, but why get someone like that to interview them? Thankfully some of the phone-in questions were intelligent. I imagine the whole interview was very painful for Ware and Burns.

]]> By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » Jan. 9, 2009: Sam Zittle’s crucifixion machine http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66258 Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » Jan. 9, 2009: Sam Zittle’s crucifixion machine Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:32:29 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66258 [...] in October, Chris Ware and Charles Burns were guests on the radio program, Open Source, where they discuss graphic novels [...] [...] in October, Chris Ware and Charles Burns were guests on the radio program, Open Source, where they discuss graphic novels [...]

]]> By: dark pages http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66257 dark pages Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:55:38 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66257 [...] entury.com/myspace-layouts/dark/2/Comments on: The Dark Pages: An hour of radio dedicated to the ...http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/with Christopher LydonMon, 05 May 2008 02:33:00 +0000htt [...] [...] entury.com/myspace-layouts/dark/2/Comments on: The Dark Pages: An hour of radio dedicated to the …http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/with Christopher LydonMon, 05 May 2008 02:33:00 +0000htt [...]

]]> By: AUSTIN KLEON » Blog Archive » BLACK HOLE http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66256 AUSTIN KLEON » Blog Archive » BLACK HOLE Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:12:47 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66256 [...] s, some even grow second mouths. I decided to pick it up after listening to a pretty good hour long interview with Burns and [...] [...] s, some even grow second mouths. I decided to pick it up after listening to a pretty good hour long interview with Burns and [...]

]]> By: infogluttony » comics in the media http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66255 infogluttony » comics in the media Sun, 04 Dec 2005 06:50:29 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66255 [...] ve come of age, indeed, but journalism about graphic novels is still kidstuff. next up is a public radio interview with chris ware and charl [...] [...] ve come of age, indeed, but journalism about graphic novels is still kidstuff. next up is a public radio interview with chris ware and charl [...]

]]> By: Blog Mundo Fantasma » Arquivo do Blog » A arte da melancolia + http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66254 Blog Mundo Fantasma » Arquivo do Blog » A arte da melancolia + Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:33:04 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66254 [...] lustradora soviética Com banda desenhada publicada na Oni Press e Image. Charles Burns e Chris Ware na rádio Conversa na R [...] [...] lustradora soviética Com banda desenhada publicada na Oni Press e Image. Charles Burns e Chris Ware na rádio Conversa na R [...]

]]> By: froginthewell http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66253 froginthewell Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:40:42 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66253 I enjoyed the show, but I have to agree with benchcoat on the narrow focus of the show. While the most intellectually stimulating comics (I too cringe at the phrase "Graphic Novel") are often of the creator-owned variety, A couple of years ago my brother, and aspiring comic artist, re-introduced me to the superhero comics of Marvel and DC. I was surprised by their complex approach to what I remembered as simple punch-em-up superhero storylines. I think a whole show could be devoted to the changing role of the "superhero" comic. Since Frank Miller, now re-popularized as the creator of Sin City, re-approached Batman as an aging vigilante in the Eighties with "The Dark Night Returns" and Allen More explored the psychology behind the superhero archetypes in "The Watchmen" the superhero genre has undergone something of a shift toward the introspective. I think Professor Jenkins suggested as much briefly in the show. The industry itself seems to be struggling with fascinating issues surrounding their own status as artists, as well as the seeming contradiction of trying to write adult stories for a medium the world considers more appropriate for children. In addition to benchcoats list of admirable titles I would add "Powers" by Brian Michael Bendis, which tells a noir police story in a world of superheros, On a different note it is good to hear Chris' voice again. I was a devoted listener of the Connection in High School and I have a deep association between the sound of his voice and the period of my own intellectual development. Know I listen to the show via the podcast from Beijing, and it is a vital touchstone for me with world on that side of the Pacific. I enjoyed the show, but I have to agree with benchcoat on the narrow focus of the show. While the most intellectually stimulating comics (I too cringe at the phrase “Graphic Novel”) are often of the creator-owned variety, A couple of years ago my brother, and aspiring comic artist, re-introduced me to the superhero comics of Marvel and DC. I was surprised by their complex approach to what I remembered as simple punch-em-up superhero storylines.

I think a whole show could be devoted to the changing role of the “superhero” comic. Since Frank Miller, now re-popularized as the creator of Sin City, re-approached Batman as an aging vigilante in the Eighties with “The Dark Night Returns” and Allen More explored the psychology behind the superhero archetypes in “The Watchmen” the superhero genre has undergone something of a shift toward the introspective. I think Professor Jenkins suggested as much briefly in the show. The industry itself seems to be struggling with fascinating issues surrounding their own status as artists, as well as the seeming contradiction of trying to write adult stories for a medium the world considers more appropriate for children.

In addition to benchcoats list of admirable titles I would add “Powers” by Brian Michael Bendis, which tells a noir police story in a world of superheros,

On a different note it is good to hear Chris’ voice again. I was a devoted listener of the Connection in High School and I have a deep association between the sound of his voice and the period of my own intellectual development. Know I listen to the show via the podcast from Beijing, and it is a vital touchstone for me with world on that side of the Pacific.

]]> By: Drawn! The Illustration Blog » Blog Archive » Burns and Ware on the Road (and the Radio) http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66252 Drawn! The Illustration Blog » Blog Archive » Burns and Ware on the Road (and the Radio) Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:28:42 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66252 [...] mbridge, MA. Finally, you can also listen to a great radio interview with the two over at Open Source. I haven’t listened to the whol [...] [...] mbridge, MA. Finally, you can also listen to a great radio interview with the two over at Open Source. I haven’t listened to the whol [...]

]]> By: benchcoat http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66251 benchcoat Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:07:08 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66251 well, I've got some critiques--but first, kudos to an generally good show. and an apology for my first post here being mostly negative. now, on to the critiques: 1. the show's focus was way too narrow. I love the work of both Chris Ware and Charles Burns, but while financially troubled, comics are a diverse and vibrant medium. I would to hear a follow up show that includes Jessica Abel's first person journalism, Jay Hosler's books on Darwin and bees, Alan Moore's spiritual musings in Promethea, the adventurous work of Grant Morrison such as We3, the Filth, and Vimanarama, and the work of many great Xeric Award winners such as Rhode Montijo's Pablo's Inferno or Action Philosopher's by Ryan Dunleavy and Fred Van Lente. 2. the show also had too much focus on writer/artist creators. comics are very often a collaborative medium--I would love to hear how the creative process differs for Moore and Morrison depending on the artists with which they collaborate. 3. the show was dwelled too much on the darkness of Chris Ware and Charles Burns work, seeming to imply that a serious comic must be a dark comic. Morrison's the Filth is a serious comic that contains dark disturbing (and wildly inventive) imagery yet also is largely about the transformative nature of love. Jessica Abel's work can be both poignant and joyful. I guess my main criticism is that this may be the first time I've heard an episode of this show where the topic felt like it had been pigeon-holed prior to taping and wasn't able to transcend the normal discussion of the topic. well, I’ve got some critiques–but first, kudos to an generally good show. and an apology for my first post here being mostly negative.

now, on to the critiques:

1. the show’s focus was way too narrow. I love the work of both Chris Ware and Charles Burns, but while financially troubled, comics are a diverse and vibrant medium. I would to hear a follow up show that includes Jessica Abel’s first person journalism, Jay Hosler’s books on Darwin and bees, Alan Moore’s spiritual musings in Promethea, the adventurous work of Grant Morrison such as We3, the Filth, and Vimanarama, and the work of many great Xeric Award winners such as Rhode Montijo’s Pablo’s Inferno or Action Philosopher’s by Ryan Dunleavy and Fred Van Lente.

2. the show also had too much focus on writer/artist creators. comics are very often a collaborative medium–I would love to hear how the creative process differs for Moore and Morrison depending on the artists with which they collaborate.

3. the show was dwelled too much on the darkness of Chris Ware and Charles Burns work, seeming to imply that a serious comic must be a dark comic. Morrison’s the Filth is a serious comic that contains dark disturbing (and wildly inventive) imagery yet also is largely about the transformative nature of love. Jessica Abel’s work can be both poignant and joyful.

I guess my main criticism is that this may be the first time I’ve heard an episode of this show where the topic felt like it had been pigeon-holed prior to taping and wasn’t able to transcend the normal discussion of the topic.

]]> By: bolddeciever http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66250 bolddeciever Wed, 26 Oct 2005 04:25:49 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-dark-pages-an-hour-of-radio-dedicated-to-the-graphic-novel/#comment-66250 In the show, Chris Ware mentioned his preference of the word "comic" over "Graphic Novel." I'm heartened by this. So many observers seem dead set on making newer comics something "different" in order to legitimate them; however, this sort of segregation is based on very little. I am reminded of an anecdote shared by Neil Gaiman in an interview on the PRI program Studio 360. Gaiman was at some literary shindig, and had told some literary bigwig that he made comics. After some awkward conversation, teh man brightened and said "Oh, you're Neil Gaiman! My dear fellow, you don't write comics; you write graphic novels!" Recalling this, Gaiman said, "I felt like a whore who had just been told that she was a 'lady of the evening.'" As an amateur comic artist (and there are more of us than you might think), I'm so glad to see the medium gaining some legitimacy; but I'm even gladder to hear its practitioners not denying their connection to the medium in all its forms. In the show, Chris Ware mentioned his preference of the word “comic” over “Graphic Novel.” I’m heartened by this. So many observers seem dead set on making newer comics something “different” in order to legitimate them; however, this sort of segregation is based on very little. I am reminded of an anecdote shared by Neil Gaiman in an interview on the PRI program Studio 360. Gaiman was at some literary shindig, and had told some literary bigwig that he made comics. After some awkward conversation, teh man brightened and said “Oh, you’re Neil Gaiman! My dear fellow, you don’t write comics; you write graphic novels!” Recalling this, Gaiman said, “I felt like a whore who had just been told that she was a ‘lady of the evening.’”

As an amateur comic artist (and there are more of us than you might think), I’m so glad to see the medium gaining some legitimacy; but I’m even gladder to hear its practitioners not denying their connection to the medium in all its forms.

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