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		<title>By: Sherry Chandler &#187; Flag Burning and other stuff</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-encyclopedia-of-american-conservatism/#comment-75385</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry Chandler &#187; Flag Burning and other stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  of. 	All this serves as a lead-in to noting that I have listened to the full broadcast of Radio Open Source&#8217;s consideration of modern conservatism. By and  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: scribe5</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the NY Times Sunday book review:







&#039;Reading Leo Strauss,&#039; by Steven B. Smith

Neocon or Not?

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Review by ROBERT ALTER

Published: June 25, 2006





http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/books/review/25alter.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the NY Times Sunday book review:</p>
<p>&#8216;Reading Leo Strauss,&#8217; by Steven B. Smith</p>
<p>Neocon or Not?</p>
<p>               E-MailPrint Save</p>
<p>Review by ROBERT ALTER</p>
<p>Published: June 25, 2006</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/books/review/25alter.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/books/review/25alter.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>
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		<title>By: scribe5</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-encyclopedia-of-american-conservatism/#comment-75383</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And I agree with onevoice: taxes are a moral act. They are not slavery.&quot;



I agree that they are not slavery, though I wouldn&#039;t call them a moral act.



Taxation is the price we pay for belonging to a polity; for being memebers of a community. This is one area  of social policy with which I totally disagree with many conservatives. Too often they write and act as if taxation were the worst evil in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And I agree with onevoice: taxes are a moral act. They are not slavery.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that they are not slavery, though I wouldn&#8217;t call them a moral act.</p>
<p>Taxation is the price we pay for belonging to a polity; for being memebers of a community. This is one area  of social policy with which I totally disagree with many conservatives. Too often they write and act as if taxation were the worst evil in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: scribe5</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-encyclopedia-of-american-conservatism/#comment-75382</link>
		<dc:creator>scribe5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You are right to condemn those leftists who claim there is no intellectual weight on the side of conservatism, though you might have chosen somewhat more contemporary figures to illustrate your point.&quot;





Yes I could have but I eas tyring to consider founding members of modern conservatism to make the point that it wasn&#039;t exaclty created yesterday.









&quot;However, you are wrong to throw the same accusation back at the left.&quot;



I was focusing on people who post here and not on academics.











&quot;I donâ€™t think JK Galbraith only â€œhalfâ€? understood his intellectual positions, for

example.&quot;





Of course, Galbraith like Alan Greenspan to cite his conservative opposite know what they are talking about. Again, I was focusing on people who post here who for the most part don&#039;t are just mouthing cliches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are right to condemn those leftists who claim there is no intellectual weight on the side of conservatism, though you might have chosen somewhat more contemporary figures to illustrate your point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes I could have but I eas tyring to consider founding members of modern conservatism to make the point that it wasn&#8217;t exaclty created yesterday.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, you are wrong to throw the same accusation back at the left.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was focusing on people who post here and not on academics.</p>
<p>&#8220;I donâ€™t think JK Galbraith only â€œhalfâ€? understood his intellectual positions, for</p>
<p>example.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, Galbraith like Alan Greenspan to cite his conservative opposite know what they are talking about. Again, I was focusing on people who post here who for the most part don&#8217;t are just mouthing cliches.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-encyclopedia-of-american-conservatism/#comment-75381</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Onevoice&lt;/b&gt;- I focussed on that passage too. That&#039;s one of the things I was screaming about. Bartlett decried big government and when Chris asked him to elaborate, the first things that came out of his mouth were social programs. Chris had to bring up the war. The comparison of paying taxes to slavery is primary evidence of the bankrupcy of his &quot;theories&quot;... He retreated by saying it was theory. Shameful-- on a day when I hear Edward Kennnedy yelling through the airwaves vis the Senate about a minimum wage that is a little over $5.



I did not hear one word about the poor, the sick, the underprivileged, about social problems like health care ( except to complain about the RX drug benefit). But Bartlett did mention being prepared to &quot;defend&quot; the country.



What was left out of the conversation was very telling.



BTW I think David Brooks descriptions/categories, if valid, are perhaps more representative of the split within the Republicans/Conservatives.



This must be unnerving for a party that likes to be in lock step...&quot;talking points&quot; and all the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Onevoice</b>- I focussed on that passage too. That&#8217;s one of the things I was screaming about. Bartlett decried big government and when Chris asked him to elaborate, the first things that came out of his mouth were social programs. Chris had to bring up the war. The comparison of paying taxes to slavery is primary evidence of the bankrupcy of his &#8220;theories&#8221;&#8230; He retreated by saying it was theory. Shameful&#8211; on a day when I hear Edward Kennnedy yelling through the airwaves vis the Senate about a minimum wage that is a little over $5.</p>
<p>I did not hear one word about the poor, the sick, the underprivileged, about social problems like health care ( except to complain about the RX drug benefit). But Bartlett did mention being prepared to &#8220;defend&#8221; the country.</p>
<p>What was left out of the conversation was very telling.</p>
<p>BTW I think David Brooks descriptions/categories, if valid, are perhaps more representative of the split within the Republicans/Conservatives.</p>
<p>This must be unnerving for a party that likes to be in lock step&#8230;&#8221;talking points&#8221; and all the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua hendrickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua hendrickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scribe 5 says,

I just heard the term â€œintellectual conservatismâ€?, oxymoron?â€?



Tell that to Burke, Coleridge, Disraeli, Hegel, etc.



What is true is that contemporary leftist liberals are not intellectuals at all. They just play with ideas they half understand.



You are right to condemn those leftists who claim there is no intellectual weight on the side of conservatism, though you might have chosen somewhat more contemporary figures to illustrate your point.  However, you are wrong to throw the same accusation back at the left.  I don&#039;t think JK Galbraith only &quot;half&quot; understood his intellectual positions, for example.



And I agree with onevoice:  taxes are a moral act.  They are not slavery.  I just cannot understand the position of those people who really don&#039;t think those less fortunate deserve to be helped out.



Sidenote:  I always loved those lyrics from &quot;Armageddon Days Are Here Again.&quot;  I put them in the category of &quot;Getting Truer Every Day.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scribe 5 says,</p>
<p>I just heard the term â€œintellectual conservatismâ€?, oxymoron?â€?</p>
<p>Tell that to Burke, Coleridge, Disraeli, Hegel, etc.</p>
<p>What is true is that contemporary leftist liberals are not intellectuals at all. They just play with ideas they half understand.</p>
<p>You are right to condemn those leftists who claim there is no intellectual weight on the side of conservatism, though you might have chosen somewhat more contemporary figures to illustrate your point.  However, you are wrong to throw the same accusation back at the left.  I don&#8217;t think JK Galbraith only &#8220;half&#8221; understood his intellectual positions, for example.</p>
<p>And I agree with onevoice:  taxes are a moral act.  They are not slavery.  I just cannot understand the position of those people who really don&#8217;t think those less fortunate deserve to be helped out.</p>
<p>Sidenote:  I always loved those lyrics from &#8220;Armageddon Days Are Here Again.&#8221;  I put them in the category of &#8220;Getting Truer Every Day.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: scribe5</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-encyclopedia-of-american-conservatism/#comment-75379</link>
		<dc:creator>scribe5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We cannot have a meaningful dialogue about society, solidarity, and our obligations to ourselves and to one another until such fruitless and insidious tactics of discourse are overcome. Paying taxes is an expression of our commitment to a shared fate. Taxes are moral acts. Fairnes and obligation proportional to oneâ€™s means lies at the heart of any enlightened moral society.&quot;



Yes, and the best commentators of social life have always used a dialectical approach and didn&#039;t bother to call themselves either &quot;conservative&quot; or &quot;liberal.&quot;



They left it to other lesser minds to categorize their views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We cannot have a meaningful dialogue about society, solidarity, and our obligations to ourselves and to one another until such fruitless and insidious tactics of discourse are overcome. Paying taxes is an expression of our commitment to a shared fate. Taxes are moral acts. Fairnes and obligation proportional to oneâ€™s means lies at the heart of any enlightened moral society.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, and the best commentators of social life have always used a dialectical approach and didn&#8217;t bother to call themselves either &#8220;conservative&#8221; or &#8220;liberal.&#8221;</p>
<p>They left it to other lesser minds to categorize their views.</p>
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		<title>By: onevoice</title>
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		<dc:creator>onevoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have with &quot;conservatism&quot; and with &quot;liberalism&quot; is the way issues are misconceived. Fundamental errors are covered over with banalities and abstractions which totally obscure the complexities of the problems. To cite one example: Bruce Bartlett began his explanation of conservatism by talking about taxes. He compared paying taxes to a form of slavery. When challenged, (although, in my opinion, not vigorously enought) he ducked the important point by saying he was &quot;speaking theoretically.&quot; We cannot have a meaningful dialogue about society, solidarity, and our obligations to ourselves and to one another until such fruitless and insidious tactics of discourse are overcome. Paying taxes is an expression of our commitment to a shared fate. Taxes are moral acts. Fairnes and obligation proportional to one&#039;s means lies at the heart of any enlightened moral society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have with &#8220;conservatism&#8221; and with &#8220;liberalism&#8221; is the way issues are misconceived. Fundamental errors are covered over with banalities and abstractions which totally obscure the complexities of the problems. To cite one example: Bruce Bartlett began his explanation of conservatism by talking about taxes. He compared paying taxes to a form of slavery. When challenged, (although, in my opinion, not vigorously enought) he ducked the important point by saying he was &#8220;speaking theoretically.&#8221; We cannot have a meaningful dialogue about society, solidarity, and our obligations to ourselves and to one another until such fruitless and insidious tactics of discourse are overcome. Paying taxes is an expression of our commitment to a shared fate. Taxes are moral acts. Fairnes and obligation proportional to one&#8217;s means lies at the heart of any enlightened moral society.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-encyclopedia-of-american-conservatism/#comment-75377</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scribe 5 some people who advise others to read David Brooks should read my post which says:



&lt;b&gt;After shouting at the radio for the hour I went to read the David Brooks piece and for the life of me I could not identify with one or the other of his new categories&lt;/b&gt;



I linked Kos because David Brooks piece is behind a firewall and the Kos piece matched my reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scribe 5 some people who advise others to read David Brooks should read my post which says:</p>
<p><b>After shouting at the radio for the hour I went to read the David Brooks piece and for the life of me I could not identify with one or the other of his new categories</b></p>
<p>I linked Kos because David Brooks piece is behind a firewall and the Kos piece matched my reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: scribe5</title>
		<link>http://www.radioopensource.org/the-encyclopedia-of-american-conservatism/#comment-75376</link>
		<dc:creator>scribe5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people who complain that they feel manipulated should read first the actual source material and not depend on other reader&#039;s interpretations.





David Brooks own words might make more sense that Kos&#039;s reinterpretation of them.  The Kos piece reads like a parody of his views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people who complain that they feel manipulated should read first the actual source material and not depend on other reader&#8217;s interpretations.</p>
<p>David Brooks own words might make more sense that Kos&#8217;s reinterpretation of them.  The Kos piece reads like a parody of his views.</p>
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