Comments on: The Future of Newspapers http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:27:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: nother http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73019 nother Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:22:54 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73019 I second that Nikos. I second that Nikos.

]]> By: Nikos http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73018 Nikos Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:11:56 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73018 What <i>idiot</i> thought up 'Times Select'? Thank you, NYT, for pricing me out of Maureen Dowd. You dumb elitist jerks. What idiot thought up ‘Times Select’?

Thank you, NYT, for pricing me out of Maureen Dowd.

You dumb elitist jerks.

]]> By: reality_bytes_it http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73017 reality_bytes_it Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:41:58 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73017 Credibility - NYT's puts artilce based on false statement from Fitzy on front page and correction on A17. "Paper of Record" "Too biased to preserve its credibility, not biased enough to keep its readership." But I am sure that Chris has already incorporated the discredited page one story into his CW. http://www.nytimes.com/ref/pageoneplus/corrections.html Credibility – NYT’s puts artilce based on false statement from Fitzy on front page and correction on A17. “Paper of Record”

“Too biased to preserve its credibility, not biased enough to keep its readership.”

But I am sure that Chris has already incorporated the discredited page one story into his CW.

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/pageoneplus/corrections.html

]]> By: reality_bytes_it http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73016 reality_bytes_it Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:34:31 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73016 Allison - The NIE contained the phrase Iraq was "vigorously trying to procure’ uranium.â€? Just like no one doubts that they didn't actaully have nuclear capabilties at the time of the invasion no one also doubts that they were seeking it. Every agency in every report, before during and after the invasion agrees that they were - NO decents. The pointssssss that you want to try and forget is that it is the Papers / MSM's credibiltiy that is crunbling here. The NYT is still to detract its story regarding the initial claim by Fitz that he just retracted. I supply another link that will let any honest individual judge the honesty of the AP for themselves. http://instapundit.com/archives/029664.php Allison – The NIE contained the phrase Iraq was “vigorously trying to procure’ uranium.â€? Just like no one doubts that they didn’t actaully have nuclear capabilties at the time of the invasion no one also doubts that they were seeking it. Every agency in every report, before during and after the invasion agrees that they were – NO decents.

The pointssssss that you want to try and forget is that it is the Papers / MSM’s credibiltiy that is crunbling here. The NYT is still to detract its story regarding the initial claim by Fitz that he just retracted.

I supply another link that will let any honest individual judge the honesty of the AP for themselves.

http://instapundit.com/archives/029664.php

]]> By: BTD_Venkat http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73015 BTD_Venkat Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:54:35 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73015 Alan Rusbridge mentions India several times as a place where newspaper reading is likely to continue for various reasons. He's probably right. Reading the newspaper is serious leisure activity there. Retirees in particular take it to the next level. I guess it happens everywhere but I have strong memories of people sitting around reading the newspaper and just seriously lounging with their morning or afternoon coffee or tea. Alan Rusbridge mentions India several times as a place where newspaper reading is likely to continue for various reasons. He’s probably right. Reading the newspaper is serious leisure activity there. Retirees in particular take it to the next level. I guess it happens everywhere but I have strong memories of people sitting around reading the newspaper and just seriously lounging with their morning or afternoon coffee or tea.

]]> By: allison http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73014 allison Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:55:04 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73014 Still, what you miss, r_b_i, is that they were selectively releasing only parts of the NIE report. These parts did not include the conclusions, where it was stated that NIE did not believe there was sufficient evidence to support the idea that Iraq was actively procuring. They knew they were disseminating misinformation. And the WAPO is still just reporting on that selective release as part of the investigation into what Libby was up to. They are not reporting on what the entire document actually concluded. Still, what you miss, r_b_i, is that they were selectively releasing only parts of the NIE report. These parts did not include the conclusions, where it was stated that NIE did not believe there was sufficient evidence to support the idea that Iraq was actively procuring. They knew they were disseminating misinformation. And the WAPO is still just reporting on that selective release as part of the investigation into what Libby was up to. They are not reporting on what the entire document actually concluded.

]]> By: reality_bytes_it http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73013 reality_bytes_it Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:28:32 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73013 Oh Allison WAPO says Fitzy boy made a mistaky poo. Prosecutor in CIA Leak Case Corrects Part of Court Filing Instead, the sentence should have conveyed that Libby was to tell Miller some of the key judgments of the NIE "and that the NIE stated that Iraq was 'vigorously trying to procure' uranium." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/11/AR2006041101440_pf.html Oh Allison WAPO says Fitzy boy made a mistaky poo.

Prosecutor in CIA Leak Case Corrects Part of Court Filing

Instead, the sentence should have conveyed that Libby was to tell Miller some of the key judgments of the NIE “and that the NIE stated that Iraq was ‘vigorously trying to procure’ uranium.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/11/AR2006041101440_pf.html

]]> By: Lisa Williams http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73012 Lisa Williams Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:19:40 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73012 Frances: You know, your comment makes me think how nobody is talking about how the internet is going to replace magazines. You don't read stories about "Death Knell for the New Yorker!" One of the things that I thought was really weird about the current war is that news was being broken at The New Yorker and Vanity Fair (!!). Maybe the good writing and the in-depth writing and the investigative writing is migrating to magazines. I subscribe to: Foreign Affairs Scientific American MAKE The New Yorker Discover The Nation Cook's Illustrated and I wish I subscribed to more, actually. I desperately miss Thomas Frank's The Baffler. I loved The Economist, but the price makes me blanch, and honestly, it felt overwhelming, I'd hardly be through the first few articles and another would land on the doorstep. I really enjoyed it when it was one of the things my workplace subscribed to, so I could just dip into one at will without feeling I was wasting my subscription. A magazine stand is a wonderful thing. (The net *HAS* been very, very bad for technology trade press magazines. Nobody talks about how Engadget and Gizmodo are competing with Wired and PC Week, but they should. I personally miss the old doorstop size Computer Shoppers). Frances: You know, your comment makes me think how nobody is talking about how the internet is going to replace magazines. You don’t read stories about “Death Knell for the New Yorker!”

One of the things that I thought was really weird about the current war is that news was being broken at The New Yorker and Vanity Fair (!!).

Maybe the good writing and the in-depth writing and the investigative writing is migrating to magazines.

I subscribe to:

Foreign Affairs

Scientific American

MAKE

The New Yorker

Discover

The Nation

Cook’s Illustrated

and I wish I subscribed to more, actually. I desperately miss Thomas Frank’s The Baffler. I loved The Economist, but the price makes me blanch, and honestly, it felt overwhelming, I’d hardly be through the first few articles and another would land on the doorstep. I really enjoyed it when it was one of the things my workplace subscribed to, so I could just dip into one at will without feeling I was wasting my subscription.

A magazine stand is a wonderful thing.

(The net *HAS* been very, very bad for technology trade press magazines. Nobody talks about how Engadget and Gizmodo are competing with Wired and PC Week, but they should. I personally miss the old doorstop size Computer Shoppers).

]]> By: frances http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73011 frances Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:36:00 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73011 I agree that the quality of the local paper is sometimes lacking. In fact, one of the high points of the electronic world we live in is that I, on the West Coast, can get a local version of the New York Times delivered to my door! I can find it at my coffee shop. There I get good writing in a newspapers. However, I also like my local paper, and find the most interesting part of it, aside from the local stories, to be the editorial columnists from around the country--not wire service stuff, this--and the local letter-writers. I love to jump into the fray, and there is no greater thrill than seeing your letter right there on the op-ed page. I love going out in the morning and finding my newspaper in the driveway, spreading it out on the table as I eat. That being said, I rely heavily on radio for my news, because I can be listening while I drive or prepare meals or do my daily chores. I support my local public radio station. I also have my own blogs. It would be nice not to be throwing away so much wasted paper every week, nice not to have to rely so heavily on advertizing. That, to me, is the downside of newspapers. But without the advertizing, how to pay for good writing? Lots to think about here. I agree that the quality of the local paper is sometimes lacking. In fact, one of the high points of the electronic world we live in is that I, on the West Coast, can get a local version of the New York Times delivered to my door! I can find it at my coffee shop. There I get good writing in a newspapers. However, I also like my local paper, and find the most interesting part of it, aside from the local stories, to be the editorial columnists from around the country–not wire service stuff, this–and the local letter-writers. I love to jump into the fray, and there is no greater thrill than seeing your letter right there on the op-ed page.

I love going out in the morning and finding my newspaper in the driveway, spreading it out on the table as I eat.

That being said, I rely heavily on radio for my news, because I can be listening while I drive or prepare meals or do my daily chores. I support my local public radio station. I also have my own blogs.

It would be nice not to be throwing away so much wasted paper every week, nice not to have to rely so heavily on advertizing. That, to me, is the downside of newspapers. But without the advertizing, how to pay for good writing?

Lots to think about here.

]]> By: cubbie http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73010 cubbie Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:47:25 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-future-of-newspapers/#comment-73010 Please correct the record...the first guest from London had many wrong numbers - by half. $350 to place an ad on The Times not $600-900. The NYTimes has 5,000 employees not 10,000. Craigs list has come round to the paid model! It's now costs to place a RE ad or Help Wanted ad on Craigs. Why? Because therre are so many bogus ads on Craigs. Paid means real ads and better value for users. Yes it is shifting to digital but newspapers are far from dead. The NY Times has doubled it's audience since going online. How about an alternative view? Please correct the record…the first guest from London had many wrong numbers – by half. $350 to place an ad on The Times not $600-900. The NYTimes has 5,000 employees not 10,000. Craigs list has come round to the paid model! It’s now costs to place a RE ad or Help Wanted ad on Craigs. Why? Because therre are so many bogus ads on Craigs. Paid means real ads and better value for users. Yes it is shifting to digital but newspapers are far from dead. The NY Times has doubled it’s audience since going online. How about an alternative view?

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