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]]> By: Brendan http://www.radioopensource.org/the-gaza-pull-out/#comment-65330 Brendan Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:37:47 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=205#comment-65330 Hi guys, I'm a little worried at the direction this thread has taken, with the invective now almost exclusively personal. This is an open forum, yes, but everyone on it has an obligation to keep it civil. I probably should have done this yesterday, but I'm closing down this comment thread. You are all welcome and invited to comment anywhere else on the site you'd like. Hi guys, I’m a little worried at the direction this thread has taken, with the invective now almost exclusively personal. This is an open forum, yes, but everyone on it has an obligation to keep it civil. I probably should have done this yesterday, but I’m closing down this comment thread. You are all welcome and invited to comment anywhere else on the site you’d like.

]]> By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/the-gaza-pull-out/#comment-65329 LeeJudt Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:31:57 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=205#comment-65329 "LeeJudt, I’m sure you’ll disagree with me, so there’s no need to reply. This will be the only message I’m going to post on this particular thread. Everyone has made their opinions clear, so let’s just move on…. " You are right I don't reply to self serving messages. As for the substance of you message, yes you are wrong on most of the points you brught up. Just because someone somewhere will be offended somewhere doesn't mean that those offended should keep their mouths shut. Nor does it excuse the offending party. “LeeJudt, I’m sure you’ll disagree with me, so there’s no need to reply. This will be the only message I’m going to post on this particular thread. Everyone has made their opinions clear, so let’s just move on…. ”

You are right I don’t reply to self serving messages.

As for the substance of you message, yes you are wrong on most of the points you brught up.

Just because someone somewhere will be offended somewhere doesn’t mean that those offended should keep their mouths shut. Nor does it excuse the offending party.

]]> By: andycarvin http://www.radioopensource.org/the-gaza-pull-out/#comment-65328 andycarvin Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:49:27 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=205#comment-65328 LeeJudt is right that he and everyone else has the right to their own opinions. I certainly won't begrudge him for that. But I think we also all have a responsibility to keep the forum civil and constructive, and not turn it into a rhetorical cockfight with no way of ending it. I'm worried we're seeing the creation of a vicious cycle in which everyone involved in this particular debate wants to get in the last word. This kind of tit-for-tat fighting won't change anyone's opinions; instead it'll just entrench them. LeeJudt thinks Chris owes Jews an apology. As far as I'm concerned, he doesn't owe me one. No matter what balance of people had been on the show, I guarantee you there would have been some listeners who would be outraged, demanding an apology. When it comes to discussions around Palestine, there's no way to have a conversation without insulting someone, somewhere. LeeJudt, I'm sure you'll disagree with me, so there's no need to reply. This will be the only message I'm going to post on this particular thread. Everyone has made their opinions clear, so let's just move on.... LeeJudt is right that he and everyone else has the right to their own opinions. I certainly won’t begrudge him for that. But I think we also all have a responsibility to keep the forum civil and constructive, and not turn it into a rhetorical cockfight with no way of ending it. I’m worried we’re seeing the creation of a vicious cycle in which everyone involved in this particular debate wants to get in the last word. This kind of tit-for-tat fighting won’t change anyone’s opinions; instead it’ll just entrench them.

LeeJudt thinks Chris owes Jews an apology. As far as I’m concerned, he doesn’t owe me one. No matter what balance of people had been on the show, I guarantee you there would have been some listeners who would be outraged, demanding an apology. When it comes to discussions around Palestine, there’s no way to have a conversation without insulting someone, somewhere.

LeeJudt, I’m sure you’ll disagree with me, so there’s no need to reply. This will be the only message I’m going to post on this particular thread. Everyone has made their opinions clear, so let’s just move on….

]]> By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/the-gaza-pull-out/#comment-65327 LeeJudt Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:41:07 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=205#comment-65327 “Don’t worry LeeJudt, the fate of Israel does not change based on comments by a couple of amatures trying to solve the world’s problems. Just chill and don’t raise your blood pressure, and definittely don’t accuse our gracious host with unfounded allegations. I, for one am grateful for his many great programs.� You chill out endoman and stop monitoring other people’s blood pressure. Better check your own. I am not worried about the fate of Israel and your host was less than gracious in his Gaza broadcast. Those who love this broadcast better worry about its fate. A few more imbalanced programmed and it will be ready for the ash heap. Now, I made a comment about my and a few other people I know perceptions of the Gaza program. If people don’t like my views tough! This is an open forum, isn’t it? Just because I posted my views and just because I’ll answer those who attack my views doesn’t mean that I am trying to “monopolize this so called open source blog.� I have a right to my comments just as other have a right to theirs. “Don’t worry LeeJudt, the fate of Israel does not change based on comments by a couple of amatures trying to solve the world’s problems. Just chill and don’t raise your blood pressure, and definittely don’t accuse our gracious host with unfounded allegations. I, for one am grateful for his many great programs.�

You chill out endoman and stop monitoring other people’s blood pressure. Better check your own.

I am not worried about the fate of Israel and your host was less than gracious in his Gaza broadcast. Those who love this broadcast better worry about its fate. A few more imbalanced programmed and it will be ready for the ash heap.

Now, I made a comment about my and a few other people I know perceptions of the Gaza program. If people don’t like my views tough! This is an open forum, isn’t it? Just because I posted my views and just because I’ll answer those who attack my views doesn’t mean that I am trying to “monopolize this so called open source blog.�

I have a right to my comments just as other have a right to theirs.

]]> By: endoman http://www.radioopensource.org/the-gaza-pull-out/#comment-65326 endoman Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:28:40 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=205#comment-65326 LeeJudt has apparently taken the blog hostage. Sighting Mickey Mouse statistics and fudging facts he is set to implement his agenda. In my opinion, the program was balanced and so is Chris. LeeJudt's perception of fair and balanced, however, is undoubtedly biased. That the settlers had to be evacuated in such manner is a tragedy; but the blame lies squarely on the irresponsible policies of the governments that placed them there to begin with. When you settle folks on land without a title, you're essentially using them as pawns. You advance them when necessary and sacrifice them when the time comes. That’s what they did to these poor people. It's sad but that’s what seems to have taken place here. We can all hope that these issues are resolved as peacefully as possible. But I think LeeJudt should try to make his arguments rationally versus emotionally attacking folks who disagree with his extreme position. Chris is a great host and does not have an agenda. Let’s get along and use mindfulness vs. fatwa’s and decrees for the demise of fellow bloggers simply sharing their opinions. Don’t worry LeeJudt, the fate of Israel does not change based on comments by a couple of amatures trying to solve the world’s problems. Just chill and don’t raise your blood pressure, and definittely don't accuse our gracious host with unfounded allegations. I, for one am grateful for his many great programs. LeeJudt has apparently taken the blog hostage. Sighting Mickey Mouse statistics and fudging facts he is set to implement his agenda. In my opinion, the program was balanced and so is Chris. LeeJudt’s perception of fair and balanced, however, is undoubtedly biased. That the settlers had to be evacuated in such manner is a tragedy; but the blame lies squarely on the irresponsible policies of the governments that placed them there to begin with. When you settle folks on land without a title, you’re essentially using them as pawns. You advance them when necessary and sacrifice them when the time comes. That’s what they did to these poor people. It’s sad but that’s what seems to have taken place here. We can all hope that these issues are resolved as peacefully as possible. But I think LeeJudt should try to make his arguments rationally versus emotionally attacking folks who disagree with his extreme position. Chris is a great host and does not have an agenda. Let’s get along and use mindfulness vs. fatwa’s and decrees for the demise of fellow bloggers simply sharing their opinions. Don’t worry LeeJudt, the fate of Israel does not change based on comments by a couple of amatures trying to solve the world’s problems. Just chill and don’t raise your blood pressure, and definittely don’t accuse our gracious host with unfounded allegations. I, for one am grateful for his many great programs.

]]> By: LeeJudt http://www.radioopensource.org/the-gaza-pull-out/#comment-65325 LeeJudt Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:29:20 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/?p=205#comment-65325 "%60 were in favor of disengagement. I can assume that quite a percentage of those were uncomfortable with it morally." I am in favor of disengagement, how is that relevant to the argument? "Enough Lee. Keep posting. you owe me an apology as well as Chris. I’m done. Have your say." Enough yourself. No one is twisting your arm and telling you to post. As for apologies, Chris owes an apology to the Jewish community for airing such a shabby one sided program. You owe me an apology for supporting with callous supercilious and arrogant arguments the one sided program. “%60 were in favor of disengagement. I can assume that quite a percentage of those were uncomfortable with it morally.”

I am in favor of disengagement, how is that relevant to the argument?

“Enough Lee. Keep posting. you owe me an apology as well as Chris. I’m done. Have your say.”

Enough yourself. No one is twisting your arm and telling you to post.

As for apologies, Chris owes an apology to the Jewish community for airing such a shabby one sided program. You owe me an apology for supporting with callous supercilious and arrogant arguments the one sided program.

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