Comments on: The Genetics of Genealogy http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/ Christopher Lydon in conversation on arts, ideas and politics Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:09:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: conditional license class amature radio http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69176 conditional license class amature radio Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:57:14 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69176 [...] equal access to education, class, cultural bias etc. Recent advances in genetic testing ...http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/License,Amateu [...] [...] equal access to education, class, cultural bias etc. Recent advances in genetic testing …http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/License,Amateu [...]

]]> By: serious lee http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69175 serious lee Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:52:28 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69175 Hello Hello

]]> By: Nikos http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69174 Nikos Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:17:02 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69174 It's probably too late to catch anyone's attention now, but I just read an analysis of the 'Cohanim geneology' in Jonathan Marks's <i>What it Means to be 98% Chimpanzee</i> @ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006AG20/002-7919812-6315255?v=glance&n=551440 It’s probably too late to catch anyone’s attention now, but I just read an analysis of the ‘Cohanim geneology’ in Jonathan Marks’s What it Means to be 98% Chimpanzee @ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006AG20/002-7919812-6315255?v=glance&n=551440

]]> By: Potter http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69173 Potter Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:12:50 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69173 We've decided to partake in the National Geographic Genographic Project. Too enticing. Will not get involved in more than a very moderate way Nother, promise. I may be related to Andy Carvin. We’ve decided to partake in the National Geographic Genographic Project. Too enticing. Will not get involved in more than a very moderate way Nother, promise.

I may be related to Andy Carvin.

]]> By: terence http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69172 terence Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:01:02 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69172 Dr Wells Going back 60,000 years is quite a jump. Perhaps we would be more focused if we asked questions like: Christopher Columbus just had an audience with the Queen . Where were your genes? The Normans are invading and Harold must defend us! Where were your genes? This general has crossed the Rubicon, and is heading to Rome. Where were your genes? Get them big stones over here by Tuesday, or we will not get this Stonehenge thing up and running until next week! Where were your genes? I am an avid amature genealogist. I am familiar with family lines going back about 300 years. I have a particular interest in cousins that marry cousins. I have put together a handfull of charts demonstrating that a child has only four great grandparents, instead of the eight that we would normally expect. Also those lineages that demonstrate that one person alive in 1995 has five distinct paths back to a woman alive in 1650. When the DNA of these persons is examined, how will it differ from the DNA of a person who has six generations of ancestors that were NOT cousins? Does the multiple connections to a third great grandfather increase the chance of a certain marker appearing? I can see that the number of ancestors, as you said on the PRI program, does not double each generation, but increase by a factor of 1.4 or 1.8 over 200 generations. Other than the two markers discussed (M & F) do you see in the future the ability to trace OTHER markers? Dr Wells

Going back 60,000 years is quite a jump. Perhaps we would be more focused if we asked questions like:

Christopher Columbus just had an audience with the Queen . Where were your genes?

The Normans are invading and Harold must defend us! Where were your genes?

This general has crossed the Rubicon, and is heading to Rome. Where were your genes?

Get them big stones over here by Tuesday, or we will not get this Stonehenge thing up and running until next week!

Where were your genes?

I am an avid amature genealogist. I am familiar with family lines going back about 300 years.

I have a particular interest in cousins that marry cousins.

I have put together a handfull of charts demonstrating that a child has only four great grandparents, instead of the eight that we would normally expect.

Also those lineages that demonstrate that one person alive in 1995 has five distinct paths back to a woman alive in

1650.

When the DNA of these persons is examined, how will it differ from the DNA of a person who has six generations of ancestors

that were NOT cousins?

Does the multiple connections to a third great grandfather increase the chance of a certain marker appearing?

I can see that the number of ancestors, as you said on the PRI program, does not double each generation, but increase by a factor of 1.4 or 1.8 over 200 generations.

Other than the two markers discussed (M & F) do you see in the future the ability to trace OTHER markers?

]]> By: razib http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69171 razib Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:58:44 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69171 Your are welcome Chris. Your are welcome Chris.

]]> By: razib http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69170 razib Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:29:40 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69170 <b><i>I am not Richard Dawkins!</i></b> I am not Richard Dawkins!

]]> By: nother http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69169 nother Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:49:53 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69169 When I see people engage in these searches in more than a moderate way, I come away with the feeling that this can be another symptom of our deep yearning for immortality. We tend to want to stretch this short life out either way, future or past. It’s very important to focus on these precious fleeting years we have. I have a feeling some of the people searching deep into their genealogy are coming away with more knowledge about their distant ancestors than the knowledge they have about their living relatives. I bet when they find one of these names from 200 years ago they say to themselves, wouldn’t it be great if I knew all about this person, how they lived, what they thought? Guess what, you can know more about the family around you, call up uncle Joe, your second cousin Sue, have that in-depth conversation. 200 years from now one of your future relatives will be doing a computer search on your second cousin Sue and will be asking themselves, wouldn’t it be great if I had a chance to know more about this person. When I see people engage in these searches in more than a moderate way, I come away with the feeling that this can be another symptom of our deep yearning for immortality. We tend to want to stretch this short life out either way, future or past. It’s very important to focus on these precious fleeting years we have.

I have a feeling some of the people searching deep into their genealogy are coming away with more knowledge about their distant ancestors than the knowledge they have about their living relatives. I bet when they find one of these names from 200 years ago they say to themselves, wouldn’t it be great if I knew all about this person, how they lived, what they thought? Guess what, you can know more about the family around you, call up uncle Joe, your second cousin Sue, have that in-depth conversation. 200 years from now one of your future relatives will be doing a computer search on your second cousin Sue and will be asking themselves, wouldn’t it be great if I had a chance to know more about this person.

]]> By: razib http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69168 razib Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:36:38 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69168 mad props to john. he might not be as pretty as spencer, but he knows his human genetics. at the current rate john you'll become such a big public intellectual that you'll be guaranteed tenure denial! a question for spencer, last year you were interviewed in <i>discover</i> where you addressed the reality of human variation. and recently you offered nick wade some quotes for his commentary on the idea of recent human cognitive evolution, which does have a human variation angle. are you going to look at functional differences after the neutral lineage gig is exhauste? mad props to john. he might not be as pretty as spencer, but he knows his human genetics. at the current rate john you’ll become such a big public intellectual that you’ll be guaranteed tenure denial!

a question for spencer, last year you were interviewed in discover where you addressed the reality of human variation. and recently you offered nick wade some quotes for his commentary on the idea of recent human cognitive evolution, which does have a human variation angle. are you going to look at functional differences after the neutral lineage gig is exhauste?

]]> By: serious lee http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69167 serious lee Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:24:41 +0000 http://www.radioopensource.org/the-genetics-of-genealogy/#comment-69167 I recently checked out my jeans and found out I'm related to Levi Strauss. I recently checked out my jeans and found out I’m related to Levi Strauss.

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