Comments on: The News about the News: Jay Rosen

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By: rc21

rc21 — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:27:04 +0000

I think this may be the 2nd time you have agreed with me.Then again I may have just been dreaming.

By: Potter

Potter — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:39:06 +0000

Well I have been reading and it goes on and on ( from the above link) discussing this episode and I do not know where we end up except it seems to me that I may agree with RC21 ( for once) and that citizen journalism and mainstream media journalism can both be irresponsible and neither has enough of an understanding of the fires they can cause in this volatile political atmosphere (and so no sense of responsibility in terms of the good of the country). As well we cannot complain when candidates are scripted. Obama dares not to be so.

Australia’s Blue Mountains are covered with bluish Eucalyptus trees ( thus the name) which during a certain season release volatile oils which set off brushfires. Our political season is like that- the air is just filled with volatile oils.

By: Potter

Potter — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:33:25 +0000

From Off The Bus to Meet the Press This is quite a long piece especially if one follows the links Zeke thanks. I get a sense of it though. Some things stand out for me: the competition or battle between citizen journalism( legitimacy) and the main stream media( turf), the pros and cons of each ( for those of us out here reading), the way they serve as checks or critics, on each other ( bloggers to MSM most usefully, MSM in turn conferring legitimacy on bloggers) and the way that news gets manufactured and/or distorted, what gets magnified for what rationales . Wasn't the MSM is just looking to pick up something like the Obama "bitter" story to create a brushfire? ( Remember the Howard Dean "scream"?)

By: rc21

rc21 — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:34:28 +0000

These days you have to be careful when expressing your true thoughts, even amongst friends and supporters.

Outed by one of his own people.No one is safe.

By: Zeke

Zeke — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:01:21 +0000

Running under this introduction, here is Jay Rosen’s account of the rapid path the story took:

“In between there is uncharted territory. Mayhill Fowler’s report quoting Barack Obama at a fundraiser (“It’s not surprising then they get bitter”) was posted at OffTheBus Friday afternoon. By Sunday morning Tim Russert had it top of show. How it happened. Why we did it. ”

http://tinyurl.com/5oma7s

By: Zeke

Zeke — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:53:35 +0000

This show continues to resonate. The recent flap over Obama’s remarks at a private SF fundraiser about the “bitterness” in small town America is a text book example. Unlike George Allen’s “Macacca moment,” in this case, one of his supporters outed him, and did so via the Huffington Post’s auxilliary website, Off the Bus founded, in part, by Jay Rosen.

By: Zeke

Zeke — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:08:40 +0000

Great show. Much to think about and it prompted me to check out Walter Benjamin. However, I am skeptical of the benefits from news organizations turning to their readers for their valuable expertise. For example, The Boston Globe already does this on an organized basis. Here is a representative sample of subjects they want to know about: Texting your teenager; Taking money from your 401-k; Retired but still working; Facebook friends with your boss; Ever been solicited by a prostitute.

By: Potter

Potter — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:45:20 +0000

If you are interested in the Obama bus tour in Pennsylvania try this for internet journalism: Mayhill Fowler: Pennsylvania Campaign Journal: Obama Hams It Up, Flirts, And Gets A Bit Cocky

By: Potter

Potter — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:44:47 +0000

I was flipping through those mildewy New York Times of the period right after 9/11 and then at the time of the invasion of Iraq. One of the reasons I saved them wasthat the headlines were spectacular HUGE BOLD. And the photos on the front page were amazing.

I forgot how these events colored everything. Everything. It not only took our funds- it took our attention. It seemed as though every story in every category, business, style, food, art, local national foreign- was all 9/11 or all Iraq War all the time. If you were from outer space and came upon these papers you would have to wonder at this representation of life on the planet through this lens. Were we really so wrapped and so distorted? I think so. And it was not immediate either. It took a little while to sink in before it spread with the help of administration demagogues and the media. So maybe that is the answer as to why and how Bush got to stay 8 years. We have been gradually collectively waking up. But there were many who have been angry all along who still want heads to roll for this.

I have my own list of names.