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	<title>Comments on: The Plague: Camus&#039;s Fable in Our Time</title>
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		<title>By: Bird Flu Mystery Explained. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<title>By: degeorgeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>degeorgeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just listened to the show a few days ago. Thanks for the wonderful discussion. I agree that the plague is partly a metaphor for war. However, I think Camus looked at the internal state of humans as a war within the solitary individual. I have read both The Plague and The Stranger recently. The two present, I think different reactions to the war within. Rieux of The Plague responds to the war within by acting in the light of common decency to the world without. Meursault of The Stranger acts but without any such guiding light. Life&#039;s absurdity blinds him as the glare of the sun blinds a man on the beach.



I find the contrast of these two books very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just listened to the show a few days ago. Thanks for the wonderful discussion. I agree that the plague is partly a metaphor for war. However, I think Camus looked at the internal state of humans as a war within the solitary individual. I have read both The Plague and The Stranger recently. The two present, I think different reactions to the war within. Rieux of The Plague responds to the war within by acting in the light of common decency to the world without. Meursault of The Stranger acts but without any such guiding light. Life&#8217;s absurdity blinds him as the glare of the sun blinds a man on the beach.</p>
<p>I find the contrast of these two books very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Takumi Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takumi Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just read The Plague after listing to the podcast of the show, I must admit I did not see it much as a metaphor to wars or any other event other then an outbreak.



In fact I feel as though trying to move it beyond what the story is about, to try and focus it on the here and now, takes away from the message of what it was then and there.



However the experience and reactions of the people in the book, from the priest to the doctor, I do see as base human reactions that we can look at in the modern world and just to judge off of in the speculative front.



If a modern plague were to ravage a small town, would we act the same way if it was just as vicious or disruptive after not much time? If a brand new flu came about and Essex, Connecticut had to be cut off from the rest of the U.S.A. due to this deadly mutation of the bird flu that affected humans, would we see a Castel?



A plague is a part of nature, it will act of it&#039;s own violation.

War will act in a similar fashion, but to our horror, we will see our actions change the war, as it will hardly be affected in the way we want or in the speed we wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just read The Plague after listing to the podcast of the show, I must admit I did not see it much as a metaphor to wars or any other event other then an outbreak.</p>
<p>In fact I feel as though trying to move it beyond what the story is about, to try and focus it on the here and now, takes away from the message of what it was then and there.</p>
<p>However the experience and reactions of the people in the book, from the priest to the doctor, I do see as base human reactions that we can look at in the modern world and just to judge off of in the speculative front.</p>
<p>If a modern plague were to ravage a small town, would we act the same way if it was just as vicious or disruptive after not much time? If a brand new flu came about and Essex, Connecticut had to be cut off from the rest of the U.S.A. due to this deadly mutation of the bird flu that affected humans, would we see a Castel?</p>
<p>A plague is a part of nature, it will act of it&#8217;s own violation.</p>
<p>War will act in a similar fashion, but to our horror, we will see our actions change the war, as it will hardly be affected in the way we want or in the speed we wish.</p>
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		<title>By: tbrucia</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbrucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found it interesting that many (not all) postings -- and much of the show itself -- concentrated on &#039;The Plague&#039; as metaphor, and kept trying to &#039;relate&#039; it to our situation... What about simply letting it be itself?  One can immerse oneself in it, and just wait... Nassim Taleb makes the point that we live in a mysterious world, and use narrative to make it less &#039;scary&#039; and more comprehensible -- and in doing so, lie to ourselves.  I find The Plague simply the story of human beings trying ineffectually to make sense of and control a world that is both out of control and senseless.  Isn&#039;t part of the enchantment of The Plague simply that it depicts men in &#039;free fall&#039;, not knowing how they came to be, and with no idea of where they are going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it interesting that many (not all) postings &#8212; and much of the show itself &#8212; concentrated on &#8216;The Plague&#8217; as metaphor, and kept trying to &#8216;relate&#8217; it to our situation&#8230; What about simply letting it be itself?  One can immerse oneself in it, and just wait&#8230; Nassim Taleb makes the point that we live in a mysterious world, and use narrative to make it less &#8216;scary&#8217; and more comprehensible &#8212; and in doing so, lie to ourselves.  I find The Plague simply the story of human beings trying ineffectually to make sense of and control a world that is both out of control and senseless.  Isn&#8217;t part of the enchantment of The Plague simply that it depicts men in &#8216;free fall&#8217;, not knowing how they came to be, and with no idea of where they are going?</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the errors above. BTW- Camus had TB.</description>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Rieux&#039;s mother may be the only woman that stands out in the story. Her serenity, her sense of duty and ability to go on matched that of Dr. Rieux though we hear from he little. She held him up , was dependable... and that may be part Camus&#039; sense of woman, the other part being object of love and affection an.



Rieux had to see his wife off to a sanatorium ( I guess she had TB); he felt helpless and perhaps some guilt for not looking after her better. The saying that Dr&#039;s care for their own family last comes to mind. I think there would have been separation regardless of the plague. He had his rounds and responsibilities, and she would be away in the fresh air of the mountains. They would start again when she got back. There was a tenderness and love between them.



Women do not play important roles in this story. When Rambert was reunited with his love I imagined some stunning film star for the movie version. The women are very thinly or sparsely characterized-perhaps to not leave them out altogether. But note they are essential to happiness.



Good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rieux&#8217;s mother may be the only woman that stands out in the story. Her serenity, her sense of duty and ability to go on matched that of Dr. Rieux though we hear from he little. She held him up , was dependable&#8230; and that may be part Camus&#8217; sense of woman, the other part being object of love and affection an.</p>
<p>Rieux had to see his wife off to a sanatorium ( I guess she had TB); he felt helpless and perhaps some guilt for not looking after her better. The saying that Dr&#8217;s care for their own family last comes to mind. I think there would have been separation regardless of the plague. He had his rounds and responsibilities, and she would be away in the fresh air of the mountains. They would start again when she got back. There was a tenderness and love between them.</p>
<p>Women do not play important roles in this story. When Rambert was reunited with his love I imagined some stunning film star for the movie version. The women are very thinly or sparsely characterized-perhaps to not leave them out altogether. But note they are essential to happiness.</p>
<p>Good point.</p>
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		<title>By: Pacze Moj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pacze Moj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 08:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of women:



There&#039;s the important fact of Rieux&#039;s wife dying &lt;i&gt;during&lt;/i&gt; the plague, but while exiled from it; she&#039;s dead, but it&#039;s not the plague&#039;s fault (or is it, because the plague separated her from Rieux?).



And, speaking of women and Rieux:



There&#039;s the character of Rieux&#039;s mother. She&#039;s a fascinating one. I didn&#039;t quite get my head around her, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of women:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the important fact of Rieux&#8217;s wife dying <i>during</i> the plague, but while exiled from it; she&#8217;s dead, but it&#8217;s not the plague&#8217;s fault (or is it, because the plague separated her from Rieux?).</p>
<p>And, speaking of women and Rieux:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the character of Rieux&#8217;s mother. She&#8217;s a fascinating one. I didn&#8217;t quite get my head around her, though.</p>
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		<title>By: nother</title>
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		<dc:creator>nother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My folk singer friend was in a melancholy mood tonight; he just came back from the wake of a former schoolmate who recently died in his sleep.



I said, â€œFitz, thatâ€™s the plague, man!â€



But isnâ€™t it?  For that (40something) gentleman and his family, he fell victim to the worst plague in historyâ€¦his own.



I said â€œFitz, thatâ€™s what Camus was getting at, death is around every corner, so live your life accordingly.â€



We donâ€™t need any dead rats to tell us we might close our eyes tonight for the last time.



I think Iâ€™m gonna to hug someone todayâ€¦</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My folk singer friend was in a melancholy mood tonight; he just came back from the wake of a former schoolmate who recently died in his sleep.</p>
<p>I said, â€œFitz, thatâ€™s the plague, man!â€</p>
<p>But isnâ€™t it?  For that (40something) gentleman and his family, he fell victim to the worst plague in historyâ€¦his own.</p>
<p>I said â€œFitz, thatâ€™s what Camus was getting at, death is around every corner, so live your life accordingly.â€</p>
<p>We donâ€™t need any dead rats to tell us we might close our eyes tonight for the last time.</p>
<p>I think Iâ€™m gonna to hug someone todayâ€¦</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 03:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Potter, he is somewhat angelic. His being seems to inspire others, as well.



On finding ways to help oneself get through: in the passage about the people quarantined in the stadium, it was mentioned that they do nothing all day. I found myself thinking, &quot;Why doesn&#039;t somebody start a choir? Or get them all to write a story together?&quot; The answer, of course, is despair. And I&#039;m in my comfy sofa reading a book with grand thoughts of what could be done. How can I know what I what would do were I in the same predicament? Then, I wondered, &quot;How the did the Katrina evacuees occupy themselves when they were in the stadium?&quot; Funny how different bits of the story bring my mind directly to details of different pestilences.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Potter, he is somewhat angelic. His being seems to inspire others, as well.</p>
<p>On finding ways to help oneself get through: in the passage about the people quarantined in the stadium, it was mentioned that they do nothing all day. I found myself thinking, &#8220;Why doesn&#8217;t somebody start a choir? Or get them all to write a story together?&#8221; The answer, of course, is despair. And I&#8217;m in my comfy sofa reading a book with grand thoughts of what could be done. How can I know what I what would do were I in the same predicament? Then, I wondered, &#8220;How the did the Katrina evacuees occupy themselves when they were in the stadium?&#8221; Funny how different bits of the story bring my mind directly to details of different pestilences&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s obvious, and it&#039;s a novel written at a different time, but the lack of any substantial female characters is stunning. Was this purposeful? Is he describing a male approach to the world? He doesn&#039;t suggest it anywhere, at all, but would he have said that things would play out differently with a balance of female power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s obvious, and it&#8217;s a novel written at a different time, but the lack of any substantial female characters is stunning. Was this purposeful? Is he describing a male approach to the world? He doesn&#8217;t suggest it anywhere, at all, but would he have said that things would play out differently with a balance of female power?</p>
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